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Old 16 September 2021, 05:32 AM   #31
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Old 16 September 2021, 06:26 AM   #32
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OP, I know how you feel, And I think you probably made the right move. Time to chill on watches for a bit. I purchased a new 126200 in October 2020 and a oyster perpetual.

The DJ ran slow when I got it, had the AD regulate it twice, de magnetized it twice, sent to RSC and got it back running spot on, 3 months later -11 spd. Sent it to RSC a second time, got it back and dumped it and the oyster perpetual within a hour.

I won't have one I can't depend on, especially after all my research and hype I read. Had Omega's ever since and had unbelievable accuracy and not one single issue since. Never looked back.

I'm sure I could have got a couple of lemons as with any brand. But after owning a dozen or so Rolex's, I'm done. Been happy ever since. But I still like some of the Rolex models, I mostly have owned subs and DJ'S. But always liked the GMT. May get one if this nonsense settles down. But not going to beg or over pay to get one.

For now I'm saving for my grail/last watch/exit happy piece.
Wow.

Yeah sounds like a stressful situation.

My Speedmaster has been sent back twice within a year that I purchased it.

It looks like they got it right this time.

I'm excited for a Seamaster 300M.

If I can find one with a straight bezel insert.

I posted a thread on the Omega forum, and they say that crooked bezel inserts aren't that common. So look for a straight one.

Too bad we can't say the same thing about the ROLEX REHAUT.
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Old 16 September 2021, 06:27 AM   #33
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Isn’t the warranty for problems like that?
You are correct.

But send back a watch that I paid $12655 (including tax) for?

And hope it comes back without scratches and what not?

No thank you.

I'd rather take the loss and move on.
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Old 16 September 2021, 06:30 AM   #34
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It is a bummer when things do not live up to expectations. Especially fancy things. I mostly blame the internet and the hype machine for this as we see luxury watches presented as items of "perfection" when in reality they never will be. Same with a new house. Or a new car. Everything has flaws, and if it didn't on day 1 it will on day 2. I suspect that 50 years ago a watch was bought with entirely different expectations. But today it's nearly impossible to convince one's self that these things are still tools. So if it is instead jewelry, then every little mark, every hint of a non-perfect feel, just seems wrong and nearly offensive. I feel your pain, but just be glad that you are self-aware enough to take a step back and decompress.
Right, I agree with you.

I told myself that if the watch was $5000 or maybe $6000 I would've kept it.

But I'm tired of paying so much for watches with faulty QC.

It's just not worth the stress.

I just wish I would've caught it before I left the AD.
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Old 16 September 2021, 06:37 AM   #35
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Well, I bought a two tone Datejust 36 about 2 weeks ago.

Created an incoming thread, thought it would be my last watch.

I chased the watch for months, and finally bought it.

Well, I didn't bond with the watch the way I thought I would.

Further, the lume on it was hardly visible and to top it off, the bracelet clasp was a little crooked. It would rub on the bracelet before closing. Just on one side too.

I sold it, took a $1600 loss on it.

Now I feel like I'm tired of watches.

It is hard to spend so much money on them, and they come with flaws.

I wanted to ask the forum if you guys thought that I could sent it under warranty repair to fix the bracelet.

But what is the point?

Why cause stress in my life over a watch I don't need?

Just wanted to share that with you all.

Before buying the Datejust, I wanted a Omega Seamaster 300m.

Went to see one yesterday, inspected it as much as I could, because I don't want to buy a defective watch again....

Well, the bezel alignment was off. Not as bad as a $300 Seiko but it was off. So I didn't buy it.

So I feel like at least for a while, I am done with fancy watches.
Sorry to hear this. BTW, I'm wearing my 30 year old Seiko dive watch today and the rotating bezel is as tight and crisp turning as my Submariner...Good luck!!
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Old 16 September 2021, 06:42 AM   #36
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You are correct.

But send back a watch that I paid $12655 (including tax) for?

And hope it comes back without scratches and what not?

No thank you.

