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stevenrobinson · 28 October 2009, 10:02 AM

what you mean when you say that the PAM will be there when there are considerably fewer PAMs when compared to Rolex Seadwellers????? Please enlighten.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tombstone

I agree with the SD all but gone you may not get the chance to buy another. The PAM will be there.

dalip · 28 October 2009, 12:20 PM

do not get rid of a Rolex for a PAM IMO...save and have both

johnswatch · 2 November 2009, 01:57 PM

Thanks for all the input guys.

I had been undecided but wearing the SD this weekend made my mind up. It pains me to let it go but I just can't get comfortable with it.

I visited a Panerai AD today and (despite the terrible service and sales attitude of their staff) I tried on the 312.....

Very nice. The 50's case wears a lot larger than the 44mm regular Luminor case.

The SD is now listed for sale (or possible trade)

Proces on SD's have really bottomed and the 312 at AUD $8,300 is pretty steep but it's probably worth the extra few $.

I'll keep you posted....

Joey_V · 2 November 2009, 06:39 PM

Glad you decided on the 312... once you put one on, it just fits perfectly for most people. :)

johnswatch · 3 November 2009, 02:30 PM

Okay.....so I went to the AD with the intention of purchasing a 312.

The staff are incredible. Rude and had no idea about selling.

I queried whether their price was negotiable and they simply looked at me and said no. Take it or leave it. Quite literally.

I'd at least expected to be told 'we'd love to but....' and waxed lyrical about the finer qualities of the watch. The salesperson was actually reading the watch features out of the catalogue.

Annoyed, I popped into another AD and looked at a 112.

The staff couldn't be more helpful and really tried to sell me the watch but without undue pressure. Even offered a decent price (for a dealer) on my SD as a trade in.

Now I really do prefer the brushed finish of the 312 but the extra $2500 is quite steep. Had the staff been helpful in the first store I'd now be worrying about telling my wife I'd just bought a 312. Now I'm tempted to get a 112 because of the far superior service.

If I go for the 312...am I making a mistake? It would burn to give my hard-earned to the slackers in the other store....

stevenrobinson · 3 November 2009, 02:51 PM

nt

RedBaronF2001 · 3 November 2009, 03:06 PM

The 112 is a fantastic piece from the historic collection. The 312 represents Panerai's new direction. You can't go wrong with either. Is it worth the extra money to go to the 312? Only you can decide.

johnswatch · 3 November 2009, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedBaronF2001

The 112 is a fantastic piece from the historic collection. The 312 represents Panerai's new direction. You can't go wrong with either. Is it worth the extra money to go to the 312? Only you can decide.

...but I can't decide.

That's the problem.

If the 112 was brushed rather than polished I'd go for it in an instant. Having the 112 brushed would probably kill the resale dead due to the number of really good fakes and 'homages' out there.

Max · 3 November 2009, 05:15 PM

Can you find another AD? Watches are commodity items, I'd never buy any such item from a dealer that was rude or uninformed. There are plenty of Panerai dealers on other watch forums selling new 312s at nice prices. Buy the one you want, not the one that is easiest to get from a better AD.

Watch Fan · 3 November 2009, 05:33 PM

I bought my 312 a couple of months ago and couldn't be happier with it. Only you can decide which one you want, but I can tell you that the 312 is "worth the effort". Always get the one you really want and you won't go wrong.

Joey_V · 3 November 2009, 05:36 PM

Hey!

When I was in Maui, there was a dealer (reputable) with the 312 in stock. This was approximately 3 days ago. If you want, I can give you the name and number of the salesman and he can ship it out to you.

dantheman20192 · 3 November 2009, 06:54 PM

I have a 312(from oscar(bodybump_amazing to deal with), deep sea, 6263 and a submariner LV. I was originally going to trade the LV but i received the 312 and to be honest you have to have both. I would be lost without a rolex as a backup slash everyday wear. You need atleast 2 watches and the sub and 312 compliment each other so well its awesome. Keep the SD and save to get a pam imo.

johnswatch · 3 November 2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dantheman20192

I have a 312...Keep the SD and save to get a pam imo.

Not an option.

No point keeping the SD if I never wear it, as much as I like to look at it.

I've already got a datejust to wear with a suit and an Oris diver as a beater so I can't really justify keeping the SD.

Theother factor in the 112 vs 312 debate is the size of the 312. The 112 would (I feel) go better with a shirt and tie than the 312......

