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Old 2 October 2024, 01:23 AM   #31
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I would get something as different from the explorer as possible.
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Old 2 October 2024, 02:02 AM   #32
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You've convinced me to take a look at tudor more closely. I do like rugged. Do you know how they compare to a seamaster or planet ocean? What are the advantages of aluminum vs ceramic?
I think the current Tudor BB lineup is probably comparable to a Seamaster 300 but is a bit smaller and thinner (and w/o the helium release valve). SMP probably also has a bit more heft to it, and perhaps slightly nicer finishing (its MSRP is almost 2x that of the Tudor). Specs are comparable, other than WR, where the SMP is 300m and the Tudors are 200m.

PO is another beast entirely; way thicker and heavier but also with 3x the WR of the Tudor.

Also forgot about the blue Pelagos in titanium...

As to aluminum vs ceramic, it's probably 75% aesthetic preference. I like the look of old school aluminum inserts - Rolex was always at its best when keeping things simplest in my opinion.
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Old 2 October 2024, 02:30 AM   #33
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I’ll go against the grain and vote for the green Seamaster, which I think would be the perfect foil to your Explorer. It’s a real chameleon in terms of colour, has fantastic bracelet adjustability, fit and finish to match a Sub and superb legibility due to its outstanding AR coating. At the price point it’s a really great piece and would give you a brilliant Rolex/Omega combo.
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Old 2 October 2024, 02:33 AM   #34
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get the gmt ii on jubilee, preferably the Pepsi or batgirl
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Old 2 October 2024, 12:02 PM   #35
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get the gmt ii on jubilee, preferably the Pepsi or batgirl
Impossible for me to get a pepsi right? I have a purchase history of one explorer. I prefer the Batman colours though anyway. Maybe impossible to get that as well.
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Old 2 October 2024, 12:04 PM   #36
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I’ll go against the grain and vote for the green Seamaster, which I think would be the perfect foil to your Explorer. It’s a real chameleon in terms of colour, has fantastic bracelet adjustability, fit and finish to match a Sub and superb legibility due to its outstanding AR coating. At the price point it’s a really great piece and would give you a brilliant Rolex/Omega combo.
All great points. I do like the shade of green on that seamaster. If I choose that I may take the rubber band instead of the bracelet. I thought I didn't mind it but when I saw it in a shop it actually did look quite old fashioned to me.
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Old 2 October 2024, 12:08 PM   #37
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I think the current Tudor BB lineup is probably comparable to a Seamaster 300 but is a bit smaller and thinner (and w/o the helium release valve). SMP probably also has a bit more heft to it, and perhaps slightly nicer finishing (its MSRP is almost 2x that of the Tudor). Specs are comparable, other than WR, where the SMP is 300m and the Tudors are 200m.

PO is another beast entirely; way thicker and heavier but also with 3x the WR of the Tudor.

Also forgot about the blue Pelagos in titanium...

As to aluminum vs ceramic, it's probably 75% aesthetic preference. I like the look of old school aluminum inserts - Rolex was always at its best when keeping things simplest in my opinion.
Thanks for the comments on tudor; I really haven't researched them much before. I think I had a bias that they were below rolex and omega in quality and the designs were simply close rolex copies.

Importantly, I'm trying to think of a situation where I would wake up in the morning and actively choose to wear a tudor instead of the rolex explorer that I already have. I'm thinking if I already have an explorer, when would I wear a tudor instead? In my mind my second watch has to be the same level of quality(at least in my head).
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Old 2 October 2024, 12:33 PM   #38
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I have an Explorer 36 and a Sub Date. I believe it’s the perfect pair and could see myself being happy with only those 2 if I had to.

However, since you mentioned wanting some color (I can see that!), I would highly suggest checking out the dark blue Omega Planet Ocean (something you mentioned). It’s a gorgeous watch, easy to obtain, quite different than the Explorer but also kind of matching on the dial.

Pretty much ticks all the boxes you were asking about and would be a fantastic pair!


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Old 2 October 2024, 12:39 PM   #39
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I would encourage you to consider a Tudor as well, and try to go in as unbiased as possible (I know, nearly impossible with all of those poor man rolex comments). You have a great model of the crown, and realistically, if you aren't wanting to go grey the watches that would fit your criteria are not going to be offered to you anytime soon. Starbucks, batman, and Pepsi are tough to get, even today.

It's funny, after getting my first Rolex (batman), I find the watch I am missing the most these days is a Tudor black bay 54 I got rid of to fund my GMT purchase. I think when all the hype and noise around you disappears, it becomes easier to see what you like for yourself.