I'd rather take the loss and move on.
That’s your choice, but if you spend enough time here you’ll see that every brand has quality issues, and there are no exceptions

Sorry the DJ didn’t work out for you.
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Old 16 September 2021, 07:00 AM   #37
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Those issues on the watches sound like very minor, easy, fixes. Sounds more like you were looking for a quantifiable reason to decide not to have a bunch of money in a watch. Which is totally cool, and wayyyyyyy better than trying to justify keeping one you don’t really want.
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Old 16 September 2021, 07:02 AM   #38
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Sorry the watch wasn’t what you were looking for. Hope you find it.


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Old 16 September 2021, 07:08 AM   #39
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Sorry to hear this. BTW, I'm wearing my 30 year old Seiko dive watch today and the rotating bezel is as tight and crisp turning as my Submariner...Good luck!!
That's great!

I have a Seiko skx013 that keeps time as good as my Omega Speedmaster does.

But my rehaut is off. I can live with that on a $300 watch though.
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Old 16 September 2021, 07:10 AM   #40
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That’s your choice, but if you spend enough time here you’ll see that every brand has quality issues, and there are no exceptions

Sorry the DJ didn’t work out for you.
You might be right.

The first Tiffany bracelet I bought was perfect and beautiful.

Thinking that Tiffany is perfect, I bought another one.

The second one is not perfect
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Old 16 September 2021, 07:16 AM   #41
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Those issues on the watches sound like very minor, easy, fixes. Sounds more like you were looking for a quantifiable reason to decide not to have a bunch of money in a watch. Which is totally cool, and wayyyyyyy better than trying to justify keeping one you don’t really want.
I see what you mean.

The thing is that I am at a point where buying something for more than $10k, and having to fix it when its new, just isn't my thing anymore.

Some of you guys accept scratches on the dials, crooked rehauts, watches that don't keep time as good as they should, date windows that get stuck.

And you think it is part of the hobby.

I guess it could be.

I remember my first Rolex, a 116613lb. Paid $13,400, 4 years ago.

Loved it, even though the Rehaut was one millimeter off of where it should've been.

It eventually bothered me enough to sell it.

To each their own, but I am personally over things like that.

Which is good for me, and for you. That way you can buy more watches!
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Old 16 September 2021, 07:27 AM   #42
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I see what you mean.

The thing is that I am at a point where buying something for more than $10k, and having to fix it when its new, just isn't my thing anymore.

Some of you guys accept scratches on the dials, crooked rehauts, watches that don't keep time as good as they should, date windows that get stuck.

And you think it is part of the hobby.

I guess it could be.

I remember my first Rolex, a 116613lb. Paid $13,400, 4 years ago.

Loved it, even though the Rehaut was one millimeter off of where it should've been.

It eventually bothered me enough to sell it.

To each their own, but I am personally over things like that.

Which is good for me, and for you. That way you can buy more watches!
To me it’s not part of the hobby so much as a cost of participating in it. There are certainly defects I wouldn’t accept, but others that are, to me, unavoidable.
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Old 16 September 2021, 10:57 AM   #43
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Buying stuff in the end never makes you happy, just the buildup to it does.
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Old 16 September 2021, 12:19 PM   #44
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That's great!

I have a Seiko skx013 that keeps time as good as my Omega Speedmaster does.

But my rehaut is off. I can live with that on a $300 watch though.
I understand. Sorry about the DJ. I’ve gotten really tired of Rolex shenanigans lately in my 3 year quest for a certain model or models. Got nothing so I ordered a Seiko “Arnie” a couple days ago. I’m excited to get this on Friday!!
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Old 16 September 2021, 12:49 PM   #45
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Old 16 September 2021, 01:16 PM   #46
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Old 16 September 2021, 04:30 PM   #47
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Sold my recently bought Datejust

Demand for datejusts on the secondary market is far lower than the demand for them from ADs.

A lot of people buying datejusts are first time buyers, and in it for not just the luxury experience of owning it, but also buying it. These people want a dj from an AD or not at all.

Even then, they depreciate less than most other brands. By a large margin.

Contrary to the popular belief here that Rolex has nothing to sell new customers, a lot of them are in fact still going to new customers.

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Old 16 September 2021, 05:31 PM   #48
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You might be right.

The first Tiffany bracelet I bought was perfect and beautiful.

Thinking that Tiffany is perfect, I bought another one.

The second one is not perfect
Haha. Same as I bought my first Goyard trunk was perfect but not the 2nd one.
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Old 17 September 2021, 05:35 PM   #49
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Thanks for your post; interesting story. I totally get it. I have bought and sold watches that I thought were "the one". The thing is, by owning and wearing watches, your taste develops (and changes) over time.

