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_speedmaster_ · 6 September 2021, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by unknown

Haldimann is indeed great but unfortunately they come at a price

I was surprised at the value initially. The H11 was around $31k in steel a couple of years ago, which is a steal imho for a single watchmaker building you a watch without the use of CNC. However, seems he raised his prices and now his cheapest watch is $55k….which is a harder pill to swallow given what else that price range can yield.

_speedmaster_ · 6 September 2021, 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Becweb

Rolex, Patek and AP

I mean, technically you are right.

WatchEater666 · 22 September 2021, 04:06 PM

Filipe Pikullik lately - this is only ~$1000. Pretty cool.

kunlun · 22 September 2021, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchEater666

Filipe Pikullik lately - this is only ~$1000. Pretty cool.

There's a live shot on watchprosite that gives a less flattering, maybe more real look at it. It's good for the price for sure.

harrison_cheng · 22 September 2021, 11:39 PM

Krayon-anywhere and everywhere. A talented youny watchmaker.
watch out his debut- only watch- such an artistic watch I have not seen for a long time.

hankae · 22 September 2021, 11:52 PM

L & H is on par with anything super high end but for a fraction of the price.

WatchEater666 · 23 September 2021, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kunlun

There's a live shot on watchprosite that gives a less flattering, maybe more real look at it. It's good for the price for sure.

Live shot?

RoscoPico · 23 September 2021, 06:23 AM

I love that watches are in right now and there is so much going on with independents.
Too bad though that many come along with a hefty price tag.
Can you imagine if we were all just chasing the "usual" brands, puke

RoscoPico · 23 September 2021, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by unknown

Just wondering ...

For me a lot changed when talking about independents. I mean ... Journe is still my favorite brand and that will probably not change. But When buying a Journe today you don't get a piece he made. He works with dozens of watchmakers.
And so do Voutilainen and almost all the others. Even RW Smith has quite some watchmakers working for him.

All great watches but isn't it even better when the watch you get is the watch made by the man who's name is on the dial ?

This is why I love Florent Lecomte, Pascal Coyon, Chritian Lass.

So I would like to see more go these in this thread instead of the Parmiginani, Journe, Voutilainen, Grossman, Czapek, Greubel, Forsey ...
They are independent because the do not belong to a big group ... but they are so different from these individuals.

Maybe we need another name than 'independent'

How do the call the ultra small brands where the watchmaker himself makes YOUR watch.

great point. I took my first leaps away from the usual suspects with my GS, ALS, and Moser. I have yet to venture further out but I am very interested

kunlun · 23 September 2021, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchEater666

Filipe Pikullik lately - this is only ~$1000. Pretty cool.

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Originally Posted by WatchEater666

Live shot?

By a living human!
Yeah, the movement looks much less well finished.

kunlun · 23 September 2021, 01:27 PM

Anyone know what Pascal Coyon is charging for a new watch nowadays?

Costa Rakaro · 23 September 2021, 09:58 PM

Given this level of excellence and performance standards, the price of the Calibre Chronomètre 19 is well above that of the Calibre Chronomètre 1900. The prices are 30,500 euros excluding VAT for the versions in white or pink gold and 39,500 euros without tax in platinum. Of course, these prices are revised if specific requests are made like an enamel dial. When I discovered the watches and the 19 calibre, I had no doubt about the relevance of this price level. The watches are perfectly crafted and animated by an exceptional calibre that I consider one of the most beautiful hand-wound movements available today.