Give Tudor and Omega a fair shake. Go try them on, take wrist shots, mull on them, and think about what you are looking for in the next piece that doesn't have to be related to a name. Bigger wrist? I would hunt for the new black bay Chrono blue. Wow, it was STUNNING when I tried it on. Get the burgundy black bay for a pop of colour, or the green sea master on a green rubber strap. These are all fantastic watches. Heck, go for the Speedie. She ain't no explorer (sorry I happen to think that she's miles better hahaha). Smaller wrist, try the black bay 58 blue, or the bronze edition for a different pace, or the 54 in all its plain perfection.

I think what I'm saying is that there are some incredible options out there in just 2 brands, so don't Pidgeon hole yourself into only another Rolex.

Here are some pics including your explorer 40 to give you more of a hard time deciding what to do next hahaha!
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Old 2 October 2024, 01:01 PM   #40
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My recommendation is DJ41 with the Wimbledon dial. It is the perfect companion to an Explorer. Get one on the jubilee for some bracelet variety, and smooth bezel if you want a little more sporty, fluted if you want more flashy and dressy.

If I am perfectly honest, these two might just fit the bill for a perfect two-piece collection.
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If I am perfectly honest, these two might just fit the bill for a perfect two-piece collection.
While I reckon there are no wrong choices, those two really are perfect. Outstanding!
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Old 2 October 2024, 07:25 PM   #42
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Really? A watch should be something that draws you into buying it. Just keep reading the pages here and you'll pretty much see most of the Rolex catalog. Go for the one that calls you.
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Old 2 October 2024, 08:18 PM   #43
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Thanks for all the comments and discussions. It has helped me think about what I am looking for to complement my explorer, what I am looking for in my second watch. This now is my list in order with my thinking...

1. Green starbucks sub - colour I like, quality bracelet I like - not flashy
2. Polar explorer 2 - colour I like, nice gmt function, good bracelet. Might be a bit big - need to try it on if possible
3. Batman gmt - colour I like, nice gmt function, pcl bracelet might be a bit sparkly for my taste
4. Seaweed seamaster - colour I like, would buy on rubber
5. Planet ocean - colour undecided
5. A tudor but not sure which yet still need to research

I will ask for the top 3 at my ad. Realistically I would probably take the first one that appears of the top 3!
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Old 2 October 2024, 09:09 PM   #44
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Based on your various comments, I think you’re going to love the Explorer II. It sounds like you want sporty and want to avoid flashy/ sparkly and it does a great job at that

Secondly, your main concern with it seems to be the size and I think as soon as you try it on, those concerns will disappear - it’s quite slim and doesn’t wear as large as all the Internet forums might have you think it will.
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Old 2 October 2024, 09:43 PM   #45
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My Rolex collection was initially going to be an Explorer II and a Sub Date. For me the latter would also go well with an Explorer, although I'd probably have an OP or a Milgauss in preference to the Explorer.

It's impossible to say what would suit you. That's your call. A nice problem to have nevertheless.
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Old 2 October 2024, 10:13 PM   #46
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Thanks for the comments on tudor; I really haven't researched them much before. I think I had a bias that they were below rolex and omega in quality and the designs were simply close rolex copies.

Importantly, I'm trying to think of a situation where I would wake up in the morning and actively choose to wear a tudor instead of the rolex explorer that I already have. I'm thinking if I already have an explorer, when would I wear a tudor instead? In my mind my second watch has to be the same level of quality(at least in my head).
I used to feel the same. What changed my mind were some of the Tudor releases the past couple years (BB54, BB 36, BB58 GMT). I prefer the style of five-digit (and earlier) Rolexes, and the specs of the Tudors are pretty hard to ignore, especially for someone who prefers smaller watches.
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Old 3 October 2024, 01:36 AM   #47
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I'm going to go against the grain, and your initial request, and suggest you get one of the several "strap monster" watches out there. A white dial Speedmaster would do well, or perhaps a Cartier Santos. Something that you could get several straps for that would add variety and excitement to the collection for when you inevitably get bored. Just a thought.
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Old 3 October 2024, 01:55 AM   #48
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I would go for a GMT, Batman being my personnal preference.

My favorite Rolex is the Sub (black, no date). But I cannot recommend it if you have an Explorer already.
I love the Explorer, but I cannot justify buying one as it is too similar to my Sub in functionality.

Explorer II would be nice too.

