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jimcameron · 9 March 2018, 09:24 PM

I believe the Auction house was very skillful in marketing that watch. Many, many, VN veterans purchased the GMT or Sub at a PX (Post Exchange) during that time period. There are thousands out there. PX prices were in the $225-$275 price range depending on the year. I can think of at least 5 other guys I still know that have theirs.

Mick8moses · 9 March 2018, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jimcameron

I believe the Auction house was very skillful in marketing that watch. Many, many, VN veterans purchased the GMT or Sub at a PX (Post Exchange) during that time period. There are thousands out there. PX prices were in the $225-$275 price range depending on the year. I can think of at least 5 other guys I still know that have theirs.

Agree. Honestly it's "cool" and all, but it's beat up, the original band is gone, he wasn't famous, so unless he was in my family tree I wouldn't pay over $4k US for it.
Now if he had notched verified kills in it...

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GeeRam · 10 March 2018, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mick8moses

Agree. Honestly it's "cool" and all, but it's beat up, the original band is gone, he wasn't famous, so unless he was in my family tree I wouldn't pay over $4k US for it.
Now if he had notched verified kills in it...

Ex-Aussie SAS Vietnam vet......given their reputation in theatre, probably not enough space on the case to do that.

Cool watch, cool story, and a perfect example of when people saw such a Rolex as a tough tool watch rather than an bling investment piece of jewellery.

Flier · 10 March 2018, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by blueatlantic

It's had a rough life, but it's got tons of character. I respect that others may disagree, but I'd personally prefer it over a new 116610 ceramic.

Its a history book of its own
It would be a crime to polish

B747 · 10 March 2018, 06:01 AM

Great story!

SeaDweller50 · 10 March 2018, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by grimps

Looks like he’s wearing an SAS beret in that photo too so I’d expect he and his watch saw a little action

Australian SF. Not quite the same as UKSF.

polaris72 · 10 March 2018, 06:50 AM

Cool story, thank you for sharing.

Wiener48 · 10 March 2018, 07:11 AM

You are welcome ;-)

dhknola · 10 March 2018, 07:34 AM

Full kit and great story...I think the watch was bargain! Case is certainly unique, but far from mundane!

Reddy_Kilowatt · 10 March 2018, 07:35 AM

Wow.

The Libertine · 10 March 2018, 07:57 AM

Great article! Thank you for posting the link.

SeaAndSky · 11 March 2018, 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

He found useful purpose for all that blank metal space. Although he’s no Bram Ramon, I’m thinking the detractors will never understand the “why”.

We understand why he did that. We also understand that aside from any sentimental value to the gentleman who did the “engraving” that there is zero value added to anyone else not related to him. Furthermore, a whole lot of value has been removed from the watch with the bery unpleasing engraving.

Justinmg · 11 March 2018, 03:27 AM

That watch should be in the hands of the family, other then sentimental value, no interest. Cool story though.

77T · 11 March 2018, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by 77T

I’m thinking the detractors will never understand...

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Originally Posted by SeaAndSky

We understand why he did that.

Care to elaborate on your understanding of “why he did that”?

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GMT Aviator · 11 March 2018, 09:11 AM

It’s not the first time and won’t be the last where a ‘war’ story has been used to bid up the value.
The engraving means nothing to anyone except the owner and the family and regards the provenance it gives the piece, doesn’t even mean to say the watch went to war, it’s also utterly ruined the case and to my eye what the watch is worth.
The fact someone was stupid enough to pay $10k for it comes down to clever marketing.

Wiener48 · 11 March 2018, 09:19 AM

Interesting how different the opinions are, but that's what makes it so interesting in a forum like this here.

Go on guys...

SeaAndSky · 11 March 2018, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by 77T

Care to elaborate on your understanding of “why he did that”?

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No.

NYCWATCHCREW · 12 March 2018, 12:50 PM

Awesome story. Awesome watch. Awesome Rolex.

Wiener48 · 31 January 2019, 01:36 PM

Great comments on this thread, agree with most of them, highly rare pice of history and a fantastic conditioned watch on top!

The story of this watch goes on, stay tuned for more soon...

1675-David · 31 January 2019, 05:01 PM

Cool!

Jimmy Jam Jam · 31 January 2019, 05:47 PM

Love the story behind it, you can almost imagine the moment he was just hacking away at the case, everyone has their own opinion you either like it or you dont xD , mine would be i love the whole story behind the watch, the intent behind the engraving, i mean back then who would care about wearing some bling bling, that watch has been through a heck of a lot and seen a lots of things

Just my two cents though, i like this :)

Styles Bitchley · 31 January 2019, 09:41 PM

I agree with both perspectives here. It’s cool to have the period engraving. It pulls you into the moment when this was a bad ass tool on the wrist of a bad ass soldier that terrible war.

At the same time, a a time piece, I think it’s trashed. It’s an interesting memento, but I’d think more valuables a military collector than a watch enthusiast.

What I can’t understand is why he would carve it in on both SIDES of the case. Okay, maybe the case back if you are worried about needing to ID it, but the sides also? I can’t see a rational reason for that...

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Tom1675 · 1 February 2019, 12:49 AM

Now that's unpolished! Personally, I like the history and agree the seller would have done better at one of the larger auction houses.

Wiener48 · 1 February 2019, 04:30 AM

Agree, totaly wrong Auctionhouse. This watch at Phillips in one of the big auctions would be a star.

But, as also saied, its an unpolished case, watch tells it story, this is what I like and, on top with original papers.

