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Old 15 July 2019, 11:53 AM   #1
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Daigou arrested for smuggling $400k of pateks

Chinese Whispers: A Daigou Arrested for Smuggling $400,000 Patek Philippe Watch, and More

Daigou is like the grey market...in China

https://jingdaily.com/daigou-patek-philippe/


Title should say Daigou not Daug Our..... maybe someone can change it for me
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Old 15 July 2019, 12:06 PM   #2
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Guy can afford a 5078 and he can’t pay the customs duty and is so dumb he brings the empty box with him. Incredible.
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Old 15 July 2019, 12:15 PM   #3
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There’s been a crack down on Daigao for awhile, surprised that this is the first time this is Patek lol. Usually it’s cosmetics
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Old 15 July 2019, 12:18 PM   #4
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Its funny that people who try to avoid the tax when they return to their country bring the box & papers. That's like rule #1 what not to do
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Old 15 July 2019, 12:38 PM   #5
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daigou
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Old 15 July 2019, 01:20 PM   #6
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代购 in its literal form is not illegal. It denotes helping another buy something on his/her behalf. It could be any purchase in or outside the country.

It is only illegal if it is above a certain threshold and not declared to the custom.
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Old 15 July 2019, 05:06 PM   #7
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Its funny that people who try to avoid the tax when they return to their country bring the box & papers. That's like rule #1 what not to do
A lot of folks on this site are baffled at exactly why modern watches are separated from their box and paperwork and automatically assume it's because the watch has been stolen. Thanks for helping them understand that it was, more likely, smuggled.
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Old 15 July 2019, 08:06 PM   #8
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A lot of folks on this site are baffled at exactly why modern watches are separated from their box and paperwork and automatically assume it's because the watch has been stolen. Thanks for helping them understand that it was, more likely, smuggled.


Because that’s ok too.
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Old 15 July 2019, 08:14 PM   #9
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Its funny that people who try to avoid the tax when they return to their country bring the box & papers. That's like rule #1 what not to do
Depending on the piece and the percentage of import costs "saved" smugglers may actually gain little or even lose net net by leaving the papers behind. Dropping the box for whatever reason is no big deal as that can be replaced at little cost.
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Old 15 July 2019, 10:03 PM   #10
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Depending on the piece and the percentage of import costs "saved" smugglers may actually gain little or even lose net net by leaving the papers behind. Dropping the box for whatever reason is no big deal as that can be replaced at little cost.
get the PW mailed isn t that complicated.
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Was too cheap to Fedex the box and paper. Now he's looking at a hefty fine and possible prison sentence.
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Old 15 July 2019, 10:44 PM   #12
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get the PW mailed isn t that complicated.


Yeah that was my first thought. Use the postal package route for the bulky part and a simple DHL for the papers.


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Old 15 July 2019, 11:29 PM   #13
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Yeah that was my first thought. Use the postal package route for the bulky part and a simple DHL for the papers.


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They can still open up items for checking and likely hold box and papers at customs until you give more info on the purchase and then will tax accordingly.
In some countries such as China, they'll potentially confiscate box on grounds wood may be endangered such as Rosewood, Zitan and hold.for all the purchase paperwork.
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Old 15 July 2019, 11:36 PM   #14
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They can still open up items for checking and likely hold box and papers at customs until you give more info on the purchase and then will tax accordingly.


Yes but that would be different than spending years in prison and/or big ¥ fine.


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Old 15 July 2019, 11:38 PM   #15
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They can still open up items for checking and likely hold box and papers at customs until you give more info on the purchase and then will tax accordingly.
In some countries such as China, they'll potentially confiscate box on grounds wood may be endangered such as Rosewood, Zitan and hold.for all the purchase paperwork.
No watch means paperwork is useless for them. It's normally when they're combined that they can start questioning why you have both on you and attempting to avoid tax.

They normally won't open mail where it just contains paper.
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Old 15 July 2019, 11:45 PM   #16
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Not much logical about it of course, they're taking s chance and hoping don't get random search.
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Old 16 July 2019, 01:01 AM   #17
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5078 is so boring looking I wouldn't pay $100k for it let alone $400k.
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Old 16 July 2019, 01:03 AM   #18
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That’s only like 4 5717’s
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Old 16 July 2019, 04:57 PM   #19
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If he ships out the box, he will now be just fine. Can’t believe a guy who can afford $400k but can’t figure out how to properly prepare.
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