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Old 27 February 2022, 12:38 AM   #31
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I’m going to sound like weirdo, but the DJ41. I saw the configuration I have and immediately loved it.

I’ve typically been only a sports profesional model type guy and typically only had those. The DJ41 sort of caused me to rethink what I think a Rolex should be. It doesn’t have to just be pure sports, but it can be elegant and sporty all at once. I’ve been looking more back towards sport watches recently, and am waiting on a Sub. It definitely changed course of my collection though as my last few watches were sort of the same idea where it kind of tiptoes between sports and elegant.
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Old 27 February 2022, 12:40 AM   #32
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When I bought a Royal Oak Offshore Diver, I made the mistake of breaking the 4 digit pound barrier, and once you’ve broken that mental barrier and accepted spending 5 digits, it’s a slippery slope!


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Old 27 February 2022, 12:49 AM   #33
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When I bought a Royal Oak Offshore Diver, I made the mistake of breaking the 4 digit pound barrier, and once you’ve broken that mental barrier and accepted spending 5 digits, it’s a slippery slope!


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That's a great point.

I "used" to look at full PM models and think "oof that aint for me"

Then you buy your first, and then your second, and then it just goes up from there. The amount of money I've considered spending going Grey on a 505/515 used to be soooooooooo far from anything I thought I'd ever do

Still holding on to the hope's of getting that call...............................
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Old 27 February 2022, 01:59 AM   #34
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So for me, it was a negative space experience. My only watch for years was my 16223 champagne dial. As I got older, it became harder to read. I foolishly sold it at the end of 2019, just as the Rolex craze began. Naively, I thought I could easily (!) find another Rolex. I picked up a GS spring drive Ti diver after starting to learn more about horology and movement technology. Then I picked up a Speedmaster racing chrono because of the co-axial movement. But the lack of a Rolex on my wrist continued to bug me. It seems I’m a day late and a dollar short on building a watch collection, but hope springs eternal.

Speaking of movements, my grail Rolex right now is an SD because of the 9001. YMMV

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Old 27 February 2022, 02:08 AM   #35
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My very first watch, a Timex Cavatina at age 9 that I begged and pleaded for and dutifully wound every day and wore for 10 years…that was my first start in being crazy for watches. Broke into “luxury” when I got a Cartier Santos for my college graduation from my mom that I wore for another 10 years or so and made me appreciate the beauty of all kinds of luxury watch brands. And finally my first Rolex in 2004 that got me into this craziness. But I love them all and have given me such memories!
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Old 27 February 2022, 03:00 AM   #36
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Old 27 February 2022, 03:00 AM   #37
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I’m going to sound like weirdo, but the DJ41. I saw the configuration I have and immediately loved it.

It definitely changed course of my collection though as my last few watches were sort of the same idea where it kind of tiptoes between sports and elegant.
Not a weirdo at all! Same with me and the OP. It can handle anything the sports models and look better (arguably) doing it.


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Old 27 February 2022, 03:04 AM   #38
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The piece that changed my collection would have to be my Breitling Superocean Heritage II. Before I had this piece I just used Got tier Casio’s and G-shocks because of the reliability and affordability. But after I got my Breitling I began to become interested in horology more and more and so my collection grew.
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Old 27 February 2022, 03:04 AM   #39
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Old 27 February 2022, 03:06 AM   #40
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I made the mistake of breaking the 4 digit pound barrier, and once you’ve broken that mental barrier and accepted spending 5 digits, it’s a slippery slope!

That is one of the things I have yet to do and fear. “Oh, I’ll never spend over $1k.” Blew past that. “Oh, I’ll never spend over $10k.” I’ve knocked on that 10k door, though. Not doing that in the future will be next to impossible. Saw a secondary OP Dominoes yesterday for $7.5k. Ugh...


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Old 27 February 2022, 03:31 AM   #41
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I’m going to come at this from a different angle.

I bought my sd43 unpolished and it had quite a few (only surface marks) marks on it. It made me enjoy the watch so much more as in my mind once it gets to that point it at some point will need polishing anyway. I now wear all my watches this way and it’s enlightening as to before I wasn’t by any means OCD but I was more careful. I don’t pay a single thought to it now, and no dents or dings so far for (at which point is probably when I would go for a polish).
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Old 27 February 2022, 03:36 AM   #42
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I’m going to come at this from a different angle.

I bought my sd43 unpolished and it had quite a few (only surface marks) marks on it. It made me enjoy the watch so much more as in my mind once it gets to that point it at some point will need polishing anyway. I now wear all my watches this way and it’s enlightening as to before I wasn’t by any means OCD but I was more careful. I don’t pay a single thought to it now, and no dents or dings so far for (at which point is probably when I would go for a polish).