Watch will pop up soon ;-)

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Originally Posted by Tom1675

Now that's unpolished! Personally, I like the history and agree the seller would have done better at one of the larger auction houses.

timnik · 1 February 2019, 06:58 AM

My GMT turns 50 years old this year...

It was my dads..

He wasn't SAS but he was 17 years in the Royal Corps of Signals, British Army..

He told me GMT's and Subs were very popular with servicemen..

storm66 · 2 February 2019, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by SeaDweller50

Australian SF. Not quite the same as UKSF.

SeaDweller50 · 2 February 2019, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by storm66

Are you ex Military, serving?

john wick · 3 February 2019, 04:41 AM

when arrive the watch from Sala/Chri...you Sir???

read the appearance month ago in the german forum.

STEELINOX · 3 February 2019, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by blueatlantic

It's had a rough life, but it's got tons of character. I respect that others may disagree, but I'd personally prefer it over a new 116610 ceramic.

me too !

Wiener48 · 3 February 2019, 06:18 AM

What is a thread about a watch like this without pics. Here you can see the quality of tue case and dial.

Enjoy, more are following

11 March 2018, 03:27 AM	#43
Justinmg "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Justin Location: FL Watch: PO/EXPL Posts: 3,371	That watch should be in the hands of the family, other then sentimental value, no interest. Cool story though. __________________ //////////////////////////////// Member of The Nylon Nation Does it do anything? It tells the time.

9 March 2018, 09:24 PM	#31
jimcameron "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ByDawns Earlylite Watch: 16800 Posts: 3,580	I believe the Auction house was very skillful in marketing that watch. Many, many, VN veterans purchased the GMT or Sub at a PX (Post Exchange) during that time period. There are thousands out there. PX prices were in the $225-$275 price range depending on the year. I can think of at least 5 other guys I still know that have theirs.

10 March 2018, 06:01 AM	#35
B747 "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: istanbul Posts: 12	Great story!

10 March 2018, 06:50 AM	#37
polaris72 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: U.S./Vienna, AT Posts: 1,967	Cool story, thank you for sharing.

10 March 2018, 07:11 AM	#38
Wiener48 Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Vienna Posts: 1,299	You are welcome ;-)

10 March 2018, 07:34 AM	#39
dhknola "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: New Orleans Posts: 1,174	Full kit and great story...I think the watch was bargain! Case is certainly unique, but far from mundane!

10 March 2018, 07:35 AM	#40
Reddy_Kilowatt "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: NW USA Watch: 16220 & 216570 Posts: 392	Wow.

10 March 2018, 07:57 AM	#41
The Libertine Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Mike Location: BOS Watch: 16710;14060;214270 Posts: 6,375	Great article! Thank you for posting the link.

11 March 2018, 09:11 AM	#45
GMT Aviator 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: London Posts: 3,308	It’s not the first time and won’t be the last where a ‘war’ story has been used to bid up the value. The engraving means nothing to anyone except the owner and the family and regards the provenance it gives the piece, doesn’t even mean to say the watch went to war, it’s also utterly ruined the case and to my eye what the watch is worth. The fact someone was stupid enough to pay $10k for it comes down to clever marketing.

11 March 2018, 09:19 AM	#46
Wiener48 Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Vienna Posts: 1,299	Interesting how different the opinions are, but that's what makes it so interesting in a forum like this here. Go on guys...

12 March 2018, 12:50 PM	#48
NYCWATCHCREW "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Real Name: Robert Location: Long Island NY Watch: The Hulk Posts: 823	Awesome story. Awesome watch. Awesome Rolex.

31 January 2019, 01:36 PM	#49
Wiener48 Banned Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Vienna Posts: 1,299	Great comments on this thread, agree with most of them, highly rare pice of history and a fantastic conditioned watch on top! The story of this watch goes on, stay tuned for more soon...

31 January 2019, 05:01 PM	#50
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,060	Cool!

31 January 2019, 05:47 PM	#51
Jimmy Jam Jam "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Real Name: James Location: Hong Kong Watch: Bleu/Noir Posts: 185	Love the story behind it, you can almost imagine the moment he was just hacking away at the case, everyone has their own opinion you either like it or you dont xD , mine would be i love the whole story behind the watch, the intent behind the engraving, i mean back then who would care about wearing some bling bling, that watch has been through a heck of a lot and seen a lots of things Just my two cents though, i like this :)

31 January 2019, 09:41 PM	#52
Styles Bitchley "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Canada Watch: 1680 Posts: 1,398	I agree with both perspectives here. It’s cool to have the period engraving. It pulls you into the moment when this was a bad ass tool on the wrist of a bad ass soldier that terrible war. At the same time, a a time piece, I think it’s trashed. It’s an interesting memento, but I’d think more valuables a military collector than a watch enthusiast. What I can’t understand is why he would carve it in on both SIDES of the case. Okay, maybe the case back if you are worried about needing to ID it, but the sides also? I can’t see a rational reason for that... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

1 February 2019, 12:49 AM	#53
Tom1675 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Real Name: Tom Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,185	Now that's unpolished! Personally, I like the history and agree the seller would have done better at one of the larger auction houses.

1 February 2019, 06:58 AM	#55
timnik "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Cambridge UK Posts: 120	My GMT turns 50 years old this year... It was my dads.. He wasn't SAS but he was 17 years in the Royal Corps of Signals, British Army.. He told me GMT's and Subs were very popular with servicemen..

3 February 2019, 04:41 AM	#58
john wick "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: millvalley Posts: 71	when arrive the watch from Sala/Chri...you Sir??? read the appearance month ago in the german forum.

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