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meckert · 21 June 2011, 09:01 AM

I just purchased my first Rolex.

TT Sub black face. It was pre-owned from an extremely reputable source. I just noticed for the first time a line on each of the lugs. It is on the left side of the center gold area of the lugs. Please find the attached picture.

It's almost as if on the left of the lugs, there is a dull area. Does anyone have any insight as to what this could be?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

TimeToGo · 21 June 2011, 09:17 AM

It is hard to tell from the picture what you are referring to.

But if it is a line, scratch, it is possible the bracelet was put on on the front side of the lugs and it was scratched while sliding the pins into place...

britincali · 21 June 2011, 09:21 AM

I'd be more concerned with the amount of material removed from the right side lug....

meckert · 21 June 2011, 09:21 AM

I'll see if I can explain the pic. Look at the gold part of the lug. On the left edge, there is an area running North and South that looks like dull gold. The rest of the gold part of the lug is nice and shiny. The right side of the lug is nice and shiny and crisp, all the way to the edge.

What's weird is that it is exactly the same on both lugs. Any idea?

meckert · 21 June 2011, 09:22 AM

Brit, can you clarify what you mean? I don't understand.

meckert · 21 June 2011, 09:24 AM

Sorry, I'm using the term "lug" incorrectly. I mean the bracelet where it meets the case between the lugs.

TimeToGo · 21 June 2011, 09:24 AM

I wonder if the stainless steel part on both sides of the end link is lose causing it to rub. If you look at the pic, the SS part is sitting lower than the gold. You may need to remove the end link on that end of the watch and check it out...

britincali · 21 June 2011, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by meckert

Brit, can you clarify what you mean? I don't understand.

Could be the pic but it looks like the watch has been heavily polished.

meckert · 21 June 2011, 09:28 AM

You know I just realized that the wear on the links (opposite one another) at each edge would happen by running your finger over those links while twisting the bezel. I wonder if that is the cause as done by the previous owner.

STEELINOX · 21 June 2011, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TimeToGo

It is hard to tell from the picture what you are referring to.

But if it is a line, scratch, it is possible the bracelet was put on on the front side of the lugs and it was scratched while sliding the pins into place...

Thats what my guess would be.

Its also the serial no side so it culd be somebody dida quick check and put the pin in...

Some thoughtless person, wrecklessly pushed the pins from the top of the lug decks, there's prolly a matching set on the other side...

pawnshopkiller · 21 June 2011, 09:52 AM

He is talking about how someone did a terrible job of refinishing and ran the brush finish up onto the center link on the end piece. This comes from not using the correct tape when refinishing. I hope it is not to bad but it has worn on the crispness of that endlinks center link. Look guys you will see. The left side is the worse. Tell who ever you bought that from that their watch refinisher is decreasing the value of there stock by doing things like this.

pawnshopkiller · 21 June 2011, 09:54 AM

I bet the rest of the bracelet looks the same way with the brush running up over the polished center links.

STEELINOX · 21 June 2011, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by pawnshopkiller

I bet the rest of the bracelet looks the same way with the brush running up over the polished center links.

Oh, I see, yeah, that too, it wasnt masked correctly...

The Joker · 21 June 2011, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by britincali

I'd be more concerned with the amount of material removed from the right side lug....

This is the only problem I see, unless it's an optical illusion.

Any other marks is probably superficial

pawnshopkiller · 21 June 2011, 10:01 AM

I get my tape from jules borel and my Watchmaker who is a tech at my local AD says it is the same tape Rolex sends them. It's not cheap if you get all the sizes but it is worth it. I don't even want to think about the old tape I used before I found this stuff. Worth it's weight.

toph · 21 June 2011, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pawnshopkiller

He is talking about how someone did a terrible job of refinishing and ran the brush finish up onto the center link on the end piece. .

exactly right.

pawnshopkiller · 21 June 2011, 10:10 AM

We are looking for you all you watch over polishers out there without the right tape and skills just polishing the hell out of our beloved helpless Rolex watches. We will get you, you just wait. here is a tip if you have a scratch or something that is bothering you on a watch sand it first instead of just taking it to the buffer until the scratch is gone. You will maintain more of the cases shape if you sand it with 1000 grit before you polish it. And for those of you who are thinking 1000 grit? sand paper? on a Rolex? just know that most of these people just put your case up to a buffer loaded with tripoli polish and just buff away till the watch is shinny with no regard of the lug shape or lines of the case.

meckert · 21 June 2011, 10:47 AM

I think that PawnShop has the issue licked. What makes me mad is that the source I bought it from said the watch was barely ever worn. Why would it need such heavy polishing then? Arrrrgh. I will ask him.

raskal83 · 21 June 2011, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by meckert

I think that PawnShop has the issue licked. What makes me mad is that the source I bought it from said the watch was barely ever worn. Why would it need such heavy polishing then? Arrrrgh. I will ask him.

IMO the only reason you would need such heavy polishing is not he had some dents on the lugs and they just kept polishing it till you couldn't notice it anymore and at the same time just polished the entire watch.

Stengah · 21 June 2011, 11:06 AM

sad. the right lug doesn't look right to me either, unless it's just the pic.

mgsimmer · 21 June 2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Stengah

sad. the right lug doesn't look right to me either, unless it's just the pic.