Another option could be a SkyDweller :). Half way sporty half way dressed with an oyster bracelet and super cool complication…


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I used to feel the same. What changed my mind were some of the Tudor releases the past couple years (BB54, BB 36, BB58 GMT). I prefer the style of five-digit (and earlier) Rolexes, and the specs of the Tudors are pretty hard to ignore, especially for someone who prefers smaller watches.
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There were two things that previously kept me from embracing Tudor: the use of unnecessarily chunky crowns and cases, and what were essentially stock sourced movements. Didn't like the aesthetics of the first, nor did I want to pay those prices for the second.

Tudor was a "lesser Rolex" back when it used Rolex's components (cases, crowns, bracelets) paired with lesser movements (off-the-shelf and inferior to those sourced from Aegler for Rolex). After all, the exterior is where Rolex made the majority of its innovations during the middle 50 years of the last century. Today, however, that's changed and the movements that Tudor uses are far more impressive. Yes, versions of them are also sold to others, but Rolex/Tudor developed them entirely and in some ways I think they are more reliable than the current Rolex units.
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I'd suggest putting in for the Sub LV and the GMT of your choice, both likely a bit of wait. But while you are waiting, I'd echo the recommendations to check out Tudor. I had a similar sentiment about when I would wear one. But as it has been laid out Tudor is a solid watch in its own right. I personally am not a fan of the gilt or aged look, but I have the BB41 Monochrome and it has become one of my favorite watches to wear. I have the 5-link jubilee style bracelet and the OEM rubber - both give it a look that is very different to a Sub but still familiar with a hint of both vintage and modern. It is a nice watch IMO. It doesn't give you any color but between the BB41 and my Explorer I'm set for a GADA daily .... as I wait for my call/text to come pick up a SS Sub.
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I would say go Rootbeer, unbelievable in flesh


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1. Speedmaster white dial
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There are plenty of Rolex options… but if buying only 1 more watch (yeah, right… :)) look at other brands too. A green GO SeaQ would be a great option.
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There are plenty of Rolex options… but if buying only 1 more watch (yeah, right… :)) look at other brands too. A green GO SeaQ would be a great option.

Exactly, I wondered this too. That’s why I pushed the Planet Ocean :)


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Thanks for all the comments and discussions. It has helped me think about what I am looking for to complement my explorer, what I am looking for in my second watch. This now is my list in order with my thinking...

1. Green starbucks sub - colour I like, quality bracelet I like - not flashy
2. Polar explorer 2 - colour I like, nice gmt function, good bracelet. Might be a bit big - need to try it on if possible
3. Batman gmt - colour I like, nice gmt function, pcl bracelet might be a bit sparkly for my taste
4. Seaweed seamaster - colour I like, would buy on rubber
5. Planet ocean - colour undecided
5. A tudor but not sure which yet still need to research

I will ask for the top 3 at my ad. Realistically I would probably take the first one that appears of the top 3!
I wouldn't get the GMT on an Oyster bracelet. I don't like the PCLs...I prefer the jubilee and that's what I have.
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BLNR, but it has to be on JUBILEE. That duo would cover most bases. Good luck!
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Following everyone's idea of going a little dressier... I think a good end-game, final complement to the understated, modern, simple, time only Rolex explorer is a Rainbow Daytona. It's at the other end of the cost spectrum.

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I'm looking for a second and final watch to join my explorer 40mm. I would like it to be a bit sportier and with some colour. The explorer is formal enough for me to wear with suits for work and it also does very well on weekends. But I am going to buy a second watch anyway.

I've looked at the Batman gmt, the Rootbeer gmt, the polar explorer 2, the starbucks sub, the green seamaster and a couple of planet oceans.

Anyone had similar decisions to make or have any thoughts on which model may best fit my bill? Thanks.
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I recommend a two-tone DJ to partner with the Explorer.
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Hello everyone

I'm looking for a second and final watch to join my explorer 40mm. I would like it to be a bit sportier and with some colour. The explorer is formal enough for me to wear with suits for work and it also does very well on weekends. But I am going to buy a second watch anyway.

I've looked at the Batman gmt, the Rootbeer gmt, the polar explorer 2, the starbucks sub, the green seamaster and a couple of planet oceans.

Anyone had similar decisions to make or have any thoughts on which model may best fit my bill? Thanks.

IMO, EXP I & II would be a hard combo to beat.

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I’d get the green sub. Proper tool watch with a pop of color. Any GMT on jubilee would be great too. Give you a nice 2 watch combo.


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