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View Poll Results: Does your 32xx movement seem to be 100% ok? | |||
Yes, no issues |
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1,039 | 69.83% |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) but timekeeping is still fine |
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61 | 4.10% |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) and timekeeping is off (>5 s/d) |
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388 | 26.08% |
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#3121 |
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so no solution to this day ? so what to do with the 32xx movements? avoid or ?
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#3122 |
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Buy a Tudor it’s the only reliable Rolex at the moment
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#3123 | |
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JayBlack: If there‘s a model you like and you can get it at retail, go ahead. I just got a 2022 Air-King. I figure if it develops the problem during the warranty period I can send it in for repair and then sell it. If it runs well for 5 years I probably won‘t have to worry about the issue. |
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#3125 |
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#3127 |
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For anyone looking for long term after warranty fix, my SD43 was running -3sec/day out of the box in august 2019. I broke at -12 and sent it off August 2020. I’m at the two year mark now and still running better than anything I’ve ever owned. I don’t have any fancy time grapher details but it’s running perfect. I wear the watch 7 days a week and in harsh environments ( I work at Sea). Incidentally, since the repair there is ZERO rotor noise. It’s quieter than my 3135 watch. The noise was quite audible when I got the watch.
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#3128 |
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So far only slight changes (reversing wheel clicks, rotor ballbearing/engraving, mainspring barrel finishing) and nothing to do with the fix.
3230 come in very very infrequently compared to others with this issue. And of course, no communication from HQ to anyone else, just follow warranty repair protocol. |
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#3129 | |
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#3131 |
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Mine’s at two years since warranty service now. I’m hoping whatever was done has permanently solved the issue. So far so good.
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#3133 |
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#3134 | |
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Bas have you received any 2022 models for 32XX problems repair? Just want to get an indication if the issue is still on going Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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#3135 | |
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But the other 4 I did were all close to 5 years old, 3 DJ41 and a SD43. Worst thing is that not all have the wear on the pivot, many don't even show signs of internal wear & tear yet won't reach 180 degrees of amplitude fully wound... I wish I could pinpoint the issue, but I'm stumped, it just doesn't make sense why they run so badly and some are not affected at all. |
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#3136 | |
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I wonder if the lower numbers on the 3230 are related to the mechanical differences, or rather the much lower numbers of watches which use this caliber. Until very recently it was just the OP36/41 and the no-date Sub, right? And as of this year add the Explorer 1 to the list. Based on how rare my AD says the OP is (the watch they get the least of compared to any model) this would seem like a likely explanation for your observation. |
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#3137 | |
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So we‘re left with an old movie quote „You've got to ask yourself one question: 'Do I feel lucky?'“ |
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#3138 | |
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Plus, Rolex would never use a non-manufacture movement (Kinessi movement used by a few companies,) and it’s also sort of disposable, in that RSC doesn’t fix those movements. At service time, they simply swap them out with remanufactured movements on hand. |
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#3140 |
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This thread was a real wake-up call. I was going to get a current DJ as a gift for my father, and was considering a new OP or Explorer for myself. Going to go Grand Seiko instead for him, and perhaps Tudor for me.
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#3141 | |
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Funny, I also had a DJ 31 warranty repair last week, but not because of low amplitude but because this 2236 was running at 330+ degrees, overbanking. Adjusted the pallet fork and it was solved ![]() |
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Even if done in complete secrecy (internal, even), any chance that either could have any impact on the issue, even if indirect in appearance? Quote:
Your observation would also suggest that the worn pivot is but an indirect symptom, rather than pivot friction in any way being the cause. |
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Dial Up +2 spd 256 amp (53 degrees) 0.0 ms beat error 3 Up 0 spd 229 amp (53 degrees) 0.0 ms beat error 6 Up -1 spd 223 amp (53 degrees) 0.1 ms beat error 9 Up -1 spd 227 amp (53 degrees) 0.3 ms beat error 12 Up 0 spd 238 amp (53 degrees) 0.0 ms beat error Dial Down +2 spd 252 amp (53 degrees) 0.0 ms beat error This looks pretty reasonable (knock on wood). All amplitudes are well over 200. |
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#3146 | |
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But there's definitely more going on. The date wheel stud is also prone to wear and complete loss of lubrication in a short time. |
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#3147 | |
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Firstly, Welcome back. I reported here some months ago that whilst the date changes and exactly 6 hours later the amplitude took a big drop. I showed this after extensive monitoring on a Chronoscope. the amplitude recovered after a short period. Do you have any idea why the 6am fluctuation occurs ? The date change fluctuation at midnight is presumably as the watch has more "Work" to do moving the date wheel.
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#3148 | |
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I find that the spring is quite strong, definitely stronger than in the 3135, the lubricant giving issues is also a problem. This can definitely significantly impact amplitude at certain points. |
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Could it be that there are actually multiple independent issues that all cause the same eventual outcome? |
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#3150 |
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Yes, that seems most likely.
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