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1,039 | 69.83% |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) but timekeeping is still fine |
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61 | 4.10% |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) and timekeeping is off (>5 s/d) |
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388 | 26.08% |
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#3001 |
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I don’t believe it ……
Rolex must know they have a problem with 32xx movements. Why did they launch a new model with a problematic movement ? What are they thinking ?
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I suspect that fewer than 1,000 of these per year are produced, and that only a tiny fraction of those will be worn daily. In other words, for practical purposes, this isn't a problem.
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That is tant amount to showing that the company does not care at all about its customers and is in denial about producing what was once upon a time a quality product.
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If no solution currently exists, should Rolex simply stop with its planned releases? |
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![]() On the balance of probabilities, this is a safe(no pun intended) one for Rolex. Though I imagine that anyone who has one with movement problems will get the very best treatment by the mothership. |
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But it’s unlikely the problem will be noticed. If they’re kept as collectors items, they’ll never be worn. If they were purchased to dive with, they’ll likely be reset each time and it’ll take a long time for the issue to be noticed.
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Does anyone own a 114060 and 124270?
I find the winding on 114060 when it is almost wound down "buttery" smooth, but it is "rough" when winding the 124270. Is it a known thing with Rolex's caliber 3230? |
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32xx movement problem poll and data thread
Yes, my 31xx wind "butterfly" smooth and the 32xx a bit less. "Rougher" winding has been reported frequently and is not limited to the 3230.
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My contribution, if it helps. I have a GMT meteorite from nov 2020. Since this january it is my daily. I only left it in the safe when i went on vacation which was 2 times for 2 weeks this year. So after 11 months and 2 full winds after vacations it runs at aprox -1.5 spd. In the beginning of the year it was aprox -1 spd but i always keep it on so it may depend on how it rests on my wrist at night. I’m happy with it’s performance. I don’t know what the amplitude is but looking at it’s timeloss i say it is running quite solid.
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- - That is one of my favourite watches regardless of brand.
The dial really does make it special. - - All sensible contributions are very welcome here. Quote:
The worry is that it can get worse for no clear reason. At that point it is worth asking your AD's watchmaker to check the amplitude. You could even do that now and keep the results in case you see a problem occur further down the line. You would then know for sure if something is going on that is not too savoury by comparuing results.
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I have the timegrapher app, i can see if i can find some headphones which i can use to measure the amplitude. I didn’t try it for a long time. |
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32xx movement problem poll and data thread
This app is tricky to use (suppression of external noise, microphone/crown contact, different watch positions) and delivers quite unreliable data compared to a timegrapher.
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I know that noise can very much influence the result but that can be avoided. How accurate it is when noise supressed i don’t know.
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I have the app. It's not a real timegrapher of course but I've found it gets in the same ballpark results as a real one; particularly in +_ spd. I wouldn't use it as a diagnostic or regulating tool of course. I get the best noise suppression when I tape the mic to the back of the watch then fold a towel over it. No doubt a contact mic would get much better results than the earphone mic.
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How do you know that? Have you compared the app results with the timegrapher data in 2 consecutive measurements with the same watch? I'm just curious.
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Part of the trick is to let it have a long timing run (a minute or more) to average the data. The real timeographer locks up much faster of course. And the app compares well with real world results. When I first got my 5 digit it was about +12spd. Got the app, figured out how to get good results and the app indicated about +10spd, and low amplitude. After service it's about +2 spd. The app indicates about +1spd but we know that on the wrist is a bit different. So it's close for the basics but of course I wouldn't use it for real diagnostic work. Apologies for wandering off topic in this thread. |
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Yes and No, because it depends on the settings if you can use a professional timegrapher. No comment on "real world" ![]() ![]() Nothing wrong at all with such interesting contribution, we had it already before in this thread. ![]() |
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I don’t understand why this is so hard for Rolex to rectify though. It’s a pretty pedestrian movement, which is its bread and butter.
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They have not found the root of the problem because as you said they don’t care.
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I have a 2022 Air-King, my first Rolex, and the winding action is rough and „sandy,“ worse than even my 500 euro kickstarter watch. It‘s keeping good time, -1 spd, but so far I‘m not that impressed. At least I won‘t lose money if it turns out to be a lemon.
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Rolex has never been too bothered about what customers (as a group) want It is a pretty pedestrian movement, which is what Rolex has usually done. Solid, reliable movements (with a few exceptions and innovations over the years)
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