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Old 19 December 2017, 06:23 PM   #31
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Old 19 December 2017, 10:30 PM   #32
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Thank too for sharing this JP. Fantastic collection as well!
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Old 5 January 2018, 09:16 PM   #33
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Excellent write-up and very informative. I understand that Rolex switched from 316L to 904L stainless steel in the mid- to late 90s. What little I was able to find inferred that initially only cases were 904L and later bracelets were changed over to 904L as they are today.
Do you have any information as to when Rolex started incorporating 904L in the GMTII line and is there a way to tell on the bracelet?
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Old 6 January 2018, 03:03 AM   #34
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Excellent write-up and very informative. I understand that Rolex switched from 316L to 904L stainless steel in the mid- to late 90s. What little I was able to find inferred that initially only cases were 904L and later bracelets were changed over to 904L as they are today.
Do you have any information as to when Rolex started incorporating 904L in the GMTII line and is there a way to tell on the bracelet?
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Sorry, can't help you. Place a thread in the vintage forum and someone there should be able to help you out.
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Old 7 January 2018, 07:29 AM   #35
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Sure thing. Hers's a group shot of my collection from a few years ago.

TOP ROW: 16750, 1675,1675,16750
MIDDLE: 1675 (with fuchsia insert)
THIRD ROW: 16700, 16713
FOURTH ROW: 16750,16750,1675,16750,16750
FIFTH ROW: 1675, 1675, 1675, 1675,1675
BOTTOM ROW: 16710, 1675 (radial dial), 16760
What a collection, thank you
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Old 7 January 2018, 09:11 AM   #36
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Sure thing. Hers's a group shot of my collection from a few years ago.

TOP ROW: 16750, 1675,1675,16750
MIDDLE: 1675 (with fuchsia insert)
THIRD ROW: 16700, 16713
FOURTH ROW: 16750,16750,1675,16750,16750
FIFTH ROW: 1675, 1675, 1675, 1675,1675
BOTTOM ROW: 16710, 1675 (radial dial), 16760
Absolutely AMAZING collection JP!! Thank you for sharing your plethora of knowledge, and giving us a tease of your GMT lineup!!
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Old 16 January 2018, 09:52 AM   #37
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Amazing post! I was directed here after posting about an early 90s 16710 I saw at a jeweler today. The bracelet felt much flimsier than the 78760 on my M series Yacht-Master. Would a more recent 16710 have a bracelet similar (or same minus no PCLs) as my YM?


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Old 18 January 2018, 03:25 PM   #38
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Amazing post! I was directed here after posting about an early 90s 16710 I saw at a jeweler today. The bracelet felt much flimsier than the 78760 on my M series Yacht-Master. Would a more recent 16710 have a bracelet similar (or same minus no PCLs) as my YM?


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I've never found any of the 16710 bracelets to be flimsy. Personally, I like them much better than the newer bracelets on the ceramics.
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Old 19 January 2018, 12:22 AM   #39
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Awesome review. Thanks!!!
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Old 21 January 2018, 01:33 PM   #40
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Hi and great info. I like the open 6 9 date wheels and was wondering which was the last GMT models to come with them. For instance does the 16700 have it?

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Old 25 January 2018, 06:00 AM   #41
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Hi and great info. I like the open 6 9 date wheels and was wondering which was the last GMT models to come with them. For instance does the 16700 have it?

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I'm pretty sure only the very early ones have the open 6 date wheel. I have an N serial and the 6 is closed.
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Old 29 January 2018, 11:57 AM   #42
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Sure thing. Hers's a group shot of my collection from a few years ago.

TOP ROW: 16750, 1675,1675,16750
MIDDLE: 1675 (with fuchsia insert)
THIRD ROW: 16700, 16713
FOURTH ROW: 16750,16750,1675,16750,16750
FIFTH ROW: 1675, 1675, 1675, 1675,1675
BOTTOM ROW: 16710, 1675 (radial dial), 16760
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Old 9 February 2018, 01:38 PM   #43
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I just picked one up i cant wait to get my hands on it...
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Old 31 March 2018, 01:37 PM   #44
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Thanks for putting this awesome information together Springer!

Any plans to update the pricing? =)
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Old 21 April 2018, 07:15 AM   #45
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Excellent write-up and very informative. I understand that Rolex switched from 316L to 904L stainless steel in the mid- to late 90s. What little I was able to find inferred that initially only cases were 904L and later bracelets were changed over to 904L as they are today.
Do you have any information as to when Rolex started incorporating 904L in the GMTII line and is there a way to tell on the bracelet?
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The 116710LN was the first GMT model to have a 904L bracelet. Anything prior was 316L even on models with 904L cases. The rule of thumb is that no "tuna can" clasp / hollow link bracelet was 904L.

Fun fact; Rolex used to source their 316L from Sandvik in Sweden before making their own 904L alloy in-house.

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Old 22 April 2018, 02:56 PM   #46
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Thank you for this fantastic write-up and that shot of your beautiful collection.
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Old 31 May 2018, 05:17 AM   #47
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Old 28 July 2018, 04:57 PM   #48
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Amazing! Great stuff, thanks Springer!
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Old 7 November 2018, 11:47 PM   #49
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This is a great thread! Thank you for putting this together. Really helped me get a better handle on the GMTs!
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Old 15 November 2018, 12:09 PM   #50
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Super helpful Springer. Not sure why I couldn't find this earlier in the week when searching 16710 but happy to have stumbled on it now after you commented on my recent post.
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Old 29 November 2018, 11:07 AM   #51
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Thanks for the info and pics of your amazing collection.
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Old 25 January 2019, 11:26 AM   #52
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Thank you very much for explaining all the different GMT models! Mind-blowing is that amazing collection!

UPDATE on the pricing of those models for 2019!? I would really like to see that if possible.

THANK YOU!
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Old 13 March 2019, 02:24 PM   #53
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Old 13 March 2019, 11:28 PM   #54
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I didn't know that the 16760 could have the 93150 whit 593 endlinks, thanks
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Old 31 March 2019, 04:41 PM   #55
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Old 31 March 2019, 07:36 PM   #56
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Just wondering if same tube and crown fits both 1675 and 16750?
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Old 1 April 2019, 01:49 PM   #57
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Old 4 April 2019, 06:47 AM   #58
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Springer, trying to reach you about pouches ur PM is full and will not accept messages please PM me if you can.
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I've been digging in to learn about GMTs. So many models, variations. This guide is helpful in choosing. I'm after a 16760 Fat Lady. I'll let you know when she sings!
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Old 12 June 2019, 03:32 PM   #60
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