This is going to run and run........until I cave in and buy one.

dantheman20192 · 3 November 2009, 08:42 PM

Fair enough well. Get a 312 i thought it would be huge but its a beauty. Get it....Get it now.

RedBaronF2001 · 3 November 2009, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnswatch

Not an option.

No point keeping the SD if I never wear it, as much as I like to look at it.

I've already got a datejust to wear with a suit and an Oris diver as a beater so I can't really justify keeping the SD.

Theother factor in the 112 vs 312 debate is the size of the 312. The 112 would (I feel) go better with a shirt and tie than the 312......

This is going to run and run........until I cave in and buy one.

The 112 would be slightly easier to manage under a dress shirt. This is true. Although the 112 is polished all the way around it is easy to remove the small hairline marks it will receive from daily use. Plus, scratches add character.

Joey_V · 4 November 2009, 01:51 AM

Like I said, Baron and Leeds has a 312... Ship internationally and nontax. Plus they double your warranty.

Three one two...

Noonan · 4 November 2009, 02:13 AM

If you like the brushed look of the 312 and the price of a 112, how bout a Ti 176? Shouldn't be too much more than the 112.

dantheman20192 · 5 November 2009, 11:35 PM

i read your other thread you paid way to much for a 112, someone saw you coming rofl..

johnswatch · 6 November 2009, 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dantheman20192

i read your other thread you paid way to much for a 112, someone saw you coming rofl..

I didn't actually state exactly how much I paid. I paid less than list...but not much.

Are our bank accounts somehow linked? I'll get on to my employer and get that fixed.

Are you aware of Aussie dealers selling for more than 10% under list?

I'm so lucky I'ver got people like you to put me straight. Thanks.

Whilst we're at it did I overpay for my other watches? What about my house?

Any investment tips? I've got some great Spanish RMBS you may be interested in.

28 October 2009, 12:20 PM	#32
dalip "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Dalip Location: Mumbai and Perth Watch: Rolex PAM Omega Posts: 18,656	do not get rid of a Rolex for a PAM IMO...save and have both __________________ ------------------------------------------------------------ *"The liar's punishment is not in the least that he is not believed, but that he cannot believe anyone else." George Bernard Shaw*

2 November 2009, 01:57 PM	#33
johnswatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: in a dream world Posts: 488	I've made a decision... Thanks for all the input guys. I had been undecided but wearing the SD this weekend made my mind up. It pains me to let it go but I just can't get comfortable with it. I visited a Panerai AD today and (despite the terrible service and sales attitude of their staff) I tried on the 312..... Very nice. The 50's case wears a lot larger than the 44mm regular Luminor case. The SD is now listed for sale (or possible trade) Proces on SD's have really bottomed and the 312 at AUD $8,300 is pretty steep but it's probably worth the extra few $. I'll keep you posted.... __________________ 18k GMTIIc, II,16013 DJ, PAM 112, Patek ref 96J, Helson Bronze, Elgin Trench, Gruen Curvex, Omega F300 and a few others......

2 November 2009, 06:39 PM	#34
Joey_V "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Joey Location: Dallas, TX Watch: SS Sub 16610 M Posts: 3,824	Glad you decided on the 312... once you put one on, it just fits perfectly for most people. :) __________________ Current Rotation: Rolex Submariner Date (M) - 1/08, Rolex Milgauss GV (V) - 2/10, Rolex SS Black Daytona (V) - 6/10, Rolex GMTIIC (G) - 5/11, TAG Heuer Silverstone (286/1860) - 1/2015 Former-watches: Omega PO/2535.80/2254, TAG Carrera/F1x2/Monaco, Panerai 312K/292L Wish List: Panerai 270/505, Rolex SMURF, Rolex RG Daytona, Rolex DSSD

3 November 2009, 02:30 PM	#35
johnswatch "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: in a dream world Posts: 488	Okay.....so I went to the AD with the intention of purchasing a 312. The staff are incredible. Rude and had no idea about selling. I queried whether their price was negotiable and they simply looked at me and said no. Take it or leave it. Quite literally. I'd at least expected to be told 'we'd love to but....' and waxed lyrical about the finer qualities of the watch. The salesperson was actually reading the watch features out of the catalogue. Annoyed, I popped into another AD and looked at a 112. The staff couldn't be more helpful and really tried to sell me the watch but without undue pressure. Even offered a decent price (for a dealer) on my SD as a trade in. Now I really do prefer the brushed finish of the 312 but the extra $2500 is quite steep. Had the staff been helpful in the first store I'd now be worrying about telling my wife I'd just bought a 312. Now I'm tempted to get a 112 because of the far superior service. If I go for the 312...am I making a mistake? It would burn to give my hard-earned to the slackers in the other store.... __________________ 18k GMTIIc, II,16013 DJ, PAM 112, Patek ref 96J, Helson Bronze, Elgin Trench, Gruen Curvex, Omega F300 and a few others...... Last edited by johnswatch; 3 November 2009 at 03:41 PM.. Reason: terry bill speling!

