F.P. Journe Chronograph FB (LE 200 pcs)

[WatchEater666]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

So I emailed Tokyo Boutique in my broken Japanese and below is the response:

Thank you for your interest in the Tokyo Boutique’s 20th Anniversary Model.

This is a very special model and we have received many requests to purchase it.

Unfortunately, we cannot introduce this product to anyone other than those who are already customers of the Tokyo Boutique.

If you would like to tour our boutique, we would be happy to accommodate you.

We apologize, but please note that there are currently no watches available for immediate purchase.

To FPJs credit, all the boutiques I've visited have been great, and far far higher quality of salesperson VS AP or PP.

They have also been very very honest VS the others. At least they are not lying to you. :)

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by WatchEater666

To FPJs credit, all the boutiques I've visited have been great, and far far higher quality of salesperson VS AP or PP.

They have also been very very honest VS the others. At least they are not lying to you. :)

Yes I appreciate their honest response. I naively think there are not enough customers in Tokyo who want this release before that reply from them

[dakkonmc]

I'm shocked there's 200 requests from Japan Boutique already.

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[ButtButt]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

So I emailed Tokyo Boutique in my broken Japanese and below is the response:

Thank you for your interest in the Tokyo Boutique’s 20th Anniversary Model.

This is a very special model and we have received many requests to purchase it.

Unfortunately, we cannot introduce this product to anyone other than those who are already customers of the Tokyo Boutique.

If you would like to tour our boutique, we would be happy to accommodate you.

We apologize, but please note that there are currently no watches available for immediate purchase.

I'll be in Tokyo again next month and I got this exact same reply

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by ButtButt

I'll be in Tokyo again next month and I got this exact same reply

Great minds think alike!
The last para "there are currently no watches available for immediate purchase" is like telling me "don't try anymore. Give up buddy."

[ButtButt]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

Great minds think alike!
The last para "there are currently no watches available for immediate purchase" is like telling me "don't try anymore. Give up buddy."

Their website also says something like if you're a foreigner we have nothing to sell you, try a different boutique But I might stop by just to look around since I'll be there anyways.

[kaiserphoenix]

The watch is not sold out as of today. However if you have never bought anything from the Tokyo boutique, then it is sold out if that makes sense. Not only is the watch prioritised for clients of the FPJ boutique in Tokyo, you have to remember that the boutique opened 20 years ago and thus there are many clients outside of Japan that are clients of the Tokyo boutique as well. Allocations are not fixed yet...

[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by ButtButt

Their website also says something like if you're a foreigner we have nothing to sell you, try a different boutique But I might stop by just to look around since I'll be there anyways.

Even if you are a Japanese, they have nothing to sell but I think that is the case for most FPJ boutiques in the world tbh. Many watches are on a 10 year wait now at the Tokyo boutique, obviously i have no idea if that is true or not but that is what some new collector was told recently.

[ButtButt]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

Even if you are a Japanese, they have nothing to sell but I think that is the case for most FPJ boutiques in the world tbh. Many watches are on a 10 year wait now at the Tokyo boutique, obviously i have no idea if that is true or not but that is what some new collector was told recently.

Ouch, 10 years... by that time they might not have any more watches below 6 figures

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by ButtButt

Their website also says something like if you're a foreigner we have nothing to sell you, try a different boutique But I might stop by just to look around since I'll be there anyways.

The Boutique is beautiful and being near Nezu Museum, this is a perfect excuse to visit if you ever need one.

I offered them full payment now and collection later, but was rejected. I know of 1 serious FPJ collector based in Tokyo but she is buying for herself. At this point I yield

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

The Boutique is beautiful and being near Nezu Museum, this is a perfect excuse to visit if you ever need one.

I offered them full payment now and collection later, but was rejected. I know of 1 serious FPJ collector based in Tokyo but she is buying for herself. At this point I yield

Is it that beautiful woman who is always eating omakase and wearing dope watches on IG?

[Ichiran]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Is it that beautiful woman who is always eating omakase and wearing dope watches on IG?

[ButtButt]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

The Boutique is beautiful and being near Nezu Museum, this is a perfect excuse to visit if you ever need one.

I offered them full payment now and collection later, but was rejected. I know of 1 serious FPJ collector based in Tokyo but she is buying for herself. At this point I yield

[dakkonmc]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

Assuming we're talking about the same lady on IG. She has an absolutely amazing collection. I can't imagine many people own a matching set of vagabondages.

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[llngoc]

Originally Posted by Ichiran

The Boutique is beautiful and being near Nezu Museum, this is a perfect excuse to visit if you ever need one.

I offered them full payment now and collection later, but was rejected. I know of 1 serious FPJ collector based in Tokyo but she is buying for herself. At this point I yield

I believe this is an application piece. I wish they will let me pay now and collect whenever later too. I would fly to Tokyo tomorrow.

The lady collector on IG, if we are referring to the same person, she is probably one who will get one as she is one of the very early Journe collectors with many amazing pieces. If she cannot get one, probably no one will.

[kaiserphoenix]

Most Japanese collectors if they want one can get one…the reception at least amongst the event attendees was luke warm at best.

[GB-man]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

Most Japanese collectors if they want one can get one…the reception at least amongst the event attendees was luke warm at best.

