New Rolex daytona panda 126500LN vs 116500LN

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by Idcutthat13

If one day Rolex makes an actual panda with white dial black sub dials, then what would some of you call the watches shown here? Would you not call these pandas anymore because an actual panda showed up?

Depends if Rolex themself stops recognizing it as a panda on their search engine. It’s recognized as the modern day Panda (ceramic panda) years ago so that ship has sailed. Correcting it at this point is like asking for a “Kleenex” and then some one tells you it’s a “facial tissue” and then you sneeze all over them.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by ooztumer

Beautiful. Just got mine today, i was thinking if i should get black one, but so glad it's white one.

Newer model is not anywhere near current one.. Very bulky look, nowhere close to 116500's elegance. Black 12 might look a bit better than 11, but not white.

I'm glad I didn't have to wait for newer one, won't worth additional waiting. It's way out of Daytona spirit.

[Idcutthat13]

Originally Posted by Mystro

Depends if Rolex themself stops recognizing it as a panda on their search engine. It’s recognized as the modern day Panda (ceramic panda) years ago so that ship has sailed. Correcting it at this point is like asking for a “Kleenex” and then some one tells you it’s a “facial tissue” and then you sneeze all over them.

It has always felt like wishful thinking and trying too hard to call the new white dials panda dials. It makes me cringe. But that’s my problem.
I’m not naive enough to think my comment will change anything.
So, you’re saying the nick names come from the Rolex search engine.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by Idcutthat13

It has always felt like wishful thinking and trying too hard to call the new white dials panda dials. It makes me cringe. But that’s my problem.
I’m not naive enough to think my comment will change anything.
So, you’re saying the nick names come from the Rolex search engine.

Rolex acknowledges some particular nicknames to their watches and will show the watch on their web site when using the nickname in their search engine. It’s their way of accepting this pop culture nickname to a particular watch.

[Idcutthat13]

Originally Posted by Mystro

Rolex acknowledges some particular nicknames to their watches and will show the watch on their web site when using the nickname in their search engine. It’s their way of accepting this pop culture nickname to a particular watch.

So pop culture got it wrong. Rolex accepted it. Now it’s official.

[Tridor]

I prefer the old version.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by Idcutthat13

So pop culture got it wrong. Rolex accepted it. Now it’s official.

These things happen organically. In the world of nicknames, “panda dial” is pretty good.

[rockysw]

Originally Posted by Mystro

These things happen organically. In the world of nicknames, “panda dial” is pretty good.

Agreed. This cant be the biggest porblem. I am not sure why someone would have a problem with this.

[Henrimontgomery]

Tried this baby today. I can say, after much debate and internal monologue, that the last Daytona is the best of the decade.

[geoffreyis]

Originally Posted by Henrimontgomery

Tried this baby today. I can say, after much debate and internal monologue, that the last Daytona is the best of the decade.

Stunning

[jb335]

Originally Posted by Henrimontgomery

Tried this baby today. I can say, after much debate and internal monologue, that the last Daytona is the best of the decade.

By “last” do you mean the current Daytona? 126?

Also, the more I see pics of that watch, the more I like that standard issue WG with the black dial. A poor man’s Le Mans Daytona lol


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[ratty]

Originally Posted by HMHM

Wrist shot comparison for the black dial daytona:
*126500LN picture from Hodinkee

Attachment 1357749 Attachment 1357750

I definitely prefer the new one seeing this.

[Henrimontgomery]

Originally Posted by jb335

By “last” do you mean the current Daytona? 126?

Also, the more I see pics of that watch, the more I like that standard issue WG with the black dial. A poor man’s Le Mans Daytona lol

I never liked 116xxx, the indexes reminded me of lake-paddle boats, and the flanks are much better slab-style than round style.

[928ktgold]

Originally Posted by Tanalasta

Agreed. I actually am apprehensive. The original was lovely. I don’t get the outer metal rim.


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The side view needs the fuller ceramic bezel to balance out the bigger case. Hence I’m so grateful I got WG OF 1161519 in March!

[928ktgold]

Originally Posted by Devildog

There's a degree if over simplification there.

I wore a 6239 for 13 years. Lusted after a 116520 but couldn't afford or even have the opportunity to buy.

Tried on a 116515 when i could afford to buy, loved it and bought one.

Tried on 116500s. Black and white. Lovely watch but the asymmetry just put me off. Had a real opportunity to get one via my AD before the secondary market prices were bonkers high but declined. I'd only have bought to sell on and thats not what I do.

The SS/TT/YG Oyster and the WG/RG/PT/YG OF felt like two district lines to me. Not a fan of the former. Big fan of the latter. To the point that i recently acquired my grail 116509.

Not all Daytonas are created equal to all people

Prior gen SS and PM cases do feel like 2 distinct lines. I appreciate both and am currently leaning on keeping both to be able to have the full gamut of Daytonas. The smaller asymmetrical case is a nod to the classic smaller 4 and 5 digit Daytonas.

[Marinapark]

The newer Daytona is an improvement over the older one. Thinner chapter rings and thinner case help the proportions. In expect the 116 to keep declining in price as everyone rushes for the new one.