The first scratch and then dent are the hardest. I see your point. Put a pretty bad dent in mine while packing up my grandparent’s place after they both passed around the same time.

I thought about having it repaired but decided against it. All part of the journey.


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That is one of the things I have yet to do and fear. “Oh, I’ll never spend over $1k.” Blew past that. “Oh, I’ll never spend over $10k.” I’ve knocked on that 10k door, though. Not doing that in the future will be next to impossible. Saw a secondary OP Dominoes yesterday for $7.5k. Ugh...


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Slippery slope my friend, slippery slope! Hold on tight and enjoy the ride!


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Old 27 February 2022, 07:32 PM   #44
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So true, my friend. We were so lucky. I remember being sorely tempted by a PM GMT2c that was like 16-17k but eventually ruled it out bc it was too much money. It wasn't just PM either. Passed on a 5711 in the low 20's, same reason. But, to be honest, there were deals like this all day long.

The one good thing, though, about the present crazy state of things is finally seeing PM being given the respect it deserves. I mean, when I first joined TRF, you'd see a gold incoming and read stuff like, "yeah, that's nice, but why would you spend that much on something that's gonna lose so much money?"

Different story today.

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Old 27 February 2022, 07:37 PM   #45
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Very true Vince, when I joined here I never imagined buying a PM, then under TRF's heavy influence I was persuaded to buy my first, but at a large discount ofc, and then a few more followed... looks like you went the same way once the barrier of what you want to, rather than can, afford gets broken down.
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Old 27 February 2022, 09:14 PM   #46
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I’d say this one

For a few years I’d chased various sports watches. Then I bought this and very quickly fell in love with the completely different feel and look of dress watches or at the very least watches on straps. I wore this almost for the entire summer in 2015, very odd to wear this with shorts and t shirt but I loved it.

They usually bring so much more than a steel sports watch. Interesting case shapes, lug design, dial design, applied markers, dial fonts, dual finish hands, polishing skill, complications, exhibition case backs. They are also more versatile than you think apart from with water.

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Interesting question Rob

I wasn’t a collector when I started, but I knew I wanted a good watch, and so for me, that was a Rolex diver (16600) ….those National Geographic ads

I still wouldn’t really call myself a collector, but what that first Rolex really did was it heightened my awareness for watches and for quality things in general
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Old 28 February 2022, 12:14 AM   #48
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What Piece Changed The Course of Your Collection?

Great thread! When I first started watch collecting, I was really into dress pieces. Then, I started preferring true sports pieces. Eventually, my Dad gave me a TT YM he wasn’t wearing, and it made me realize I really enjoy “dressier” sports models because of their versatility, durability, etc. Now I’m on my AD’s list for my grail — a VC Overseas.


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It was my DateJust II. Never had looked at anything other than the Professional/ Sports references, and then all of a sudden, the 41mm DJ II, got me looking at everything else.
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White 116000 (OP 36mm).

This piece is the single most comfortable watch I've ever worn and also the most beautiful. I've worn it just about every day since I bought it.

I've made a few "discoveries" with this watch.
  • First: An "entry" Rolex model doesn't mean that it has any inherent compromise. In fact, I've come to realize that owning just ONE Rolex pretty much gives you the experience of nearly the entire catalog. The Oyster case and design ethos are so pure and raw in their expression within the OP. I doubt Hans Wilsdorf himself would change anything about it. It's simple, elegant, and timeless. The dial is impeccable. A truly perfect watch.
  • Second: The modern Rolex bracelet is incredible. I have spent most of my life avoiding steel/metal bracelets because I have always found them uncomfortable on most brands. Sharp, unrefined edges, leaving marks on my skin, pulling at hairs (and I have hairy arms)... the oyster bracelet makes absolutely NO offense and feels like fine silk on the wrist. It's amazing. There's just the right amount of taper and the clasp is a feat of engineering excellence. Now that I have experienced this level of quality in bracelet and clasp, I've come to expect that quality in any watch that I spend big $$$ on... so naturally I am left with a sense of disappointment in many other brands. In some ways one could argue this has spoiled my experience in other brands, but I think it is more appropriate to say that I now have a higher sense of scrutiny.
  • Third: You can only wear one watch at a time. I have a few pieces and sometimes I struggle to pick which one I'll put on. The OP36 usually wins the battle, owing to its supreme comfort and incredible versatility. It makes me think: "How many of these do you really need?"
  • Finally: At the end of the day, it's about what YOU love and you should wear what's true to your own heart. Too often it seems people are just following the herd, or thinking about only the hottest/"investment" piece. My OP doesn't get all the glamor shots on instagram, twitter, tiktok, whatever. It's not some crazy hype piece or widely-perceived grail that everyone is trying to get. Nevertheless, I truly adore this watch and actually feel that it is a better fit for me than a sub, or a GMT. It certainly fits my smaller wrist in a better way and it also serves my needs just fine, as 100m waterproofness is all that I could need and I don't care much for the date or second time zone. This perfect, beautiful, under-the-radar masterpiece fits my lifestyle and brings me a sense of satisfaction that leaves me thinking: "maybe my grail is the watch I already own, here on my wrist." I think that sort of bond is what makes it so special.
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I’d say this one

