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jshepard · 30 July 2012, 02:33 PM

I'm really starting to like the sub date however the cyclops is a real turn off for me, I've seen a few photos without a cyclops over the date, does that require a new crystal without a cyclops or can the cyclops be removed?

U5512 · 30 July 2012, 02:37 PM

Cyclops is glued on and can be removed. Follow the removal direction in the link below:

http://watchmakingblog.com/2008/04/23/cyclops-removal/

malarky_hk · 30 July 2012, 02:44 PM

There's a youtube video that shows you how. Just do a quick search. It looks relatively easy but obviously some risks invovled.

jshepard · 30 July 2012, 02:52 PM

sweet! thanks! by the way, what happens when you send in a watch to RSC with the cyclops taken off? do they return the watch to its original look with the cyclops or do they say the watch has been altered and return it to you unserviced? also i'm assuming doing this voids the warranty you get with rolex assuming you buy brand new?

Darlinboy · 30 July 2012, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jshepard

sweet! thanks! by the way, what happens when you send in a watch to RSC with the cyclops taken off? do they return the watch to its original look with the cyclops or do they say the watch has been altered and return it to you unserviced? also i'm assuming doing this voids the warranty you get with rolex assuming you buy brand new?

RSC will not work on it unless you let them "fix" it by replacing the crystal.

jshepard · 31 July 2012, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlinboy

RSC will not work on it unless you let them "fix" it by replacing the crystal.

That's what I was afraid of... Thanks! Do they always have to "fix" what is "broken"? I saw a preowned vintage sub from the 60s a couple of days ago, it had great patina except the hands were brand new which was weird... The seller said that apparently RSC replaced the original hands with new ones during a regular servicing.

roadcarver · 31 July 2012, 12:16 AM

Why not just get a Sea-Dweller? 16600 reference, granted that the dial diameter is smaller compared to the 16610 (slightly).

mjclark32 · 31 July 2012, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlinboy

RSC will not work on it unless you let them "fix" it by replacing the crystal.

I thought they made an exception for the lack of cyclops

azguy · 31 July 2012, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by mjclark32

I thought they made an exception for the lack of cyclops

Good question, does anyone know for sure.....

roadcarver · 31 July 2012, 01:24 AM

Best bet is to call one of the RSC's to inquire.

Psmith · 31 July 2012, 01:32 AM

If you mean the current Sub C 116610 then don't do it. There is an antireflective treatment under the cyclops (and beneath the crystal), so you will be left with a cyclops-shaped mark on the crystal

Older Subs (16610, 16800, etc) then no problem

Or just buy a Sea-Dweller instead ...or a no-date Sub ?

AGENT4734 · 31 July 2012, 02:46 AM

Why potencially ruin a Sub.... Buy a SD instead.

hsfrank · 31 July 2012, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jshepard

That's what I was afraid of... Thanks! Do they always have to "fix" what is "broken"? .

That's the way they maintain brand integrity.

quattrogeek · 31 July 2012, 11:16 AM

I removed the cyclops on my GMT master, and it's been in to service at RSC New York. i just explained in my request for service that I wanted a crystal without a cyclops if they had to replace the crystal during the service. They put a new no-cyclops crystal in without issue.

gwalker · 31 July 2012, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlinboy

RSC will not work on it unless you let them "fix" it by replacing the crystal.

Rolex WILL services watches with removed cyclops or a SD4000 with a cyclops added. This isn't anything they are picky about. I know both of these to be fact. Both were serviced at RSC NYC. The SD even had the crystal replaced with a crystal with a cyclops. You have to make sure you tell them or it will comeback stock.

sig-x · 31 July 2012, 12:50 PM

Great info guys!

AH0RSEY · 31 July 2012, 07:10 PM

wow - I really didnt realize the cyclops was actually stuck on. I'm not sure what I thought or even whether I did think about it --- but now I'm really glad I got my wife the Airking without cyclops as I just know she would have damaged it.

30 July 2012, 02:33 PM	#1
jshepard "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: USA Watch: GMTII Posts: 1,180	Cyclops Removal I'm really starting to like the sub date however the cyclops is a real turn off for me, I've seen a few photos without a cyclops over the date, does that require a new crystal without a cyclops or can the cyclops be removed?

31 July 2012, 12:16 AM	#7
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	Why not just get a Sea-Dweller? 16600 reference, granted that the dial diameter is smaller compared to the 16610 (slightly). __________________ I'm just a cook...

31 July 2012, 01:24 AM	#10
roadcarver "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Vernon Location: C-a-n-a-d-a Watch: 16600 Posts: 5,641	Best bet is to call one of the RSC's to inquire. __________________ I'm just a cook...

31 July 2012, 01:32 AM	#11
Psmith "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Clive Location: Exoplanet Watch: spring-driven Posts: 38,856	If you mean the current Sub C 116610 then don't do it. There is an antireflective treatment under the cyclops (and beneath the crystal), so you will be left with a cyclops-shaped mark on the crystal Older Subs (16610, 16800, etc) then no problem Or just buy a Sea-Dweller instead ...or a no-date Sub ? __________________

31 July 2012, 02:46 AM	#12
AGENT4734 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Greg Location: Chandler, Arizona Watch: Polar Club Founder Posts: 434	Why potencially ruin a Sub.... Buy a SD instead. __________________ Rolex Explorer II ~Polar Dial Original Founder Rolex Sub C 116610 Rolex YM 116610 Rolex DJ TOG 116264 Rolex DJ Roman 126200

30 July 2012, 02:44 PM	#3
malarky_hk "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: ... Watch: Rolex Posts: 4,466	There's a youtube video that shows you how. Just do a quick search. It looks relatively easy but obviously some risks invovled.

30 July 2012, 02:52 PM	#4
jshepard "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: USA Watch: GMTII Posts: 1,180	sweet! thanks! by the way, what happens when you send in a watch to RSC with the cyclops taken off? do they return the watch to its original look with the cyclops or do they say the watch has been altered and return it to you unserviced? also i'm assuming doing this voids the warranty you get with rolex assuming you buy brand new?

31 July 2012, 11:16 AM	#14
quattrogeek "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Tom Location: Plattsburgh, NY Watch: 16710 GMT II Posts: 11	I removed the cyclops on my GMT master, and it's been in to service at RSC New York. i just explained in my request for service that I wanted a crystal without a cyclops if they had to replace the crystal during the service. They put a new no-cyclops crystal in without issue.

31 July 2012, 12:50 PM	#16
sig-x "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Michigan Posts: 344	Great info guys!

31 July 2012, 07:10 PM	#17
AH0RSEY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Real Name: Steve Location: Harrogate Watch: OUT !!!! Posts: 829	wow - I really didnt realize the cyclops was actually stuck on. I'm not sure what I thought or even whether I did think about it --- but now I'm really glad I got my wife the Airking without cyclops as I just know she would have damaged it.

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