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sm1970 · 24 November 2011, 03:55 PM

Hello all,

Could someone help me please..
I recently bought a Submariner watch for my hubby and i wanted some help identifying its authenticity.
The watch has the following..

[*]Hologran back sticker with the model number 16233.[*]On the inside of the watch face rim it has the number engraved F872143 and ROLEX repeated after it.[*]It has the Rolex crown hologram directly above the 6 o'cklock on the glass.
[*]When i had the band opened there is no serial number between the lugs but i have read that in the case of Oysterquartz models, [*]the Case Reference Number is located on the back side of the case lugs and my end lug does have embossed a small rolex crown followed by CL 72200 then another rolex crown.
[*]Also, it has the black o ring on the wind up.

I hope this is enough information for everyone and i hope someone can help.

Thank you all so much
sm1970

SkyKing31 · 24 November 2011, 04:02 PM

Ok .... You are not going to like this but .... The numbers 16233 are the reference numbers for a two tone datejust and not a submariner .... You would not be able to see the etched ceown on the crystal very well with the naked eye .... Sounds to me like you should go to a rolex dealer and have this watch checked .... Where did you buy this watch? Can you locate the person who sold it to you? .... I have a bad feeling about this one

MonBK · 24 November 2011, 04:05 PM

It's a fake.

kareemthedream33 · 24 November 2011, 04:05 PM

No question that if everything on that watch is as you say it is then you have a very poor fake.

keschete · 24 November 2011, 04:14 PM

Pics required! I know you are posting all of this, but we need pics of everything.

I would never buy any Rolex unless it was from an AD or a Trusted seller on this forum!

Too many fakes abound!!!

MonBK · 24 November 2011, 04:31 PM

In this case, no need for pictures.

xjeeunitx · 24 November 2011, 04:35 PM

Should move this to watchout section...

sm1970 · 24 November 2011, 05:14 PM

Thank you for all the responses..a bit disappointed to hear but i will deal with the dealer that sold it to me..
Cheers

swatty · 24 November 2011, 05:37 PM

Where did you buy it?

bayerische · 24 November 2011, 05:46 PM

Definitely a fake.

Sorry.

rajurama · 24 November 2011, 06:32 PM

Hate it when someone is taken for a ride!

mrbill2mrbill2 · 24 November 2011, 07:16 PM

Fake!

Freelance · 24 November 2011, 07:27 PM

One take away from this is-- If you can see the etched coronet in the crystal with the naked eye it is a fake.

I glanced over at a guy wearing a Daytona in a dimly lit bar once. The etching was visible from an arms length away. My first thought was, fake...

Rolex Junky · 24 November 2011, 08:21 PM

Well OP took the news of his watch being a fake very lightly. Also note the acurate watch terminology when describing the watch. I often wonder how many counterfeiters use this forum for research purposes and to test their fugazzies.

kkwn98 · 24 November 2011, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freelance

One take away from this is-- If you can see the etched coronet in the crystal with the naked eye it is a fake.

I glanced over at a guy wearing a Daytona in a dimly lit bar once. The etching was visible from an arms length away. My first thought was, fake...

I can see the etched Rolex crown on the crystals of my Rolexes unaided, i.e. with the naked eye. I can assure you they are not fakes.

krava · 24 November 2011, 09:42 PM

That sounds like I swiss replica that I bought back in 2004 or so. Paid $1000 for it and knew it was a fake when I bought it. it had 16233 on the hologram. When I got into trouble in 2005 when I got raided by the cops, I told them that that was a fake watch. They took it and they brought it back and they said it was a good fake. I ended up getting a loan for it at a pawn shop for $1000 after they screwed me over on my other real jewelry they got from me. But the hologram one really gave that fake away, it looks really nice though I had to admit but never felt comfortable about wearing it since I knew it was fake.

padi56 · 24 November 2011, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krava

That sounds like I swiss replica that I bought back in 2004 or so. Paid $1000 for it and knew it was a fake when I bought it. it had 16233 on the hologram. When I got into trouble in 2005 when I got raided by the cops, I told them that that was a fake watch. They took it and they brought it back and they said it was a good fake. I ended up getting a loan for it at a pawn shop for $1000 after they screwed me over on my other real jewelry they got from me. But the hologram one really gave that fake away, it looks really nice though I had to admit but never felt comfortable about wearing it since I knew it was fake.

There is no such thing as a good fake, a fake anything is a fake period and anyone paying $1000 for a known fake must be sixpence short of a shilling in my book.

MonBK · 24 November 2011, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by padi56

There is no such thing as a good fake, a fake anything is a fake period and anyone paying $1000 for a known fake must be sixpence short of a shilling in my book.

