Rolex Prices

[thewatchguy93]

Hi all,

I have just been looking through the Rolex brochure as you do

I got to the Daytona section and could not believe what I saw...

There is a Rolex Daytona on croco strap ref. 116599 RBR down at £59,470.- It has got round cut diamonds on the bezel and pave diamond dial.

I look at the watch next to it; Daytona 116599 TBR on croco with sqaure cut diamonds which appear to have no gaps between and it puts the price up by a WHOPPING 21K!! Retail on the watch is £80,440.- ouch!! Why should a different diamond cut put the price up by £20K?



If anybody can explain to me why them diamonds are worth so much more please doo!!! I understand its a harder cut to do but £20K? Sorry if I have blabbed on but that shocked me


Dino

[bondtoys]

diamonds are sold by weight. The square diamonds (precisely they are taper-shaped...) will have a significant higher weight than the round ones. Plus a channel setting is far more expensive than a traditional setting with drilled holes ;)

[thewatchguy93]

Originally Posted by bondtoys.de

diamonds are sold by weight. The square diamonds will have a significant higher weight than the round ones. Plus a channel setting is far more expensive than a traditional setting with drilled holes ;)

Thanks for the info, I thought the same but 20K? huh?!!

[bondtoys]

.... if you ask your jeweller about the price for these kind of diamonds, you will see a HUGE delta between this price and Rolex's retail prices - no matter if these are round diamonds or taper-shaped ones.

But one could safely say, that the extra diamond weight plus the channel setting justifies a 30% premium.

[kkwn98]

Originally Posted by bondtoys.de

.... if you ask your jeweller about the price for these kind of diamonds, you will see a HUGE delta between this price and Rolex's retail prices - no matter if these are round diamonds or taper-shaped ones.

But one could safely say, that the extra diamond weight plus the channel setting justifies a 30% premium.

Agree entirely.

But to the OP - unless you are in the market for the more expensive of the two and are ready to buy, why does this even matter?

[thewatchguy93]

Originally Posted by kkwn98

Agree entirely.

But to the OP - unless you are in the market for the more expensive of the two and are ready to buy, why does this even matter?

I am interested in a new rolex purchase, I have the book to check prices. I stubbled upon this and was curious so I asked you guys on here. Thats what this forum is for right?

[rolexertion]

Were you planning on buying one?

[Welshwatchman]

Originally Posted by kkwn98

But to the OP - unless you are in the market for the more expensive of the two and are ready to buy, why does this even matter?

It matters because he's intrigued about the huge difference. It's not for you or I to determine what anyone else is allowed to think about.

[thewatchguy93]

Originally Posted by rolexertion

Were you planning on buying one?

I'm just weighing up my options

[Speed]

What sort of quality are these watch diamonds anyway? I recall the Three Cs of engagement rings, but I would have to think these little buggers are too small for all that business...

[thewatchguy93]

Originally Posted by Speed

What sort of quality are these watch diamonds anyway? I recall the Three Cs of engagement rings, but I would have to think these little buggers are too small for all that business...

Not so sure, I would imagine them to be a good carat weight. Maybe not per stone but overall in the watch my guess is about 2-3 carats? I know Rolex use the highest quality of Diamonds sapphires and Rubys as it states in one of the books. Please do forgive me if i'm wrong about the carat weight!!

[raskal83]

Usually, round diamonds command the highest prices based on just shape. However, since the cushion cut (square) diamonds are more bottom heavy in proportion to their table (the top part you would see) than a round, the overall weight of diamonds has to be more substantial in that bezel. Also, if what you said about Rolex only using top grade diamonds, it is harder to find excellent cut and polished cushion cut diamonds in comparison to a round so that might factor in as well.