Costa Rakaro · 23 September 2021, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Costa Rakaro

Given this level of excellence and performance standards, the price of the Calibre Chronomètre 19 is well above that of the Calibre Chronomètre 1900. The prices are 30,500 euros excluding VAT for the versions in white or pink gold and 39,500 euros without tax in platinum. Of course, these prices are revised if specific requests are made like an enamel dial. When I discovered the watches and the 19 calibre, I had no doubt about the relevance of this price level. The watches are perfectly crafted and animated by an exceptional calibre that I consider one of the most beautiful hand-wound movements available today.

credit FX Whatchprosite

Costa Rakaro · 23 September 2021, 10:17 PM

Caliber 1900 , just went crazy on chrono 24 : 33 403 €

WatchEater666 · 23 September 2021, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Costa Rakaro

Caliber 1900 , just went crazy on chrono 24 : 33 403 €

Makes zero sense given his new watch is less than that and objectively better.

kunlun · 24 September 2021, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Costa Rakaro

Given this level of excellence and performance standards, the price of the Calibre Chronomètre 19 is well above that of the Calibre Chronomètre 1900. The prices are 30,500 euros excluding VAT for the versions in white or pink gold and 39,500 euros without tax in platinum today.

Gracias!

harrison_cheng · 26 September 2021, 02:39 PM

Roger W. Smith

WatchEater666 · 5 November 2021, 12:22 AM

Bump

Longhorn · 5 November 2021, 12:54 AM

Interested in seeing the next MAD creation from Max Busser next year. Along that line are there any other indie watchmakers that are re-tooling how time can be displayed? MB&F, Urwerk are of course the high-end spectrum, anything more mid tier?

goog53 · 5 November 2021, 02:35 AM

Petermann Bédat

WatchEater666 · 17 December 2021, 06:25 PM

Ttt

edhahn44 · 20 February 2022, 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by _speedmaster_

I was surprised at the value initially. The H11 was around $31k in steel a couple of years ago, which is a steal imho for a single watchmaker building you a watch without the use of CNC. However, seems he raised his prices and now his cheapest watch is $55k….which is a harder pill to swallow given what else that price range can yield.

Does anybody have ownership experience with a Haldimann? Really like the new H12 steel.
How to buy them? Just drop him an email?

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beshannon · 20 February 2022, 05:45 AM

Czapek, Gronefeld, Laine, Dornbluth

kunlun · 20 February 2022, 07:21 AM

This is turning out to be an expensive thread for me.

I've been in touch with Pascal Coyon and he has been very nice to work with.

_speedmaster_ · 21 February 2022, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by edhahn44

Does anybody have ownership experience with a Haldimann? Really like the new H12 steel.
How to buy them? Just drop him an email?

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I'm strongly considering a h12 myself. I'll say this, not very responsive via email.

ILoveFerrari · 21 February 2022, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by uscmatt99

I've always been drawn to Armin Strom. They seem to be one of the few other manufactures other than FPJ to execute the resonance complication. That it is open worked adds something to the watch if that's up your alley.

Yes, there are actually three. Haldimann for the flying resonance.

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mongrelnomoad · 21 February 2022, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Costa Rakaro

Given this level of excellence and performance standards, the price of the Calibre Chronomètre 19 is well above that of the Calibre Chronomètre 1900. The prices are 30,500 euros excluding VAT for the versions in white or pink gold and 39,500 euros without tax in platinum. Of course, these prices are revised if specific requests are made like an enamel dial. When I discovered the watches and the 19 calibre, I had no doubt about the relevance of this price level. The watches are perfectly crafted and animated by an exceptional calibre that I consider one of the most beautiful hand-wound movements available today.

That's pretty reasonable considering the amount of work put in. His watches are sensational.

mongrelnomoad · 21 February 2022, 07:12 PM

I've been keeping an eye on Atelier de Chronométre in Barcelona. Seem to be really stretching themselves constantly, and producing absolutely gorgeous and unusual watches.

Nav01L · 21 February 2022, 07:55 PM

You have to subscribe to his aesthetics, which I don’t really do, but if so, there’s no arguing with the quality Phillipe Narbel will give you. If you want hand made, that’s hand made. And he’s a lovely person too, from what little interaction I’ve had with him.

ILoveFerrari · 21 February 2022, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by _speedmaster_

I'm strongly considering a h12 myself. I'll say this, not very responsive via email.

same as Roger Smith. I know the book is closed, but I emailed him anyway, because I decided to spread out from Kari (2 coming in) But no reply!

