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Old 21 October 2024, 01:31 AM   #391
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Old 21 October 2024, 01:41 AM   #392
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ffs quit your moaning and let people enjoy their purchase…
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Old 21 October 2024, 04:50 AM   #393
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ffs quit your moaning and let people enjoy their purchase…
Embarrassing. It’s a history book. Missing the facts defeats the purpose. I own the book myself. Should I be happy about getting a book that fails at its purpose?

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Well, while we are complaining, I don't believe the term "quality control" quite applies to literature, unless some pages fell out when you "flipped to."
I’m an editor. Fact-checking is absolutely a quality control process.
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Old 21 October 2024, 11:27 PM   #394
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Finally started flipping through the official Submariner book today and there has been a major mistake on every page I’ve flipped to. And I’m not by any means an expert like Padi or others.

It even gets basic things wrong that actual Rolex print ads got right. How did this thing pass quality control?

Perhaps I should sell this to some super fan because this book is basically useless. Not sure what the appeal is besides the Rolex imprimatur.
There are certainly some editorial errors that I've noticed, for example the correct people listed/talked about in the text and then a photo meant to be of them but incorrectly labelled with the wrong names, and of course the claim that the Oyster Perpetual was the first waterproof watch (although that is only in the label to one photo and in a schematic showing the Sub evolution, and is not stated in the text itself by the author).

Beyond that, could you please give some examples of the 'major mistakes' and factual inaccuracies that you refer to. I would appreciate this as it will help me learn. Thanks.
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Old 22 October 2024, 01:08 AM   #395
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I’ve enjoyed Nick’s cigar review/chat uploads on YouTube. Shame he seems to have stopped those now.

Perhaps this book should have been similarly light hearted in tone and maybe not aimed to be a definitive guide?

Still, with the backing of Rolex it seems it could have been better.
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Old 22 October 2024, 04:23 AM   #396
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Another review of the book here (not sure if already posted): https://perezcope.com/2024/09/30/rev...erproof-watch/
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Old 22 October 2024, 06:29 AM   #397
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I’ve enjoyed Nick’s cigar review/chat uploads on YouTube. Shame he seems to have stopped those now.

Perhaps this book should have been similarly light hearted in tone and maybe not aimed to be a definitive guide?

Still, with the backing of Rolex it seems it could have been better.
If it were like that, I would have liked it. I don't dislike Foulkes; we even share a tailor! (Of course, not that that guarantees amity; one guy I met through the watch collecting world who is also a customer of said tailor funded his lifestyle by embezzling billions out of a poor third-world country...)

When the book gets things like basic dates, which Rolex ads got right, it's really damning. Or as the Perezcope review points out, getting the whole helium escape valve wrong.
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Old 23 October 2024, 08:13 AM   #398
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Old 25 October 2024, 06:26 AM   #399
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Embarrassing. It’s a history book. Missing the facts defeats the purpose. I own the book myself. Should I be happy about getting a book that fails at its purpose?



I’m an editor. Fact-checking is absolutely a quality control process.
I stand corrected then. It just seems to me that information doesn't have a "quality" aspect to it. It's either correct, or it isn't, no grey area.

Either way, there won't be a test later, but I think I'll skip the book. The internet has alll the "facts" I need.
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Old 25 October 2024, 12:57 PM   #400
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Apparently there are tons of errors. Like watches with service dials/hands/bezels being represented as "original" and so on.
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Old 25 October 2024, 10:37 PM   #401
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Maybe the WIS should "interview" this Foulkes guy, and during "questioning" they could give him electric shocks.






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Old 25 October 2024, 10:41 PM   #402
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If it were like that, I would have liked it. I don't dislike Foulkes; we even share a tailor! (Of course, not that that guarantees amity; one guy I met through the watch collecting world who is also a customer of said tailor funded his lifestyle by embezzling billions out of a poor third-world country...)

When the book gets things like basic dates, which Rolex ads got right, it's really damning. Or as the Perezcope review points out, getting the whole helium escape valve wrong.
I’d consider a different tailor …. Carry on
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Old 26 October 2024, 12:36 AM   #403
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I canceled my order. Too much drama.
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Old 26 October 2024, 01:15 AM   #404
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There is another Rolex book just out… The Rolex Guide by Mads Urup Gjodesen, which I have just ordered.
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Old 26 October 2024, 02:44 AM   #405
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I received the Sub book a few days ago. I've not had a chance to actually look at it yet.
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Old 26 October 2024, 05:28 AM   #406
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Thinking of ordering the book. Does it go into details about say the gilt era of 5513 and different dials and serial number in details as opposed to discussions on this forums and others?
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