I think this one is missing the whole shilling.

padi56 · 25 November 2011, 04:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

I think this one is missing the whole shilling.

You could be right.

mastermixer · 25 November 2011, 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonBK

I think this one is missing the whole shilling.

I think we can "safely" say this guy knows a thing or two about faking

24 November 2011, 03:55 PM	#1
sm1970 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: australia Posts: 2	Did i buy a genuine rolex?? Hello all, Could someone help me please.. I recently bought a Submariner watch for my hubby and i wanted some help identifying its authenticity. The watch has the following.. []Hologran back sticker with the model number 16233.[]On the inside of the watch face rim it has the number engraved F872143 and ROLEX repeated after it.[]It has the Rolex crown hologram directly above the 6 o'cklock on the glass. []When i had the band opened there is no serial number between the lugs but i have read that in the case of Oysterquartz models, []the Case Reference Number is located on the back side of the case lugs and my end lug does have embossed a small rolex crown followed by CL 72200 then another rolex crown. []Also, it has the black o ring on the wind up. I hope this is enough information for everyone and i hope someone can help. Thank you all so much sm1970

24 November 2011, 04:14 PM	#5
keschete "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Real Name: Kaya Location: Louisiana Watch: 116500 Posts: 3,575	Pics required! I know you are posting all of this, but we need pics of everything. I would never buy any Rolex unless it was from an AD or a Trusted seller on this forum! Too many fakes abound!!! __________________ GMT II BLNR, Submariner, Submariner Serti, Datejust, Daytona C, TT Yacht Master, Hulk Submariner, Pepsi GMT II

24 November 2011, 05:46 PM	#10
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Definitely a fake. Sorry. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

24 November 2011, 06:32 PM	#11
rajurama "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Rick Location: Wakanda Watch: amacallit Posts: 2,053	Hate it when someone is taken for a ride! __________________ रोलेक्स

24 November 2011, 07:16 PM	#12
mrbill2mrbill2 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: Mr. Bill Location: South Florida Watch: 16610 Posts: 6,148	Fake! __________________ Card Carrying Member of the Global Association of the Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons - ID # 13

24 November 2011, 04:02 PM	#2
SkyKing31 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Manalapan Florida Watch: Tridor Masterpiece Posts: 2,819	Ok .... You are not going to like this but .... The numbers 16233 are the reference numbers for a two tone datejust and not a submariner .... You would not be able to see the etched ceown on the crystal very well with the naked eye .... Sounds to me like you should go to a rolex dealer and have this watch checked .... Where did you buy this watch? Can you locate the person who sold it to you? .... I have a bad feeling about this one

24 November 2011, 04:05 PM	#3
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	It's a fake.

24 November 2011, 04:05 PM	#4
kareemthedream33 "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Canada Watch: Explorer Posts: 1,748	No question that if everything on that watch is as you say it is then you have a very poor fake.

24 November 2011, 04:31 PM	#6
MonBK Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Kingstown Posts: 58,279	In this case, no need for pictures.

24 November 2011, 04:35 PM	#7
xjeeunitx 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 5,430	Should move this to watchout section...

24 November 2011, 05:14 PM	#8
sm1970 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: australia Posts: 2	Thank you for all the responses..a bit disappointed to hear but i will deal with the dealer that sold it to me.. Cheers

24 November 2011, 05:37 PM	#9
swatty 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,409	Where did you buy it?

24 November 2011, 07:27 PM	#13
Freelance "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA Watch: 1675 Posts: 171	One take away from this is-- If you can see the etched coronet in the crystal with the naked eye it is a fake. I glanced over at a guy wearing a Daytona in a dimly lit bar once. The etching was visible from an arms length away. My first thought was, fake...

24 November 2011, 08:21 PM	#14
Rolex Junky Banned Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Lorenzo Location: Netherlands Watch: 116710LN & 116201 Posts: 849	Well OP took the news of his watch being a fake very lightly. Also note the acurate watch terminology when describing the watch. I often wonder how many counterfeiters use this forum for research purposes and to test their fugazzies.

24 November 2011, 09:42 PM	#16
krava Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: shreveport, la Posts: 47	fake one had one like it before That sounds like I swiss replica that I bought back in 2004 or so. Paid $1000 for it and knew it was a fake when I bought it. it had 16233 on the hologram. When I got into trouble in 2005 when I got raided by the cops, I told them that that was a fake watch. They took it and they brought it back and they said it was a good fake. I ended up getting a loan for it at a pawn shop for $1000 after they screwed me over on my other real jewelry they got from me. But the hologram one really gave that fake away, it looks really nice though I had to admit but never felt comfortable about wearing it since I knew it was fake.

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