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dieseldragon · 24 July 2010, 04:23 AM

I put in a low offer for this and won it, but as stated in title, the BBQ is lit

I have done lots of research.. please tell me it looks good, I am sure its correct case reference and I think the dial looks ok..

dieseldragon · 24 July 2010, 04:25 AM

Sorry, forgot link...

http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...#ht_3009wt_911

BASSETHOUNDS · 24 July 2010, 04:49 AM

Looks Ok .

dieseldragon · 24 July 2010, 06:34 AM

Many Thanks! Too cold up your end for the BBQ?

BASSETHOUNDS · 24 July 2010, 06:46 AM

Bit windy and overcast today ... guess it will be OK again tomorrow . Where are you at the Costa del sol ? I used to live there from 2000 till 2004

dieseldragon · 24 July 2010, 07:18 AM

I live in Coin, 36km's inland from Marbella. It is as hot as h**l and right now at 11.15pm its 28 degrees on the patio and pool is a nice refreshing 31 degrees, things could be so much worse!!

Nicko · 24 July 2010, 07:19 AM

If it is indeed a 100% original Ranger and not a franken then you got one hell of a deal. Have you received it yet?

dieseldragon · 24 July 2010, 07:34 AM

Not even paid for it yet, but I have got a good feeling. There are a lot of duds around, but this seems to tick all the boxes.

BASSETHOUNDS · 24 July 2010, 08:13 AM

Just be careful , I do not think it is a "Ranger" it should be written on the dial : This seems however an authentic Tudor . Before you pay .. send a PM to Stan ( Tudorman ) or maybe John ( Springer) if they do not chime in by tomorrow .

I know Coin . I use to live in Marbella ( La Heredia on the Ronda road ) and later just above Nerja in the mountains .

Nicko · 24 July 2010, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BASSETHOUNDS

Just be careful , I do not think it is a "Ranger" it should be written on the dial : This seems however an authentic Tudor . Before you pay .. send a PM to Stan ( Tudorman ) or maybe John ( Springer) if they do not chime in by tomorrow .

I know Coin . I use to live in Marbella ( La Heredia on the Ronda road ) and later just above Nerja in the mountains .

X2

dieseldragon · 3 August 2010, 02:18 AM

Well, that watch has arrived, maybe I am being paranoid, but I have had Tudors of this vintage before and this one does not feel quite right.

The dial does not look original, the markers and numbers are flat and just look like they have been printed on the dial, no evidence of the old tritium, hands look old and aged.

This is the original link for ebay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...#ht_3009wt_911

These are fotos that I have taken.

harry in montreal · 3 August 2010, 02:45 AM

the caseback engraving looks light. the model number is centered. the back of the lugs dont show evidence of there ever being endlinks attached. sorry but i would not be happy either. Harry

dieseldragon · 3 August 2010, 03:39 AM

Yes caseback and lack of lug marks really made me think as well.

dieseldragon · 3 August 2010, 03:42 AM

on my other Rolex/Tudor the model/serial engravings are aways a bit off centre. I also would expect to see "registered design"

harry in montreal · 3 August 2010, 07:02 AM

i know that some 9050s may be legit, but i think that unless its in your hand with a loupe, you are taking a chance. you may as well just go to a casino with that kind of gamble. its just not worth it.

frankly, look at the dial. its so clean. 35 year old watches are usually well-worn. the seller knew this and likely this is why he sold it.

harry

tudorman8276 · 3 August 2010, 03:15 PM

...das FAULKER case!!

...NOTICE the centered serial number AND centered model number-consistent with fakes.

...NOTICE the lack of STAINLESS STEEL above the serial number.

...file a claim IMMEDIATELY to get a refund.

...sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

...also sorry for not being around much the past week. I have been busy working on bands and a watch. Mailed the watch and band out today, but have a family reunion this weekend nd will most likely not be around again for a few more days...mercy sakes.

BASSETHOUNDS · 3 August 2010, 07:41 PM

Dieseldragon !! Did you not send a PM to Stan ? .. See what happens ! Hope you can sort this out .

dieseldragon · 3 August 2010, 10:42 PM

I did, but didn't get a reply for a few days, but no harm done, its already on its way back. From the pics on the listing He wouldnt have been able to see the numbers etc.

The important thing is that I have learned a lesson and BIG THANKS to everyone here.

BASSETHOUNDS · 3 August 2010, 10:43 PM

Ok , at least that is good news . You paid via PayPal ?

dieseldragon · 3 August 2010, 11:23 PM

Yes, I paid by PayPal, but I sent the seller a private email first. He agreed a full refund and the PayPal cogs are turning.

harry in montreal · 3 August 2010, 11:30 PM

Good that you can reverse it. buying on ebay can be fun. but buying such a prolific fake through the mail is a big risk. harry

janice&fred · 4 August 2010, 03:35 PM

hi ian and fellow members,

tudor rangers can be very tricky to identify and authenticate. we do have a genuine example in janice's collection. ours is not for sale, however if anyone needs good pics of it for comparison purposes to a ranger you are considering, feel free to email us at janice_fredn@yahoo.com

fred

24 July 2010, 04:23 AM	#1
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	BBQ, beer and a Tudor Ranger I put in a low offer for this and won it, but as stated in title, the BBQ is lit I have done lots of research.. please tell me it looks good, I am sure its correct case reference and I think the dial looks ok.. __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

