Purchasing rolex parts

[jackson]

This is a question from my neighbour. I'm helping him out as he cannot speak english.

He wants to know if he could walk into any rolex dealer and just purchase parts from them. specifically, the balck submariner dial. Also, what is the cost for them.

thanks.

[GerardoG]

No. Rolex is very strict on that.

[Solo118]

Sadly to say, He might have to go to "the bay"

[mike]

Originally Posted by jackson

This is a question from my neighbour. I'm helping him out as he cannot speak english.

He wants to know if he could walk into any rolex dealer and just purchase parts from them. specifically, the balck submariner dial. Also, what is the cost for them.

thanks.

No. Rolex tightly controlls parts. Normally geniune Rolex parts are sold on an exchange basis during service in the U.S. In other parts of the world it seems some have been able to get their old parts back during service.
I have been able to receive some parts back through my watchmaker that has a parts account, but not a dial and hands.
Cost depends on the reference. For example a submariner is about $240 USD from Rolex at service.

[jackson]

I see thanks. We wants also wants to know if the dial could fit onto his swiss made replica. He just sold off a few subs (and is still currently selling them on ebay and via other means in my country) as his business took a bad hit. I'm not trying to invite flame threads.thanks.

[nko51]

Rolex parts are strictly controlled, they even make an AD, send in the defective part, then after they receive it and confrm, they send the new part out.

[Solo118]

Originally Posted by jackson

I see thanks. We wants also wants to know if the dial could fit onto his swiss made replica. He just sold off a few subs (and is still currently selling them on ebay and via other means in my country) as his business took a bad hit. I'm not trying to invite flame threads.thanks.

I would in no way want to flame on anyone, But I hope he wouldnt be installing a genuine dial and trying to sell it as an authentic.

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Solo118

I would in no way want to flame on anyone, But I hope he wouldnt be installing a genuine dial and trying to sell it as an authentic.

My thoughts exactly. That would be blasphemous!!

[sevykor]

I think the reason Rolex keeps a tight hold on parts is for the very reason mentioned above - to prevent fakes that look genuine. I hate when I need a part I can't obtain, but love that they refuse to give that same part to anyone else too. Better for all of us in the end.

[jackson]

Originally Posted by Solo118

I would in no way want to flame on anyone, But I hope he wouldnt be installing a genuine dial and trying to sell it as an authentic.

Thanks. He is an honest soul. doing that, from my my knowledge of him for the past 8 years, the watch will be for his own use.thanks.

[montecristo]

Whats the point of installing a genuine dial on a fake watch?

[daunwaun]

trying to figure you out jackson...every thread i read from your posting has someway to do with fakes, or watches that "could be" fakes...hope your not a replica dealer trying to get information...

anyone else back me up on this

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by daunwaun

trying to figure you out jackson...every thread i read from your posting has someway to do with fakes, or watches that "could be" fakes...hope your not a replica dealer trying to get information...

anyone else back me up on this

Well, Jackson's got around 11 posts and you've got just 13.....so not too sure whose side to take.

In all fairness to Jackson, at least he's not going around throwing down the gauntlet at every other member on TRF.

JJ

[ohlins]

at this moment jj has 27501 posts.......and on whose side is he on......:P

Originally Posted by daunwaun

trying to figure you out jackson...every thread i read from your posting has someway to do with fakes, or watches that "could be" fakes...hope your not a replica dealer trying to get information...

anyone else back me up on this

I will admit that after seeing the thread on his "near eBay" purchase, and then seeing this one on parts shortly after, I did wonder if there was something else going on.

[jackson]

Originally Posted by daunwaun

trying to figure you out jackson...every thread i read from your posting has someway to do with fakes, or watches that "could be" fakes...hope your not a replica dealer trying to get information...

anyone else back me up on this

Give me a call at on my mobile 8282 2190. Have a coffee with me in my company. I'm based singapore and I live in orchard road, beside tomlinson road. If you have been to singapore, you would know what the cost of a rolex means to me.