Tell more? Size? What’s not to like. Too similar to past JP iterations in color scheme?

[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by GB-man

Tell more? Size? What’s not to like. Too similar to past JP iterations in color scheme?

It’s not that they didn’t like it. But no one talked about it which was the strange thing. Size is perfect. Price is sort of neither here nor there and for most FPJ collectors not an issue. I think one major point was the number. 200 is ALOT and whilst it was not going to be produced in one shot, many were turned off by the lack of exclusivity on it. Secondly, whilst the movement is adequate many felt it lacked any FPj essence, it was just a cheaper version of an existing caliber, no story nothing. I think those 2 were the major issues. The size and material is perfect I feel and the colour scheme is in line with previous Tokyo editions.

[llngoc]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

It’s not that they didn’t like it. But no one talked about it which was the strange thing. Size is perfect. Price is sort of neither here nor there and for most FPJ collectors not an issue. I think one major point was the number. 200 is ALOT and whilst it was not going to be produced in one shot, many were turned off by the lack of exclusivity on it. Secondly, whilst the movement is adequate many felt it lacked any FPj essence, it was just a cheaper version of an existing caliber, no story nothing. I think those 2 were the major issues. The size and material is perfect I feel and the colour scheme is in line with previous Tokyo editions.

I will be happy if I can get one. As you said, the size is spot on and it is the only currently "available" dress chronograph in the FPJ collection. But I can see your point on the movement. In order to create something unique but cost effective, it is quicker and cheaper to chop off something.

[Ichiran]

I attended a FPJ event for the launch of FFC, which started with drinks, then dinner with the prototype being rotated between attendees for handling during the dinner. Frankly it's very hard to gauge attendees' perception at such events. I thought nobody likes it as no one was leaping in joy when they handled the FFC but was not surprised some customers registered interest for the $900k watch during and after the event. There are collectors like Santa Laura who don't even attend such events. Some just go for the drinks and company. Some like me can't afford the FFC and was just there to see FP and take free gifts.

[ButtButt]

Originally Posted by llngoc

I will be happy if I can get one. As you said, the size is spot on and it is the only currently "available" dress chronograph in the FPJ collection. But I can see your point on the movement. In order to create something unique but cost effective, it is quicker and cheaper to chop off something.

Me too, I love how it looks and it would go well with my chronograph theme. One can dream...

[WatchTimes]

Not like what I think matters as it is sold out but I just don't care for TT even on a FPJ.
Its beautiful but just not for me due to being TT.

[dakkonmc]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

It’s not that they didn’t like it. But no one talked about it which was the strange thing. Size is perfect. Price is sort of neither here nor there and for most FPJ collectors not an issue. I think one major point was the number. 200 is ALOT and whilst it was not going to be produced in one shot, many were turned off by the lack of exclusivity on it. Secondly, whilst the movement is adequate many felt it lacked any FPj essence, it was just a cheaper version of an existing caliber, no story nothing. I think those 2 were the major issues. The size and material is perfect I feel and the colour scheme is in line with previous Tokyo editions.

Definitely would have been nicer if it was a rattrapante and small edition. If it was a rattrapante. Prices would have been higher, and the probability of getting this watch with a smaller edition would have been next to none for as lot of us.



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[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by dakkonmc

Definitely would have been nicer if it was a rattrapante and small edition. If it was a rattrapante. Prices would have been higher, and the probability of getting this watch with a smaller edition would have been next to none for as lot of us.



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Yep. Which is why I think many of the more seasoned collectors weren’t as interested as I think the watch was released to be widely accessible to as many people as possible which is a good thing and a bad thing.

[dakkonmc]

Originally Posted by kaiserphoenix

Yep. Which is why I think many of the more seasoned collectors weren’t as interested as I think the watch was released to be widely accessible to as many people as possible which is a good thing and a bad thing.

Ruthenium and a titanium case is very appealing to me. I can see some collectors not liking the bigger edition and the movement if they already had a Ruthenium FPJ.

I imagine 200 watches would be delivered over a few years. Which may reduce availability of other watches.

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[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by dakkonmc

Ruthenium and a titanium case is very appealing to me. I can see some collectors not liking the bigger edition and the movement if they already had a Ruthenium FPJ.

I imagine 200 watches would be delivered over a few years. Which may reduce availability of other watches.

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Yep, upon my conversation with FP that is what he said and he mentioned other countries will have allocations as well over a few years. I know I will regret not taking one haha but I have another big incoming from the boutique so have to save ammo.

[GB-man]

I’m thinking it may cut into CMS production the next few years. I honestly consider it not being a split as a plus because it differentiates it from the CMS and of course only watch further.

[kaiserphoenix]

Originally Posted by GB-man

I’m thinking it may cut into CMS production the next few years. I honestly consider it not being a split as a plus because it differentiates it from the CMS and of course only watch further.

100% agreed. I think its a positive as it is a "unique" configuration and also keeps the price down.

I think noone thought of it as a negative for sure.

[Ichiran]

That 2-tone looks great in this extraordinary company of watches.
From @meaning_intime

[dakkonmc]

I just noticed it was the Only Watch Astronomic!! Tokyo Boutique really know how to throw a party.