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https://www.ablogtowatch.com/the-def...500ln-version/
In Closing, Our Subjective Analysis Of The 2023 Steel Rolex Daytona Whereas Rolex claims to be all about the perpetual pursuit of excellence — a mission statement reflected by its unrivaled selection and quantity of remarkably high-performance movements, among other things — occasionally not even “The Crown” can escape the pressure of doing something just for the sake of doing it. With the 2016 debut of the steel Rolex Daytona 116500LN, perhaps not even Rolex knew what a challenge it would eventually be to try to improve upon that design and execution. Seven years later, the 60th anniversary of the collection has marked the time for that “something” to happen, and so Rolex was expected to face this trial head-on and somehow modify one of its finest-ever designs — the 116500LN steel Daytona. Even with all this in mind, we have to say that many of the updates to the Daytona, and especially the steel Daytona, appear to be hard-to-justify modifications that represent more of a step back than forward. The asymmetrical design, the delicate shape of the lugs, case profile, and hour markers, the monoblock and unframed ceramic bezel, the perfect overall proportions of the steel Daytona — not one of these are watch design elements that happen by chance, not at this level, anyway. And yet, all of these deliberate and calculated elements of refinement have been undone without any historical or practical justification. Totally agree with this. ![]() |
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So the masses wanted more Daytonas so when they upgraded they made all the case sizes between steel and PM the same… that’s about it… this observation may be more telling as to what is going on behind closed doors
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I think the new Daytona looks lovely.
I think the old Daytona looks lovely. It's a lovely watch. |
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wishful thinking but perhaps the stabdardized case size will allow increased production of the steel models?
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I don’t know. It seems hyper-critical to me. The author is also over-analyzing things a bit. These people have a tough job. They have to write an article with x number of words and x number of paragraphs. Net result is that you end up with word salad like this. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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Very soon this will all be forgotten. There's always some gnashing of teeth when new models come out.
In a parallel universe I'd actually be able to buy a Daytona. I'd 100% pick the new one if offered a choice. |
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But this never happens in the watch press. Virtually every make and model is generally positively biased.
So to see someone say what some of us are thinking in the press is quite surprising. The Daytona had a serious amount of unique character. From the different case shape, different lugs, asymmetry on models without palladium, the balance, the unique bezel. It’s all gone now. The new 12 Daytona is a safe bet. Very nice still, I’ve ordered a black dial, but it’s now generic even. I collect chronographs and I found so much variety in this horological niche in the 11 series Daytona. Its overall package was quite unique as far as chronographs go. Now it is far more like a typical chronograph by omega or as if they copied zenith. |
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^ this x100. This is the problem.
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Yes, it is now more Omega-like I suppose but that could just be another way of saying it is now more balanced and proportional. |
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Not sure until it is seen. I will probably get the white steel and MAY trade my current platona in for a clear case back version but unsure about that. I’m not a die hard Daytona collector and think having both gens of the Platona are not nessecary
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I've always felt the Daytona, at a real wear of 38ish on the wrist, was on the small size. As so many love this classic size and so many prefer a bigger watch, rather than mess about with the case to make the watch seem to wear bigger, I'd rather they just intro a 42mm model as well and have two, like Omega did with the PO. Not something Rolex would probably ever do tho unfortunately.
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Also was a chance to make a real Panda dial with this new version, which would have been fabulous, but instead went with this silver ring stuff, another missed opp.
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I really dig the newer model, especially that dial. I love the fact R brought back the slimmer sub dials.
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But I agree with what you're saying, the new one looks far more refined, the bezel properly integrated into the watch with a direct connection to the vintage Daytona's, was never of a fan of the 500 series Daytona's, went for the 520. |
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Really it is so close to the out going model that NO ONE not a WIS will not be able to tell the difference. I estimate everyone they offer will be sold including those offered to everybody who commented in this thread, positive or negative view.
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After seeing the side by side photos, I'm leaning towards the 116500. The newer version is nice, but it seems to have lost some of the charm of the outgoing model
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But we like what we like just like any other area...cars, shoes, food, lovers and wine. I had never desire to own the previous Submariner but couldn't wait to get my hands on the current 124060. I tried to get a 116520 but the prices kept rising beyond my tolerance years ago. I know it is loved by many but the 116500 just didn't do anything for me. The new Daytona in black on the other hand is very high on my wish list. It's just the way it is with some things. No amount of words are likely to change any of our minds and that's fine by me. Selfishly, the last thing I want is even higher demand for the new one. Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk |
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Wow that was a great piece! Could not agree more with the subjective conclusion.
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I truly don’t know, but do transitional models sometimes have a production life of 6-7 years? I kinda think of them as being short runs to use up old parts, or to be quickly revised and improved.
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With the new case, size, and bezel, the Daytona now looks like a GMT Master with pushers...I found the old case to be more charming and the smaller size attractive (even though I realize that those with big wrists may like the new version better).
We have lost differentiation, but I suspect that was really Rolex's goal anyway...more similarity between models = greater production savings. But I don't buy for a minute that this was done with any level of improvement to the consumer in mind. And I won't even go into the movement changes since those have nearly only potential downside. If I am going to buy a Daytona...it will be an old model. |
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I totally agree with the article. Wish I can afford a white dial 116500ln.
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After seeing the 2 daytona side by side in picture, and if I am given opportunity to buy one I would personally choose the new one. "Beauty is in the eye of beholder"
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I quite like it. Looks better than the previous version.
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Did you mean speechless?
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