Pepsi production rumour?

[carwash66]

If they are having “production” issues, could be caused by unavailability of certain raw materials.

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by tenementhall

Not true, asked my ADs (2 largest in Manhattan) and no difference in number of incoming Pepsis, nor any expectation of it

Well there you go: the ADs most likely to have priority are still getting those watches. Makes sense to me.

[Joearch]

Originally Posted by ndrs63

Yeah, the blue turns black ;)


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Funny you post this. The blue on my Pepsi is super dark. Almost black. Like that from Day 1. I must say that I like that a lot. Makes the watch sort of like a coke. Is this something people are asking Rolex to replace?

[Calatrava r]

I thought I saw the Pepsi bezel production issues mentioned here in another earlier thread a week or so ago. I know Rolex had a time perfecting the color transition in the first models.

[phillyvice]

Originally Posted by Podmornica

Grey dealers must be getting desperate in order to maintain those inflated blro prices that hardly anyone is paying these days..

Smart


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[CarlOver]

This was verified about 6 months ago.

[jb335]

Originally Posted by CarlOver

This was verified about 6 months ago.

What was verified? The rumor? Lol


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[biza]

I doubt if it's true

[GGGMT]

Originally Posted by quantumdna

My opinion, fake news. Rolex has perfected the blue and red coloring on the insert for quite some time. They make 4 or 5 different bezel inserts for the different variations of GMT’s on their catalog which means their production may get shared across all those variations.

This. After all these years, they sort of lost the color combination? Accidentally spilled in some yellow?


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[Andad]

Originally Posted by buffetwarren

Has the rumour that Rolex is having trouble getting the colour of Pepsi bezels been substantiated at all? The rumour goes that ADs will be receiving fewer Pepsis this year due to this issue. Is it true or fake news?

How would we know?

[Lceltic]

My AD said they are now getting fewer Pepsis than Daytonas. I have a Pepsi so I could care less about this subject. Just passing on what I was told. She does not know the reason but did say they have recently been getting in a lot more Batman/Batgirls.

[Henrimontgomery]

Yes Rolex, the behemoth of watch production, is now having issues because unknown reasons and the info is leaking on a random person's insight.

People above the 25% IQ quartile know to ignore this information.

[rg9390]

My AD tells me their watches come in batches, there are times a bunch of GMTs (Batman / Pepsi), then daytona, etc., so it may just be the cycle where GMTs (or Pepsi) are not coming in these batches.

[Meg007]

Have been told in uk that there’s no Pepsi due any time soon by my AD. I have one so I take this to be a real story.

[Harry-57]

Things are usually produced in batches. Losing a batch or even two can put a hole in the supply chain. It happens. Has it happened to the BLRO bezel insert? I don't know, although I tend to trust the feedback I see from some contributors, one of whom has posted in this thread.

[KeobNepo]

nobody knows

[rolexgs]

same rumors about the Op41 red and yellow dial.

[KM95]

This is 100% true and it is NOT due to quality issues.

[buffetwarren]

Originally Posted by KM95

This is 100% true and it is NOT due to quality issues.

Please elaborate and state your source

[cydesai]

Originally Posted by rg9390

My AD tells me their watches come in batches, there are times a bunch of GMTs (Batman / Pepsi), then daytona, etc., so it may just be the cycle where GMTs (or Pepsi) are not coming in these batches.

I believe this is the real reason. They ship 100s of those across the country in one batch, but that batch could be once every 2-3 months, I’m guessing?

FWIW, asked a major chain yesterday and they confirmed that there is no such news from Rolex regarding production issues, and they are coming in their shipments as normally as past.

[Guppydriver]

Even if AD's are receiving less BLRO's, it could simply be because that's what the wizard behind the curtain wants.

Human nature....

"I can't get a BLRO no matter how long I wait"

Either because:

1. I don't have the clout to get allocated one

or

2. Must be a manufacturing problem causing scarcity

"Clearly, it must be the latter"

Personally. I'm unabashedly in the number one category.