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5 November 2021, 02:35 AM	#50
goog53 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: Mike G Location: Ohio Watch: Rolex-Patek-AP Posts: 3,074	Petermann Bédat __________________ The only thing better than the watches are the people behind them. "The best watch in the world is the one that's on your wrist." Morgan King "Do you like having a good time? Then you need a good watch!" Rocky Balboa

20 February 2022, 05:45 AM	#53
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	Czapek, Gronefeld, Laine, Dornbluth __________________ Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

21 February 2022, 07:55 PM	#59
Nav01L "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Fred Location: Zurich Posts: 2,697	You have to subscribe to his aesthetics, which I don’t really do, but if so, there’s no arguing with the quality Phillipe Narbel will give you. If you want hand made, that’s hand made. And he’s a lovely person too, from what little interaction I’ve had with him. __________________ Greetings from Switzerland Remember, the dignity you surrender at your AD‘s doorstep will never be recovered by wearing the watch he may get you.

22 September 2021, 04:06 PM	#33
WatchEater666 Banned Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,940	Filipe Pikullik lately - this is only ~$1000. Pretty cool.

22 September 2021, 11:39 PM	#35
harrison_cheng "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Taipei Posts: 103	Krayon-anywhere and everywhere. A talented youny watchmaker. watch out his debut- only watch- such an artistic watch I have not seen for a long time.

23 September 2021, 06:23 AM	#38
RoscoPico "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Real Name: Chris Location: USA Watch: ingMe,WatchingYou. Posts: 1,462	I love that watches are in right now and there is so much going on with independents. Too bad though that many come along with a hefty price tag. Can you imagine if we were all just chasing the "usual" brands, puke

23 September 2021, 01:27 PM	#41
kunlun "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,964	Anyone know what Pascal Coyon is charging for a new watch nowadays?

23 September 2021, 09:58 PM	#42
Costa Rakaro "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Real Name: Christian Location: france Watch: The next Posts: 201	Given this level of excellence and performance standards, the price of the Calibre Chronomètre 19 is well above that of the Calibre Chronomètre 1900. The prices are 30,500 euros excluding VAT for the versions in white or pink gold and 39,500 euros without tax in platinum. Of course, these prices are revised if specific requests are made like an enamel dial. When I discovered the watches and the 19 calibre, I had no doubt about the relevance of this price level. The watches are perfectly crafted and animated by an exceptional calibre that I consider one of the most beautiful hand-wound movements available today.

23 September 2021, 10:17 PM	#44
Costa Rakaro "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2018 Real Name: Christian Location: france Watch: The next Posts: 201	Caliber 1900 , just went crazy on chrono 24 : 33 403 €

26 September 2021, 02:39 PM	#47
harrison_cheng "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Taipei Posts: 103	Roger W. Smith

5 November 2021, 12:22 AM	#48
WatchEater666 Banned Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,940	Bump

5 November 2021, 12:54 AM	#49
Longhorn "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Austin, Texas Watch: HULK SMASH Posts: 584	Interested in seeing the next MAD creation from Max Busser next year. Along that line are there any other indie watchmakers that are re-tooling how time can be displayed? MB&F, Urwerk are of course the high-end spectrum, anything more mid tier?

17 December 2021, 06:25 PM	#51
WatchEater666 Banned Join Date: Oct 2019 Location: Vancouver Posts: 1,940	Ttt

20 February 2022, 07:21 AM	#54
kunlun "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,964	This is turning out to be an expensive thread for me. I've been in touch with Pascal Coyon and he has been very nice to work with.

21 February 2022, 07:12 PM	#58
mongrelnomoad 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: Here and there... Posts: 1,889	I've been keeping an eye on Atelier de Chronométre in Barcelona. Seem to be really stretching themselves constantly, and producing absolutely gorgeous and unusual watches.

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