[The GMT Master]

Are you, by any chance, confusing the 116599 BR with the 116599 RB? I've just been checking the price lists myself (don't have the catalogue to hand, but have the full price list from this

Here are the prices I could find:

116599BR BLACK P14 PAVE, BLACK ARABIC £59,470

116599TB BLACK P14 PAVE BLACK ENAM ARAB £80,440

116599RB BURGUNDY P8 PAVE, BLACK ROMAN £80,440

I think the price you quoted was for a different model, although without the master catalogue in front of me, I can't give a proper description

[thewatchguy93]

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

Are you, by any chance, confusing the 116599 BR with the 116599 RB? I've just been checking the price lists myself (don't have the catalogue to hand, but have the full price list from this

Here are the prices I could find:

116599BR BLACK P14 PAVE, BLACK ARABIC £59,470

116599TB BLACK P14 PAVE BLACK ENAM ARAB £80,440
116599RB BURGUNDY P8 PAVE, BLACK ROMAN £80,440

I think the price you quoted was for a different model, although without the master catalogue in front of me, I can't give a proper description

I quoted the prices from the lastest catalogue from Cotrills manchester Rolex boutique. I have just double checked the prices and they are correct.

116599RBR £59,470.-
116599 TBR £80,440.-

I'm 100% the price list I'm looking at is correct with it being the latest book. Cheers mate

[The GMT Master]

Originally Posted by Dingoo93

I quoted the prices from the lastest catalogue from Cotrills manchester Rolex boutique. I have just double checked the prices and they are correct.

116599RBR £59,470.-
116599 TBR £80,440.-

I don't know what you mean by mensioning the burgundy one mate? I was just compairing the two in bold above

I think the burgundy is just referring to the strap colour I'm scratching my head as much as you, really, can't work out why two near identical watches would have a £21k difference. I need to have a look at the master catalogue tomorrow, try and work out exactly what all of the different letters after the 116599 mean

[thewatchguy93]

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

I think the burgundy is just referring to the strap colour I'm scratching my head as much as you, really, can't work out why two near identical watches would have a £21k difference. I need to have a look at the master catalogue tomorrow, try and work out exactly what all of the different letters after the 116599 mean

hahaa Me either!! I'm just stuck! Can't work out why there is such a huge price difference!

Thanks for your help Chris



Dino

[Andrie]

Originally Posted by Speed

What sort of quality are these watch diamonds anyway? I recall the Three Cs of engagement rings, but I would have to think these little buggers are too small for all that business...

Four Cs. Carat, Cut, Clarity and Color.

[J. Alan]

Originally Posted by Dingoo93

Not so sure, I would imagine them to be a good carat weight. Maybe not per stone but overall in the watch my guess is about 2-3 carats? I know Rolex use the highest quality of Diamonds sapphires and Rubys as it states in one of the books. Please do forgive me if i'm wrong about the carat weight!!

No question that Rolex hand picked diamonds are of the highest quality. The wife's Rolex diamond bezel on her Lady President blows all the other watches she has with diamonds on them out of the water. The Rolex bezel has a real dazzel and pop to it that her other diamond clad watches she owns can't match.

J. Alan

[The GMT Master]

I did some research, and the difference between the two is that the more expensive one manages to pack an extra 1.25Ct of diamonds into the bezel. Still, a massive price difference!

[thewatchguy93]

Originally Posted by The GMT Master

I did some research, and the difference between the two is that the more expensive one manages to pack an extra 1.25Ct of diamonds into the bezel. Still, a massive price difference!

Thank you for getting back to me Chris!! I appreciate that!

1.25ct.. wow, thats not really alot for the money is it?!!

Thats a real shock, you could by a 1.25ct solitaire diamond ring VVS 1 Diamonds top quality for around £3,000.00 Rolex are charging £20,000.00 more for princess cut stones, which make up an extra 1.25 overall! Gheeeze


Thanks for the help mate


Dino

[seduction]

Which reminds me, whats the CHEAPEST country to buy your Rolex from? I'm guessing its USA?

[thewatchguy93]

The US and England are pretty close these days, I'd personally think the UK would be the cheapest

P.S.- I may be wrong!


Dino

[seduction]

Originally Posted by Dingoo93

The US and England are pretty close these days, I'd personally think the UK would be the cheapest

P.S.- I may be wrong!


Dino

its NOT singapore. Bloody hell, monstrous prices there. UK VAT is at 20% so I'm pretty sure UK prices are more than USA. What about Switzerland?

[secretagentbloke]

I went through duty free in Geneva Airport a while back, and it was more expensive there than on the high street in the UK! Just shows how great the pound is doing against the Swiss Franc :-(