[007_Omega]

Just so people understand mass manufacturing, the Pepsi bezels are produced in huge batches. Hence the mki, mkii, mkiii and so on. If on the off chance there was some sort of production error, that could scale back production.

Why they'd be having this issues? I have no clue but it's not impossible.

I have been on this forum from years and seen completely unsubstantiated rumors and also many people claiming to have heard similar news and certain members of this forum throwing up a storm denying them.

Go back in history and look at mki vs mkii Pepsi and so on. There were people going to the grave that there was no such thing.

[Ten Ten & 32]

This is my ‘My AD said’ but genuinely this IS what my AD told me when I recently purchased my WG GMT blue dial Pepsi.

He said he’d been out to Watches & Wonders and had various meeting/conversations etc with the Rolex people.

What they told him was that of all the bi colour ceramic bezels, the red/blue combo was by far the most difficult to perfect.

They have around an 85% fail rate - the main failure being the red ‘bleeding’ into the blue and leaving a fuzzy join & not straight & crisp as desired.

By comparison, they don’t seem to have the same issues with the blue/black or black/brown on the BLNR or CHNR.

At around £1000 uk sterling manufacturing cost per bezel, 85% failure is getting expensive even by Rolex standards.

What he said was that at ‘some point’ in the future (no time scales specified) Rolex top brass may say enough is enough if the fail rate can’t be improved & withdraw the red/blue altogether.

Don’t shoot he messenger,,,,,




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[harvey]

‘£1000 uk sterling manufacturing cost per bezel’

Your AD said that?

[dannyp]

Originally Posted by Ten Ten & 32

This is my ‘My AD said’ but genuinely this IS what my AD told me when I recently purchased my WG GMT blue dial Pepsi.

He said he’d been out to Watches & Wonders and had various meeting/conversations etc with the Rolex people.

What they told him was that of all the bi colour ceramic bezels, the red/blue combo was by far the most difficult to perfect.

They have around an 85% fail rate - the main failure being the red ‘bleeding’ into the blue and leaving a fuzzy join & not straight & crisp as desired.

By comparison, they don’t seem to have the same issues with the blue/black or black/brown on the BLNR or CHNR.

At around £1000 uk sterling manufacturing cost per bezel, 85% failure is getting expensive even by Rolex standards.

What he said was that at ‘some point’ in the future (no time scales specified) Rolex top brass may say enough is enough if the fail rate can’t be improved & withdraw the red/blue altogether.

Don’t shoot he messenger,,,,,




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Surely there’s no way that’s the production cost of the insert alone?!?! Maybe the full bezel on a WG model, but even that seems off. Or perhaps that’s the eventual cost of getting one good bezel (I.e. it costs 15k to produce 100, 85 off which don’t pass QC). But if each discarded bezel was a 1k waste then the actual cost of getting one good one would be almost 7k, which is more than wholesale price of the watch.

[buffetwarren]

Originally Posted by Ten Ten & 32

This is my ‘My AD said’ but genuinely this IS what my AD told me when I recently purchased my WG GMT blue dial Pepsi.

He said he’d been out to Watches & Wonders and had various meeting/conversations etc with the Rolex people.

What they told him was that of all the bi colour ceramic bezels, the red/blue combo was by far the most difficult to perfect.

They have around an 85% fail rate - the main failure being the red ‘bleeding’ into the blue and leaving a fuzzy join & not straight & crisp as desired.

By comparison, they don’t seem to have the same issues with the blue/black or black/brown on the BLNR or CHNR.

At around £1000 uk sterling manufacturing cost per bezel, 85% failure is getting expensive even by Rolex standards.

What he said was that at ‘some point’ in the future (no time scales specified) Rolex top brass may say enough is enough if the fail rate can’t be improved & withdraw the red/blue altogether.

Don’t shoot he messenger,,,,,




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I’m not shooting the messenger but Rolex isn’t going to discontinue the OG colourway of the GMT.