Still I am very much into watches, in the sense that I have always enjoyed moving on to another one, figuring out what etc.. I used to have an Explorer and Speedmaster, but now it's a Tudor Prince date+day (very conservative, under-the-radar toolwatch style) and a Horage Array (the opposite: an open-worked dial showing the big date wheels, very industrial looking, but with a dressy touch). I love them.

Good luck with next moves, and definitely look beyond the high-end watches ­­­­­– there are so many great (if not greater) watches in the more affordable price brackets.
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Old 17 September 2021, 05:41 PM   #50
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You did the right thing to sell.

I would unplug from watches and move on and out for a while.
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Old 17 September 2021, 11:01 PM   #51
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Well, I bought a two tone Datejust 36 about 2 weeks ago.

Created an incoming thread, thought it would be my last watch.

I chased the watch for months, and finally bought it.

Well, I didn't bond with the watch the way I thought I would.

Further, the lume on it was hardly visible and to top it off, the bracelet clasp was a little crooked. It would rub on the bracelet before closing. Just on one side too.

I sold it, took a $1600 loss on it.

Now I feel like I'm tired of watches.

It is hard to spend so much money on them, and they come with flaws.

I wanted to ask the forum if you guys thought that I could sent it under warranty repair to fix the bracelet.

But what is the point?

Why cause stress in my life over a watch I don't need?

Just wanted to share that with you all.

Before buying the Datejust, I wanted a Omega Seamaster 300m.

Went to see one yesterday, inspected it as much as I could, because I don't want to buy a defective watch again....

Well, the bezel alignment was off. Not as bad as a $300 Seiko but it was off. So I didn't buy it.

So I feel like at least for a while, I am done with fancy watches.
Rolex a couple of weeks ago, wrote to yahoo about their superior
watchmaking and that’s the reason there are shortages …because they work so hard to present us
with perfect watches…which is BS
I wish you could write to the marketing department and tell them
that your watch was not one of the perfect bunch ….
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Old 18 September 2021, 08:14 AM   #52
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Well, I bought a two tone Datejust 36 about 2 weeks ago.

Created an incoming thread, thought it would be my last watch.

I chased the watch for months, and finally bought it.

Well, I didn't bond with the watch the way I thought I would.

Further, the lume on it was hardly visible and to top it off, the bracelet clasp was a little crooked. It would rub on the bracelet before closing. Just on one side too.

I sold it, took a $1600 loss on it.

Now I feel like I'm tired of watches.

It is hard to spend so much money on them, and they come with flaws.

I wanted to ask the forum if you guys thought that I could sent it under warranty repair to fix the bracelet.

But what is the point?

Why cause stress in my life over a watch I don't need?

Just wanted to share that with you all.

Before buying the Datejust, I wanted a Omega Seamaster 300m.

Went to see one yesterday, inspected it as much as I could, because I don't want to buy a defective watch again....

Well, the bezel alignment was off. Not as bad as a $300 Seiko but it was off. So I didn't buy it.

So I feel like at least for a while, I am done with fancy watches.
To get an idea of prices I can ask you how much you had paid for the 36mm steel and gold Rolex and what year was it?
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Old 18 September 2021, 07:01 PM   #53
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You did the right thing, it lost its appeal.
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Old 18 September 2021, 10:40 PM   #54
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Thanks for the feedback.

It sucks.

But I don't regret it. If I hadn't bought it, I would die wondering what a two tone DJ36 feels like.
Agree 100%
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Old 18 September 2021, 10:57 PM   #55
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A lot going on here....

Sorry to hear about the watch not working out.

Also sorry to hear you might be the only person to lose $1600 on a mens Rolex this year.

I'd have used it as trade or kept it.
It really is a shame to lose that but you always have to be prepared for that loss. I'm telling you from experience. I had the two most precious watches in the Rolex and Panerai line. Impeccable with all the papers. I can never sell them to a private individual online because I was not a known gray dealer, just a private individual and people did not trust me.
Finally I needed the money and I had to go to the gray dealers and of course the value I received was much lower than what they sold it for. So anoints. I wish there was a place where we could safely sell and buy from individuals.
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