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View Poll Results: Does your 32xx movement seem to be 100% ok? | |||
Yes, no issues |
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1,045 | 69.90% |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) but timekeeping is still fine |
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62 | 4.15% |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) and timekeeping is off (>5 s/d) |
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388 | 25.95% |
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Another sound opinion. Cheers |
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I am most definitely thinning my 32xx head count. I’m not ready to smoke them outright. I am, maybe naively, optimistic that a fix will come. |
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If problem becomes well known we won’t be able to do this. |
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I mailed it to Rolex NYC this morning. Registered mail, says it will arrive on Wed 2/8. So, let's see how long this takes. I give it 2 months, so if it's back by Easter, that will be pretty good.
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So they run within spec - until they don't. I'll probably jinx myself but my DJ41 Wimbledon is 2 years this month, an it's still OK. Knock wood. |
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This conversation got me wondering- Does Rolex provide a new warranty after a warranty repair? Or is it permanently attached to the purchase date? |
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Knocking on wood does not help … jmo. |
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32xx movement problem poll and data thread
Your 32xx can run very accurately on your wrist while it already has far too low amplitudes, which is the main observable for the 32xx issue.
The test I propose would be interesting to check, for a well running caliber, the H- and V-amplitudes plus the rates. Anyhow, your choice. |
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Just because a 32xx movement equipped watch runs accurately it does NOT mean that there isn’t a problem with the movement.
It has been shown so very many times that the amplitude can drop below spec and the watch still keep good time but then after a little longer things go bad.
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#3523 |
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Thanks, now you have me all paranoid! I'll put it on the timegrapher and see what's what.
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Here are my graphs. ![]() Both 3285 calibers are within the known Rolex acceptance criteria: All amplitudes are above 200 degrees (24 hours after full winding) Average rates (after full winding) are within owner's expectation (-2,+2): GMT #1: -1.1 s/d and GMT #2: +1.4 s/d GMT #2 is better than GMT #1. |
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32xx movement problem poll and data thread
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And then I really wanted a SS ceramic Pepsi, so had to go 32xx movement there too. Went slightly preowned on grey market for this one. If I can get a brand new fresh Pepsi from an AD, I'd be happy to replace the above two with it and go down to one 32xx movement. That's how uneasy I am about it after reading all the stuff here. I also love the 12x series Submariners, but the movement issues are preventing me from getting one. And I intentionally purchased preowned Explorer IIs with the 3137, and I have no interest in replacing them with a brand new one from AD even if I got allocated one. |
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#3530 |
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My 3130 in the 14060M, 3135 in the DJ, and 3175 in a GMT all run at or near 300 amp when fully wound and all have a fresh service. None loses time. By comparison the 124040 has a better delta and is either spot on or loses time but never gains time and amp is not higher than 270 in any position but not below 230.
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#3531 |
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My 2018 DJ41 has just gone in for warranty work. Went from about +0.5 spd to about -4. Let’s see what they say.
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#3535 |
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Hi,
like I promised in a post in this forum some days ago, bellow is the data I collected from a timegrapher (I was waiting to stay at home for 3 consecutive days to collect data from my timegrapher - Weishi 1000 bought last month). The watch is a GMT master II 126710 BLNR bought brand new from AD in December 2022, after waiting for 7 months. I didnt use the watch since then (I wait to collect data before use, so the watch is unworn). After 15 min of full winding: Du -2s / 284 0.0ms DD -1s /282 0.1ms 9U 0s /241 0.1ms 3U -7s 244 0.2ms (so strange this rate at 3U just after winding the watch, I checked several times and this is the reading I got) 6U -1s 246 0.0ms 24 h: DU -1s / 260 0.2ms DD 0s 250 0.2ms 9U -1s 217 0.2ms 3U -3s 219 0.3ms 6U 0s 223 0.0ms 48 h: DU 0s 232 0.2ms DD +1s 223 0,2ms 9U -5s 193 0.1 ms 3U +4s 190 0.3ms (strange rate again at 3U, now the watch is gaining time ?! ) 6U 0s 190 0.0 ms I checked the time comparing to my cellphone at 24h and 48h, and the watch was 1s slow at 24 h, and about 1,5s at 48h. The 60hrs and 72 hrs would be reached tomorrow, but I will travel, so I will not be able to take the readings. ps - again, sorry for my English, not my natural language! I took some pictures, but dont know how to post pictures in the forum. |
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![]() Your 126710BLNR (3285 caliber) is within the known Rolex acceptance criteria: All amplitudes are above 200 degrees (24 hours after full winding). The average rate X = -2.2 s/d (after full winding) is well inside COSC (blue marked area) and a little bit outside owner's expectation (-2,+2), which is due to the low rate (-7 s/d) in 3U position. |
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#3537 |
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Thanks for the graphs saxo3.
I will measure one 48 hrs cycle again before real use of the watch. If tbe 3U and 9U rates came "better" then this I will post here. It not, I will start to use the watch and measure again in maybe 1 or 2 months. By the way, is it plausible the watch after use from brand new start to settle in (I dont know if this is the correct word in english), like an engine car after breaking in from new? |
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![]() These 126710BLNR data are very interesting. This is the first time I've noticed a different behaviour for a 32xx watch. Please repeat the test with more data points, for t = 0, 12, 24, 36, 48, 54, 60 hours. Post all data as you measure them, even if you think something is weird. |
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#3539 |
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Hi saxo3
I will repeat the test following your recomendations! Just have to find time to stay at my city/home for more then 3 consecutive days to do this, because I travel a lot. I didnt use the watch yet (not a problem, daily using my old GMT). I prefer to collect most timegrapher data from my brand new BLNR before start using it. |
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