[VerticalClutch]

Originally Posted by Ten Ten & 32

This is my ‘My AD said’ but genuinely this IS what my AD told me when I recently purchased my WG GMT blue dial Pepsi.

He said he’d been out to Watches & Wonders and had various meeting/conversations etc with the Rolex people.

What they told him was that of all the bi colour ceramic bezels, the red/blue combo was by far the most difficult to perfect.

They have around an 85% fail rate - the main failure being the red ‘bleeding’ into the blue and leaving a fuzzy join & not straight & crisp as desired.

By comparison, they don’t seem to have the same issues with the blue/black or black/brown on the BLNR or CHNR.

At around £1000 uk sterling manufacturing cost per bezel, 85% failure is getting expensive even by Rolex standards.

What he said was that at ‘some point’ in the future (no time scales specified) Rolex top brass may say enough is enough if the fail rate can’t be improved & withdraw the red/blue altogether.

Don’t shoot he messenger,,,,,




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My brain just can't accept this. I run a business; I can't possibly accept the idea that the Pepsi costs 10% more than the Batman to make, but Rolex charges the same for both models?

This just doesn't pass the smell test for me.

[minute_man]

Originally Posted by Ten Ten & 32

This is my ‘My AD said’ but genuinely this IS what my AD told me when I recently purchased my WG GMT blue dial Pepsi.

He said he’d been out to Watches & Wonders and had various meeting/conversations etc with the Rolex people.

What they told him was that of all the bi colour ceramic bezels, the red/blue combo was by far the most difficult to perfect.

They have around an 85% fail rate - the main failure being the red ‘bleeding’ into the blue and leaving a fuzzy join & not straight & crisp as desired.

By comparison, they don’t seem to have the same issues with the blue/black or black/brown on the BLNR or CHNR.

At around £1000 uk sterling manufacturing cost per bezel, 85% failure is getting expensive even by Rolex standards.

What he said was that at ‘some point’ in the future (no time scales specified) Rolex top brass may say enough is enough if the fail rate can’t be improved & withdraw the red/blue altogether.

Don’t shoot he messenger,,,,,




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Not to question YOUR account, but rather the AD's information.
This has been circulating among the wis for quite some time now.
So much so, that I even took a shot in the dark on one of those 2023 W&W speculation threads, as I've been hearing this rumor time and again over the last couple of years. Just for the laughs.
Because of course, if I can have this kind of information, then I guess it isn't of any real value. Despite everyone's claim of having heard from someone who knew of someone who had the inside scoop...
Now with BLRO bezels nearing a 10 year run, I wouldn't be surprised if Rolex decided to discontinue the color scheme at some point, in favor of another one. But sure enough not because it's costlier or harder to mass produce. They've been churning them out by the 1000s regardless and every model / configuration becomes discontinued at some point.

[creepy neville]

‘MY AD SAID’ is pretty much the weakest source you could have.

It is actually surprising the dribble they come out with - anyone who has spent a few hrs on the net researching a specific subject is generally far better informed than most (if not all) AD employees.

[buffetwarren]

Originally Posted by minute_man

Not to question YOUR account, but rather the AD's information.
This has been circulating among the wis for quite some time now.
So much so, that I even took a shot in the dark on one of those 2023 W&W speculation threads, as I've been hearing this rumor time and again over the last couple of years. Just for the laughs.
Because of course, if I can have this kind of information, then I guess it isn't of any real value. Despite everyone's claim of having heard from someone who knew of someone who had the inside scoop...
Now with BLRO bezels nearing a 10 year run, I wouldn't be surprised if Rolex decided to discontinue the color scheme at some point, in favor of another one. But sure enough not because it's costlier or harder to mass produce. They've been churning them out by the 1000s regardless and every model / configuration becomes discontinued at some point.

Has Rolex ever discontinued the Pepsi? I was under the impression it’s never been discontinued since it’s the OG colour way.