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Update: I'm 90% sure it is the "Off" that cause the spots on my watch. I couldn't find any info on what DEET does to sapphire crystals, though. HOWEVER, I got home and started cleaning with a small jewelry brush that I have. I seemed to help but was taking to long, so I grabbed a soft tooth brush and went to town with just a little bit of liquid hand soap. Most of the spotting is gone or at least reduced, so at least it is not the crystal itself that is damaged. I think the rest will come off with repeated cleaning and wearing.
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Never heard of such a thing! Sapphire crystal is one of the hardest substances around. Something else must be at work here.
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Where & when did you buy it!
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I had a similar experience once (this one is true). Every morning, my watch had something on it, small drops of something sticky and sometimes hard. It took cleaning with a toothrbush to get rid of it, but happened DAILY for a a week. One day, I noticed my wife getting ready for work; she uses hair spray and BINGO, that stuff goes EVERYWHERE! I put my watch @ another place that evening...problem solved!
We all have a tendency to look after the WORST possible scenario, I also did. Most times, this are just simple things. Check your environment, any sprays closeby??! |
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I bought it new from an AD a few weeks ago.
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[QUOTE=cbrenthus;201576]I bought it new from an AD a few weeks ago.
Pitting is when there are indentation in the crystal not laying on top. Golf ball has dimpling.
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Well, apparently the paper towel didn't work. I have a little jewelry brush very similar to a toothbrush that I'll try later, when I get home.
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Well, I just saw it specifically says on the warnings not to spray "Off" near watch crystals. However, when I searched the net it seems as though this only applies to plastic crystals.
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Wow! That's a new one on me. I've both acryllic and saphire in saltwater a lot over the years and never had a problem.
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If you're still not sure about what it is, don't try any solvents or chemicals to remove those spots.
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Well, don't forget about the "Off". Apparently, it contains DEET which is known to damage watch crystals. BUT all the research I'm showing is that it only affects plastic / acrylic crystals. So I'm still at a loss.
I'm going to try a soft brush, if that doesn't work I'll take it back to the AD :( |
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Take it back to your AD or send it to RSC it's under warranty, and let us know how that turns out.
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But would it still be covered if it is indeed the DEET or something else I did?
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I've heard of regular glass being eaten away, but not just by salt. Various minerals that are present in ground water (for example) have the tendency of "eating away" at glass. This phenomenon is very evident if you have ever washed your car with non-filtered ground water and just left it to dry. The spots on the windshield are actually a combination of surface precipitate and corrosion damage. I don't know what, if any, chemical would cause sapphire to become damaged. Sapphire, although a 9/10 on the Moh hardness scale, is in fact a chemical reaction of 2 elements and hardness often has little to do with corrosion resistance (which is a chemical process). Some chemical compounds are just more susceptible to certain chemicals. Perfect example, gold is resistant to nitric acid while steel is not (gold being softer of the 2). So if you want to turn your 18k/ss bracelet into just 18k, find some nitric acid.
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Update: I'm 90% sure it is the "Off" that cause the spots on my watch. I couldn't find any info on what DEET does to sapphire crystals, though. HOWEVER, I got home and started cleaning with a small jewelry brush that I have. I seemed to help but was taking to long, so I grabbed a soft tooth brush and went to town with just a little bit of liquid hand soap. Most of the spotting is gone or at least reduced, so at least it is not the crystal itself that is damaged. I think the rest will come off with repeated cleaning and wearing.
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I've used cleaner car polish and it helped some on regular glass (never on sapphire crystal however). Flitz polish may work too, but I don't know if it isn't to potent and could cause other damage (like the coloring on the bezel to come off).
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You said you bought the watch only two weeks ago new. I'd take it back to the AD and let them deal with it. Speaking from my own experiences with my SD bracelet and my watch was 2 months old to the day I took it in.
I would advise you however not to let on that you know/knew anything about DEET being a factor with the pitting of the crystal. Let them come up with their own conclusions when you tell them about your activities etc etc. If the RSC figures out it's the DEET, then they should have included a "care-label" with the watch when you bought it which they don't. You're not a watch expert so how the heck do they expect you to avoid DEET products. Maybe if Rolex fixes enough of these crystals they'll get the idea and start to warn customer's on how to care for the watch and what household chemicals it should not be exposed to. Mosquito repellent (like OFF) is a commonly used applicant for skin protection, you'd think Rolex would at least warn it's customer's about the hazards of the stuff to a saphire crystal. Quit fooling around with the crystal and take it back. You paid enough dough for it! |
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