[BraveBold]

Originally Posted by Marinapark

The newer Daytona is an improvement over the older one. Thinner chapter rings and thinner case help the proportions. In expect the 116 to keep declining in price as everyone rushes for the new one.

Unlikely, as the prior one was manufactured during legitimate (re: not self-imposed) manufacturing constraints. There will be more of the newer ones right as market softening. Total production of newer 126 will be meaningfully higher than 116 and values of 116 will hold / appreciate vs 126.

Cosmetically the outer metal ring in-person is not an improvement on either dial. The 116 will be the longer-term one to own and the 126 the also-ran.

[rolexgs]

Originally Posted by Marinapark

The newer Daytona is an improvement over the older one. Thinner chapter rings and thinner case help the proportions. In expect the 116 to keep declining in price as everyone rushes for the new one.

i didnt aware the new case is thinner, by how much?

[PenDelicate]

Originally Posted by HMHM

Hodinkee says the new one is thinner at 11.9mm. But as usual with the Dink, conveniently left out a few key elements that will paint the Daytona in a negative manner. *cough* case shape *cough*

Wrist shot comparison for the black dial daytona:
*126500LN picture from Hodinkee

Attachment 1357749 Attachment 1357750

It's astonishing how the metal ring changes the character of the bezel. The new bezel looks ... busier in a really nice way. More ... interesting. More ... intricate. The previous bezel looks a tad incomplete in comparison.

I think both models are absolute stunners.

[Marinapark]

Originally Posted by BraveBold

Unlikely, as the prior one was manufactured during legitimate (re: not self-imposed) manufacturing constraints. There will be more of the newer ones right as market softening. Total production of newer 126 will be meaningfully higher than 116 and values of 116 will hold / appreciate vs 126.

Cosmetically the outer metal ring in-person is not an improvement on either dial. The 116 will be the longer-term one to own and the 126 the also-ran.

No they wont. Just like how the 116520 was significantly lower value than 116500 despite being discontinued. The Daytona is a flex watch bought by the masses to show off, so the latest and greatest will always trump the previous versions.


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[Marinapark]

Originally Posted by rolexgs

i didnt aware the new case is thinner, by how much?

About half a millimeter thinner and about a millimeter wider in diameter. So it will wear far nicer.


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[Santiago32]

Do the gold models get that ring around the bezel as well? Or is it only ceramic.

[Pablito]

Originally Posted by Santiago32

Do the gold models get that ring around the bezel as well? Or is it only ceramic.

Oysterflex models do get the ring.

[rockysw]

Originally Posted by Marinapark

No they wont. Just like how the 116520 was significantly lower value than 116500 despite being discontinued. The Daytona is a flex watch bought by the masses to show off, so the latest and greatest will always trump the previous versions.


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I think only time will tell. But comparison with 116520 is probably not right. 116520 was produced for 16 years and whilst it was a very popular watch with waitlists, it was nothing like the hype that 116500 created (it was pretty much considered an awesome watch by everyone).

The hype generation for 126500 was limited in comparison, even though 2023 is much more hype era than 2016. And it generated mix reactions. Some people like it, some dont.

[SteveY]

Originally Posted by rockysw

I think only time will tell. But comparison with 116520 is probably not right. 116520 was produced for 16 years and whilst it was a very popular watch with waitlists, it was nothing like the hype that 116500 created (it was pretty much considered an awesome watch by everyone).

The hype generation for 126500 was limited in comparison, even though 2023 is much more hype era than 2016. And it generated mix reactions. Some people like it, some dont.

[ts3]

Originally Posted by Henrimontgomery

I never liked 116xxx, the indexes reminded me of lake-paddle boats, and the flanks are much better slab-style than round style.

The lifeboat markers are the reason I never seriously considered getting a 116500. Other than that I much prefer the old one over the new release.

[BraveBold]

Originally Posted by rockysw

I think only time will tell. But comparison with 116520 is probably not right. 116520 was produced for 16 years and whilst it was a very popular watch with waitlists, it was nothing like the hype that 116500 created (it was pretty much considered an awesome watch by everyone).

The hype generation for 126500 was limited in comparison, even though 2023 is much more hype era than 2016. And it generated mix reactions. Some people like it, some dont.

Exactly. Production numbers matter and the time frame plus the huge manufacturing constraint on half the 116500’s life means it was underproduced. Massive demand for a major changeover watch, big hype, iconic and low supply = long term lasting value.

[envuks]

Originally Posted by rockysw

I think only time will tell. But comparison with 116520 is probably not right. 116520 was produced for 16 years and whilst it was a very popular watch with waitlists, it was nothing like the hype that 116500 created (it was pretty much considered an awesome watch by everyone).

The hype generation for 126500 was limited in comparison, even though 2023 is much more hype era than 2016. And it generated mix reactions. Some people like it, some dont.

I feel like the 116500 release was the point where the hype turned into major hysteria. Especially as the demand for the brand really skyrocketed in ‘19, ‘20, ‘21, but even before that. The first ceramic Daytona is what lit the fire of the consumer consumption explosion


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[JSCP]

They both look nice! no need to worry

[boltz]

I love the new one.