For a few years I’d chased various sports watches. Then I bought this and very quickly fell in love with the completely different feel and look of dress watches or at the very least watches on straps. I wore this almost for the entire summer in 2015, very odd to wear this with shorts and t shirt but I loved it.

They usually bring so much more than a steel sports watch. Interesting case shapes, lug design, dial design, applied markers, dial fonts, dual finish hands, polishing skill, complications, exhibition case backs. They are also more versatile than you think apart from with water.

Great reference. I’ve come to really appreciate JLC, ALS & VC as I learn more about the Hx of Horology.
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White 116000 (OP 36mm).

This piece is the single most comfortable watch I've ever worn and also the most beautiful. I've worn it just about every day since I bought it.

I've made a few "discoveries" with this watch.
  • First: An "entry" Rolex model doesn't mean that it has any inherent compromise. In fact, I've come to realize that owning just ONE Rolex pretty much gives you the experience of nearly the entire catalog. The Oyster case and design ethos are so pure and raw in their expression within the OP. I doubt Hans Wilsdorf himself would change anything about it. It's simple, elegant, and timeless. The dial is impeccable. A truly perfect watch.
  • Second: The modern Rolex bracelet is incredible. I have spent most of my life avoiding steel/metal bracelets because I have always found them uncomfortable on most brands. Sharp, unrefined edges, leaving marks on my skin, pulling at hairs (and I have hairy arms)... the oyster bracelet makes absolutely NO offense and feels like fine silk on the wrist. It's amazing. There's just the right amount of taper and the clasp is a feat of engineering excellence. Now that I have experienced this level of quality in bracelet and clasp, I've come to expect that quality in any watch that I spend big $$$ on... so naturally I am left with a sense of disappointment in many other brands. In some ways one could argue this has spoiled my experience in other brands, but I think it is more appropriate to say that I now have a higher sense of scrutiny.
  • Third: You can only wear one watch at a time. I have a few pieces and sometimes I struggle to pick which one I'll put on. The OP36 usually wins the battle, owing to its supreme comfort and incredible versatility. It makes me think: "How many of these do you really need?"
  • Finally: At the end of the day, it's about what YOU love and you should wear what's true to your own heart. Too often it seems people are just following the herd, or thinking about only the hottest/"investment" piece. My OP doesn't get all the glamor shots on instagram, twitter, tiktok, whatever. It's not some crazy hype piece or widely-perceived grail that everyone is trying to get. Nevertheless, I truly adore this watch and actually feel that it is a better fit for me than a sub, or a GMT. It certainly fits my smaller wrist in a better way and it also serves my needs just fine, as 100m waterproofness is all that I could need and I don't care much for the date or second time zone. This perfect, beautiful, under-the-radar masterpiece fits my lifestyle and brings me a sense of satisfaction that leaves me thinking: "maybe my grail is the watch I already own, here on my wrist." I think that sort of bond is what makes it so special.
Thx for a thoughtful and sincere post. Collecting can mean so many different things to different people.
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It's the watch in my avatar. S serial 16710 Coke. Bought that for $4k in 2012 from a local dealer. So that was secondary retail price just 10 years ago. Needless to say it has gotten a little out of hand since then.

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It's the watch in my avatar. S serial 16710 Coke. Bought that for $4k in 2012 from a local dealer. So that was secondary retail price just 10 years ago. Needless to say it has gotten a little out of hand since then.

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White 116000 (OP 36mm).

This piece is the single most comfortable watch I've ever worn and also the most beautiful. I've worn it just about every day since I bought it.