If you like, I may offer you some real deals on "swiss replicas" oops, did I mention no flaming?

Peace and God bless

[jackson]

Think about this, if I am a replica dealer collecting information I would change another name and start posting. Would I be as stupid to use my same username and post these questions.

Moderator: pls lcok this thread before it gets out of hand.

thanks

[pcarson]

Oh no, let's not lock this thread! Daunwaun's point is ot a bad one, it's just that this might not be the place for it. Jackson does present some contradictions; one minute he's buying a watch for his Dad's birthday (three weeks ago) but wants to get a second-hand one and is interested in authentication. Next thing, money is no object. Next thing he's apparently stung on eBay trying strike another bargain on an unfeasibly cheap and obviously fake watch, again for his Dad, and knowing that we're all here to help. Then he is not "constrained by budget" and can buy any watch he likes, and is telling us he lives in the nice part of Singapore. His next-door neighbour, who is also presumably well-to-do is into fakes!

I'll give this to Daunwaun; he does nothing more than give voice to some valid observations about inconsistency and thoughts I'm sure many of us have had. Sometimes these are best kept to one's self. Can I make a suggestion? Jackson sounds young and he's probably naiive, and this is a watch forum. If he is a replica dealer, he's a bad one, getting himself done on a fake you could spot on a dark night.

From what I've seen we're certainly not here to help people build Frankenwatches, or deal replicas or anything of the sort. As far as Jakcon himself is concerned, it's very difficult to judge motivation from actions. If anyone thinks Jackson's not on the level, just don't respond to his posts. Otherwise, let's give him the benefit of the doubt, since we all probably have interesting inconsistencies!

This is a rich environment and I think we need to be careful not to homogenise it too much by deciding who are the "in" people and who are the "out". Jackson will declare in time, as will we all.

[daunwaun]

look, if you want to talk about money and where you live and your surname and all that b.s. by all means be my guest. Im not looking to pick a fight, or say your something your not, but the bottom line is you contradict everything you say. please dont talk about money, i think we all may have a few dollars as this is an expensive hobby.

I do not know the "replica" or fake market and dont really want to. Nor do I LOOK ON EBAY TO BUY A WATCH FOR THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS!!!

but hey...who am i to say anything? I'll let the "experts" here pick you apart!!

D

[Blown Wide Open]

This is turning into an interestering thread. I hope JJ is on my side, that I can tell you.

PAtrick

[JJ Irani]

Originally Posted by Blown Wide Open

This is turning into an interestering thread. I hope JJ is on my side, that I can tell you.

PAtrick

Well, dw has made a few valid points. I don't see why we should be even discussing availability of Rolex parts - just a pipe dream.

I've seen the stash of neatly laid out Rolex parts in huge Plan Cabinets at my AD-cum-RSC here in Auckland. It's truly an amazing inventory - each and every part, even the tiniest of ones - having their own individual blister pack with the Rolex logo on it.

Every part is properly arranged as per the watchmaker's instant requirement and all the flat plan chests are duly marked.

There's no way on earth would any of those parts ever leave the AD for cash to some outsider. Those parts are strictly for the use of the Rolex watchmaker and his service or repair work to the numerous Rolex watches that come in for either servicing or repair.

JJ

[pcarson]

Originally Posted by Blown Wide Open

This is turning into an interestering thread. I hope JJ is on my side, that I can tell you.

PAtrick

It's a fabulous thread, hats off to Jackson for kicking us off! A little diversion away from things horological and into things psychological is always good so long as it's kept friendly. As I say, DW has been brave enough to say something a few have been thinking, and Jackson has countered with another response that's out-of-register with his previous posts. Please don't lock this down, it's just getting really interesting.

[pcarson]

PS ...and JJ, you are a skilled diplomat and a true gentleman, and I mean that sincerely.