3 November 2009, 02:51 PM	#36
stevenrobinson Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Steven Location: Florida Watch: 1) Rolex TT Dayton Posts: 193	Yes, Yes, Yes. nt

3 November 2009, 03:06 PM	#37
RedBaronF2001 Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 575	The 112 is a fantastic piece from the historic collection. The 312 represents Panerai's new direction. You can't go wrong with either. Is it worth the extra money to go to the 312? Only you can decide.

3 November 2009, 05:15 PM	#39
Max Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 161	Can you find another AD? Watches are commodity items, I'd never buy any such item from a dealer that was rude or uninformed. There are plenty of Panerai dealers on other watch forums selling new 312s at nice prices. Buy the one you want, not the one that is easiest to get from a better AD.

3 November 2009, 05:33 PM	#40
Watch Fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Watch: Sea Dweller Posts: 676	I bought my 312 a couple of months ago and couldn't be happier with it. Only you can decide which one you want, but I can tell you that the 312 is "worth the effort". Always get the one you really want and you won't go wrong.

3 November 2009, 05:36 PM	#41
Joey_V "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Joey Location: Dallas, TX Watch: SS Sub 16610 M Posts: 3,824	Hey! When I was in Maui, there was a dealer (reputable) with the 312 in stock. This was approximately 3 days ago. If you want, I can give you the name and number of the salesman and he can ship it out to you. __________________ Current Rotation: Rolex Submariner Date (M) - 1/08, Rolex Milgauss GV (V) - 2/10, Rolex SS Black Daytona (V) - 6/10, Rolex GMTIIC (G) - 5/11, TAG Heuer Silverstone (286/1860) - 1/2015 Former-watches: Omega PO/2535.80/2254, TAG Carrera/F1x2/Monaco, Panerai 312K/292L Wish List: Panerai 270/505, Rolex SMURF, Rolex RG Daytona, Rolex DSSD

3 November 2009, 06:54 PM	#42
dantheman20192 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: Gold Coast Posts: 64	I have a 312(from oscar(bodybump_amazing to deal with), deep sea, 6263 and a submariner LV. I was originally going to trade the LV but i received the 312 and to be honest you have to have both. I would be lost without a rolex as a backup slash everyday wear. You need atleast 2 watches and the sub and 312 compliment each other so well its awesome. Keep the SD and save to get a pam imo.

3 November 2009, 08:42 PM	#44
dantheman20192 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: Gold Coast Posts: 64	Fair enough well. Get a 312 i thought it would be huge but its a beauty. Get it....Get it now.

4 November 2009, 01:51 AM	#46
Joey_V "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Joey Location: Dallas, TX Watch: SS Sub 16610 M Posts: 3,824	Like I said, Baron and Leeds has a 312... Ship internationally and nontax. Plus they double your warranty. Three one two... __________________ Current Rotation: Rolex Submariner Date (M) - 1/08, Rolex Milgauss GV (V) - 2/10, Rolex SS Black Daytona (V) - 6/10, Rolex GMTIIC (G) - 5/11, TAG Heuer Silverstone (286/1860) - 1/2015 Former-watches: Omega PO/2535.80/2254, TAG Carrera/F1x2/Monaco, Panerai 312K/292L Wish List: Panerai 270/505, Rolex SMURF, Rolex RG Daytona, Rolex DSSD

4 November 2009, 02:13 AM	#47
Noonan Banned Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: US Watch: 3570.50 Posts: 2,156	If you like the brushed look of the 312 and the price of a 112, how bout a Ti 176? Shouldn't be too much more than the 112.

5 November 2009, 11:35 PM	#48
dantheman20192 Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Real Name: Dan Location: Gold Coast Posts: 64	i read your other thread you paid way to much for a 112, someone saw you coming rofl..

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