I've made a few "discoveries" with this watch.
  • First: An "entry" Rolex model doesn't mean that it has any inherent compromise. In fact, I've come to realize that owning just ONE Rolex pretty much gives you the experience of nearly the entire catalog. The Oyster case and design ethos are so pure and raw in their expression within the OP. I doubt Hans Wilsdorf himself would change anything about it. It's simple, elegant, and timeless. The dial is impeccable. A truly perfect watch.
  • Second: The modern Rolex bracelet is incredible. I have spent most of my life avoiding steel/metal bracelets because I have always found them uncomfortable on most brands. Sharp, unrefined edges, leaving marks on my skin, pulling at hairs (and I have hairy arms)... the oyster bracelet makes absolutely NO offense and feels like fine silk on the wrist. It's amazing. There's just the right amount of taper and the clasp is a feat of engineering excellence. Now that I have experienced this level of quality in bracelet and clasp, I've come to expect that quality in any watch that I spend big $$$ on... so naturally I am left with a sense of disappointment in many other brands. In some ways one could argue this has spoiled my experience in other brands, but I think it is more appropriate to say that I now have a higher sense of scrutiny.
  • Third: You can only wear one watch at a time. I have a few pieces and sometimes I struggle to pick which one I'll put on. The OP36 usually wins the battle, owing to its supreme comfort and incredible versatility. It makes me think: "How many of these do you really need?"
  • Finally: At the end of the day, it's about what YOU love and you should wear what's true to your own heart. Too often it seems people are just following the herd, or thinking about only the hottest/"investment" piece. My OP doesn't get all the glamor shots on instagram, twitter, tiktok, whatever. It's not some crazy hype piece or widely-perceived grail that everyone is trying to get. Nevertheless, I truly adore this watch and actually feel that it is a better fit for me than a sub, or a GMT. It certainly fits my smaller wrist in a better way and it also serves my needs just fine, as 100m waterproofness is all that I could need and I don't care much for the date or second time zone. This perfect, beautiful, under-the-radar masterpiece fits my lifestyle and brings me a sense of satisfaction that leaves me thinking: "maybe my grail is the watch I already own, here on my wrist." I think that sort of bond is what makes it so special.
100% echo out the same sentiments I have about this reference. Quality of this brand reflects simply on the Oyster Perpetual.
The simplicity and no nonsense look balance between an aura of elegance and sportiness is what drawn me to this model.

Well written post TimeAZ!
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White 116000 (OP 36mm).

This piece is the single most comfortable watch I've ever worn and also the most beautiful. I've worn it just about every day since I bought it.

I've made a few "discoveries" with this watch.
  • First: An "entry" Rolex model doesn't mean that it has any inherent compromise. In fact, I've come to realize that owning just ONE Rolex pretty much gives you the experience of nearly the entire catalog. The Oyster case and design ethos are so pure and raw in their expression within the OP. I doubt Hans Wilsdorf himself would change anything about it. It's simple, elegant, and timeless. The dial is impeccable. A truly perfect watch.
  • Second: The modern Rolex bracelet is incredible. I have spent most of my life avoiding steel/metal bracelets because I have always found them uncomfortable on most brands. Sharp, unrefined edges, leaving marks on my skin, pulling at hairs (and I have hairy arms)... the oyster bracelet makes absolutely NO offense and feels like fine silk on the wrist. It's amazing. There's just the right amount of taper and the clasp is a feat of engineering excellence. Now that I have experienced this level of quality in bracelet and clasp, I've come to expect that quality in any watch that I spend big $$$ on... so naturally I am left with a sense of disappointment in many other brands. In some ways one could argue this has spoiled my experience in other brands, but I think it is more appropriate to say that I now have a higher sense of scrutiny.
  • Third: You can only wear one watch at a time. I have a few pieces and sometimes I struggle to pick which one I'll put on. The OP36 usually wins the battle, owing to its supreme comfort and incredible versatility. It makes me think: "How many of these do you really need?"
  • Finally: At the end of the day, it's about what YOU love and you should wear what's true to your own heart. Too often it seems people are just following the herd, or thinking about only the hottest/"investment" piece. My OP doesn't get all the glamor shots on instagram, twitter, tiktok, whatever. It's not some crazy hype piece or widely-perceived grail that everyone is trying to get. Nevertheless, I truly adore this watch and actually feel that it is a better fit for me than a sub, or a GMT. It certainly fits my smaller wrist in a better way and it also serves my needs just fine, as 100m waterproofness is all that I could need and I don't care much for the date or second time zone. This perfect, beautiful, under-the-radar masterpiece fits my lifestyle and brings me a sense of satisfaction that leaves me thinking: "maybe my grail is the watch I already own, here on my wrist." I think that sort of bond is what makes it so special.
Wonderfully put! Glad to hear you enjoy your watch so much. I couldn't agree more with the OP. I went with the 34mm to have a more vintage feel in a modern package.
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Interesting question Rob

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With 55K posts if you're not a collector then who is? You da man, Tbone.
He's a connoisseur.
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It had to be my Rolex CHNR. After owning and wearing one Datejust for more than 30 years I bought my first GMT II and it renewed my interest. Been downhill ever since !
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