I've always wondered when I see photos with asymmetrical looking lugs whether it is a photography issue, since one lug is closer to the lens, or an actual difference in lug size.

Stengah · 21 June 2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by mgsimmer

I've always wondered when I see photos with asymmetrical looking lugs whether it is a photography issue, since one lug is closer to the lens, or an actual difference in lug size.

yes I know what you mean, and you can see this photo does have the watch at an angle. but in this case I think the difference is too great to be caused by the photo. perhaps it was more careless polishing on the right side to get rid of a deep scratch or dent.

meckert · 21 June 2011, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stengah

yes I know what you mean, and you can see this photo does have the watch at an angle. but in this case I think the difference is too great to be caused by the photo. perhaps it was more careless polishing on the right side to get rid of a deep scratch or dent.

I don't think it's that bad. But I think we all definitely agree that the polish job wasn't the best. I will bring this issue up with the seller. See more straight on picture below.

dnagwhogas · 21 June 2011, 10:44 PM

It's really not that bad. I hope you got a price break or a good deal with this watch. But it's really not that bad.

Puffy · 21 June 2011, 10:57 PM

jsut overpolished

that's the first thing i ask.. "has the watch been polished"..

it's not a great job but have seen far worse...

dooder202 · 23 June 2011, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by britincali

I'd be more concerned with the amount of material removed from the right side lug....

I was thinking the same exact thing. Omg from the pic it looks half the size.

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21 June 2011, 10:57 PM	#25
Puffy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 12,485	jsut overpolished that's the first thing i ask.. "has the watch been polished".. it's not a great job but have seen far worse... __________________ Fine Quality is Long Remembered After the Pain of Spending Money is Forgotten

21 June 2011, 09:17 AM	#2
TimeToGo 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Florida Posts: 16,674	It is hard to tell from the picture what you are referring to. But if it is a line, scratch, it is possible the bracelet was put on on the front side of the lugs and it was scratched while sliding the pins into place...

21 June 2011, 09:21 AM	#4
meckert "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Atlanta Watch: es too much TV. Posts: 84	I'll see if I can explain the pic. Look at the gold part of the lug. On the left edge, there is an area running North and South that looks like dull gold. The rest of the gold part of the lug is nice and shiny. The right side of the lug is nice and shiny and crisp, all the way to the edge. What's weird is that it is exactly the same on both lugs. Any idea?

21 June 2011, 09:22 AM	#5
meckert "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Atlanta Watch: es too much TV. Posts: 84	Brit, can you clarify what you mean? I don't understand.

21 June 2011, 09:24 AM	#6
meckert "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Atlanta Watch: es too much TV. Posts: 84	Sorry, I'm using the term "lug" incorrectly. I mean the bracelet where it meets the case between the lugs.

21 June 2011, 09:28 AM	#9
meckert "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Atlanta Watch: es too much TV. Posts: 84	You know I just realized that the wear on the links (opposite one another) at each edge would happen by running your finger over those links while twisting the bezel. I wonder if that is the cause as done by the previous owner.

21 June 2011, 09:52 AM	#11
pawnshopkiller Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Roscoe Location: florida Watch: 16618 Posts: 646	He is talking about how someone did a terrible job of refinishing and ran the brush finish up onto the center link on the end piece. This comes from not using the correct tape when refinishing. I hope it is not to bad but it has worn on the crispness of that endlinks center link. Look guys you will see. The left side is the worse. Tell who ever you bought that from that their watch refinisher is decreasing the value of there stock by doing things like this.

21 June 2011, 09:54 AM	#12
pawnshopkiller Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Roscoe Location: florida Watch: 16618 Posts: 646	I bet the rest of the bracelet looks the same way with the brush running up over the polished center links.

21 June 2011, 10:01 AM	#15
pawnshopkiller Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Roscoe Location: florida Watch: 16618 Posts: 646	I get my tape from jules borel and my Watchmaker who is a tech at my local AD says it is the same tape Rolex sends them. It's not cheap if you get all the sizes but it is worth it. I don't even want to think about the old tape I used before I found this stuff. Worth it's weight.

21 June 2011, 10:10 AM	#17
pawnshopkiller Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Roscoe Location: florida Watch: 16618 Posts: 646	We are looking for you all you watch over polishers out there without the right tape and skills just polishing the hell out of our beloved helpless Rolex watches. We will get you, you just wait. here is a tip if you have a scratch or something that is bothering you on a watch sand it first instead of just taking it to the buffer until the scratch is gone. You will maintain more of the cases shape if you sand it with 1000 grit before you polish it. And for those of you who are thinking 1000 grit? sand paper? on a Rolex? just know that most of these people just put your case up to a buffer loaded with tripoli polish and just buff away till the watch is shinny with no regard of the lug shape or lines of the case.

21 June 2011, 10:47 AM	#18
meckert "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Real Name: Mike Location: Atlanta Watch: es too much TV. Posts: 84	I think that PawnShop has the issue licked. What makes me mad is that the source I bought it from said the watch was barely ever worn. Why would it need such heavy polishing then? Arrrrgh. I will ask him.

21 June 2011, 11:06 AM	#20
Stengah "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: California Watch: 16610 Posts: 259	sad. the right lug doesn't look right to me either, unless it's just the pic.

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