24 July 2010, 04:25 AM	#2
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	Sorry, forgot link... http://cgi.ebay.es/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...#ht_3009wt_911 __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

24 July 2010, 06:34 AM	#4
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	Many Thanks! Too cold up your end for the BBQ? __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

24 July 2010, 07:18 AM	#6
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	I live in Coin, 36km's inland from Marbella. It is as hot as hl and right now at 11.15pm its 28 degrees on the patio and pool is a nice refreshing 31 degrees, things could be so much worse!! __________________ Rolex** GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

24 July 2010, 07:34 AM	#8
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	Not even paid for it yet, but I have got a good feeling. There are a lot of duds around, but this seems to tick all the boxes. __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

24 July 2010, 04:49 AM	#3
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Looks Ok .

24 July 2010, 06:46 AM	#5
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Bit windy and overcast today ... guess it will be OK again tomorrow . Where are you at the Costa del sol ? I used to live there from 2000 till 2004

24 July 2010, 07:19 AM	#7
Nicko Banned Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Not here anymore Posts: 4,787	If it is indeed a 100% original Ranger and not a franken then you got one hell of a deal. Have you received it yet?

24 July 2010, 08:13 AM	#9
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Just be careful , I do not think it is a "Ranger" it should be written on the dial : This seems however an authentic Tudor . Before you pay .. send a PM to Stan ( Tudorman ) or maybe John ( Springer) if they do not chime in by tomorrow . I know Coin . I use to live in Marbella ( La Heredia on the Ronda road ) and later just above Nerja in the mountains .

3 August 2010, 02:18 AM	#11
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	Well, that watch has arrived, maybe I am being paranoid, but I have had Tudors of this vintage before and this one does not feel quite right. The dial does not look original, the markers and numbers are flat and just look like they have been printed on the dial, no evidence of the old tritium, hands look old and aged. This is the original link for ebay. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...#ht_3009wt_911 These are fotos that I have taken. __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

3 August 2010, 02:45 AM	#12
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	the caseback engraving looks light. the model number is centered. the back of the lugs dont show evidence of there ever being endlinks attached. sorry but i would not be happy either. Harry

3 August 2010, 03:39 AM	#13
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	Yes caseback and lack of lug marks really made me think as well. __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

3 August 2010, 03:42 AM	#14
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	on my other Rolex/Tudor the model/serial engravings are aways a bit off centre. I also would expect to see "registered design" __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

3 August 2010, 07:02 AM	#15
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	i know that some 9050s may be legit, but i think that unless its in your hand with a loupe, you are taking a chance. you may as well just go to a casino with that kind of gamble. its just not worth it. frankly, look at the dial. its so clean. 35 year old watches are usually well-worn. the seller knew this and likely this is why he sold it. harry

3 August 2010, 03:15 PM	#16
tudorman8276 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: STAN Location: KY-USA Watch: Rolex Prez Posts: 12,583	...oh...oh...RETURN the watch IMMEDIATELY... ...das FAULKER case!! ...NOTICE the centered serial number AND centered model number-consistent with fakes. ...NOTICE the lack of STAINLESS STEEL above the serial number. ...file a claim IMMEDIATELY to get a refund. ...sorry to be the bearer of bad news. ...also sorry for not being around much the past week. I have been busy working on bands and a watch. Mailed the watch and band out today, but have a family reunion this weekend nd will most likely not be around again for a few more days...mercy sakes.

3 August 2010, 07:41 PM	#17
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Dieseldragon !! Did you not send a PM to Stan ? .. See what happens ! Hope you can sort this out .

3 August 2010, 10:42 PM	#18
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	I did, but didn't get a reply for a few days, but no harm done, its already on its way back. From the pics on the listing He wouldnt have been able to see the numbers etc. The important thing is that I have learned a lesson and BIG THANKS to everyone here. __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

3 August 2010, 10:43 PM	#19
BASSETHOUNDS Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Tristan Location: GIRONA , SPAIN Watch: 116520/660/710/334 Posts: 7,147	Ok , at least that is good news . You paid via PayPal ?

3 August 2010, 11:23 PM	#20
dieseldragon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Real Name: Ian Location: Spain Watch: Ω & ♛ Posts: 1,321	Yes, I paid by PayPal, but I sent the seller a private email first. He agreed a full refund and the PayPal cogs are turning. __________________ Rolex GMT, Zenith Chronomaster Sport, Zenith Pilot type 20 40mm, IWC mkXVI, Tudor BB58, Glashütte Original SeaQ 39. 5

3 August 2010, 11:30 PM	#21
harry in montreal "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Montreal Watch: The Habs pick 1st! Posts: 3,589	Good that you can reverse it. buying on ebay can be fun. but buying such a prolific fake through the mail is a big risk. harry

4 August 2010, 03:35 PM	#22
janice&fred Banned Join Date: Jul 2010 Real Name: janice Location: St.Petersburg Fl Watch: all of them! Posts: 673	tudor ranger info hi ian and fellow members, tudor rangers can be very tricky to identify and authenticate. we do have a genuine example in janice's collection. ours is not for sale, however if anyone needs good pics of it for comparison purposes to a ranger you are considering, feel free to email us at janice_fredn@yahoo.com fred

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