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There was massive over selling and massive paranoid from investors. Now things have stabilized and trading has resumed, and buying has begun to resume again. I said this on page like 2 of this thread. They won't go back to 4x retail but they will go back up ease of access from the boutiques do not change. |
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Care to provide any examples?
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#3186 |
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I am again curious why some on here are so passionate about prices going back up? How does that make the hobby enjoyable?
Let's face it, the hobby has been sh** the last 2 years. Why would anyone want it to go back to anything close to that? |
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Probably because they already have their "in" and don't care how hard it is for new people to get into the hobby. Values going up = their watches are worth more = they're happy if they ever have to sell. That or they're watch dealers.
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It's just one transaction and says nothing about overall trends, but I called a dealer I have done business with before and sold a 15202 Audemars today for what I thought was a very fair price. He said that business was still down significantly but activity was improving.
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Sure, full list of commonly available grey and private party listings. These are for the lowest 126710BLNR available, new or used. (Full set BNIB with partial stickers will be about 1-2k higher than these.)
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And are all these unsold or are these the sold prices? Awesome chart BTW! |
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https://www.epochconverter.com/weeks/2023 Older 2022 data at the top, newest at the bottom. They're all asking prices, no one posts sold prices (even on Moda.) I suspect one could subtract $500-1k and get pretty close. |
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We are in week 6/52 for 2023. Good data indeed.
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Well mine is still unsold and it’s been the cheapest on the market (UK) for over three months so go figure. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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#3196 |
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I'd add that last week (when I was considering picking up a 26331) when I brought in my 2019 full set batgirl to sell/trade the grey (brick and mortar in bev hills) would only offer me $15k for it. I then tried another jeweler who offered $14.5.
This was a week ago and it is one of the ones that is supposedly creeping up. Just offering my recent experience. |
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Have you verified all this data is correct then or simply taking it at face value?
Not sure where you found this, but whoever had the time to create a running list monitoring prices would appear to have a vested interest (i.e. a dealer) and thus be biased. Just saying ![]() |
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I’m sorry to come across so forward, but who in their right mind (as a consumer) has the time to track these prices so closely? Many of your posts on TRF consistently talk about your terrible experience at ADs, no availability, etc., etc. If you are truly a consumer that wants a collection of a few watches why would you make this spreadsheet, and why didn’t you buy when you started seeing prices tick back up? Your posts espousing the lack of availability at ADs and this list come off as suspect, and frankly, as a dealer who has a vested interest in all of this. Why care so deeply about secondary prices? Why not enjoy what you have and spend more time with family and friends? My guess is all the time you've spent running around to ADs and creating this list could have been allocated towards more productive use of your time (either leisurely with loved ones or working/making money so you can buy the watches you clearly follow so dearly). You probably would be far happier, but then again, everyone has the right to choose how they allocate their time. Regardless of my thoughts, you've created a detailed list - perhaps you'd like to make one for the 5740 too ;) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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In my area, grey prices have stabilised a bit, if you can call 2 weeks with little to no fall a stabilisation. At the same time the private listening is still dropping without any sales.
So I doubt the grey are moving many. Maybe sale is just that slow at the moment here in January, That greys choose to keep or raise their prices, which don't cost anything if you are not selling anyhow.. Sendt fra min SM-F711B med Tapatalk |
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I hope the market will rocket to the moon, I have watches to sell.
But I believe that prices will fall even more after these very minor dead cat bounces. Like many on here I trade in various markets (as an amateur) and I like predictions and then seeing what happens. I hope everything I hold goes up, including my watches, but like I said, I don't see it happening for a couple of years. I sold a few big ticket watches in 2022 because I suspected the market would crash, I'm so glad I did, I sold my Nautilus and Jumbo at the peak, if anyone is still holding them then I suspect it will take min 3+ years to reach that price again. |
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Have been monitoring MODA over the last month. Saw some price increases , and the last week or so has been the dumping season. Now, the sellers are seeing some resistance and prices have dropped a tiny bit from the peak of the pumping phase.
Over at the MODA WTB group, you will see multiple replies to wtb posts offering their watches. Not going to conclude anything. Go think for yourself. Cheers! |
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![]() As an experiment, look at this link. Does it take much effort? Instant snapshot of the Market. https://www.watchrecon.com/?query=12...31&brand=rolex As for the local ADs, it's easy to see see their empty shelves over a lunch break if I happen to visit the local brick & mortar office. Believe me, no time is taken away from "friends & family." As for buying grey, that's probably the end game. But after spending $30k on Rolex watches last year I'm biding my time. (Note: That 30k is nowhere near enough to reach "the list" for a SS sports model in this town. If it had been marked up diamonds then the safe would have opened.) |
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