[jackson]

Thanks for the clarification.

I'm here to ask questions. Not to pick fight, or to invite flames. This has been a good place which I learn about rolex their parts and its dealership, which I have no knowloedge of prior to these. I admit that I'm a newbie to this hobby, bu these are my genuine concerns. My threads do speak of contradictions and I seem to take after a lousy replica watch dealer trying to fish out info, I have to apologise for that.

As different threads, I'm quite surprised why would members go to the details to looking through different threads that I have posted and to draw some parallelism to to fake watch dealer. If my actions speak of that. I have to apologise again.

At the same time, I'm not familar with the online ebay environment, and no one would reject a cheap deal - like what I have mentioned before on my experience with my clients and rolex watches.

Prior to this forum, I collect montblanc pens. I also collect bmw dealer version minatures and the real car. the thing about me is that I get tired of thing very qucik and is pretty fickle minded. I encountered the same problems when I have some members in my local BMW forum trying to pick faults in my questions. I can remember that at that time, I wanted a 330ci convertible, but I'm worried as I travel a lot to Malaysia and a convertible is too attention seeking. Later, again, I wanted to know how could I change the whole transmission to a manual version (Singapore dealers do not bring in manual bmw e46, they only do so on a special indent basis). Not knowingly, I invited flames from some younger members that laughed at me for trying to "replicate" an m3.

I do not know of rolex watches, but montblanc pens sold on ebay are really authentic (most) and they are a real deal, except that the warranty is not stamped by a montblanc AD, so these might be parallel import or gray market sets. In my country, there are't many varieties. Even if there were, montblanc cost a bomb. For example, the 100th anniversary starwalker diamond ballpoint cost SGD$730 at the boutique with no discount. On ebay, I chanced upon this deal where each similar pen cost only USD$200 shipped to my residence. I bought a total of 10 pcs from the seller and they were all authentic.(all verified at montblanc boutique) Some of them I gave to my friends, others, I resold at slightly higher prices to others.

I do not know about other people, when we are engaged in a hobby, the spirit and excitement of buying and then selling (when tired of it) makes it even more interesting. Why, because, we get to meet fellow collectors like us. I do make some money of of this, but this is not my livelihood and the other collector/user gets a real deal. For me in my humble opinion, if I begin a hobby in rolex watches, the same happens. Incidentally, after looking at the ebay for the past few days (before my green LV fiasco), I realised that Singaporean prices for rolexes are much cheaper than in US and other countries.

Just to clarify, as of current situation, I'm looking for for a total of 3 watches.

1. regular sub or a green LV (but I guess not, after the ebay fiasco) for my dad.

2. Either a regular black sub or a gmt master for my manger whom has been with me for sometime.

3. A SD/SUB/gmt master for myself. After all of the excellent feedbacks and suggestions from fellow forumers, I think I will go for a sub. I wanted to get a daytona straight. The reason for me not doing so is that I find it really hard to read the date on the chronograph and I have no use for the rest of them. I like the simple and utilitarain looks of the sub w\date, but it does not have the 24 hrs hand like the gmt master (I travel a lot). For now, I will most likely get a sub, and after being tired of it, will sell it for a daytona.

Peace

[padi56]

Originally Posted by jackson

3. A SD/SUB/gmt master for myself. After all of the excellent feedbacks and suggestions from fellow forumers, I think I will go for a sub. I wanted to get a daytona straight. The reason for me not doing so is that I find it really hard to read the date on the chronograph and I have no use for the rest of them. I like the simple and utilitarain looks of the sub w\date, but it does not have the 24 hrs hand like the gmt master (I travel a lot). For now, I will most likely get a sub, and after being tired of it, will sell it for a daytona.

Peace

Well the Daytona date is very hard to read,because of the main factor, it don't have a date complication in the first place, well genuine Rolex ones don't.

[ohlins]

hehe......cant find that small date on the dial....really