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I whole heartedly believe the ‘Blueberry’ is real, look how Rolex deliberately/mistakenly release certain oddities, APH DIAL on a Daytona, Flat 4 Kermit, Tropical dials that reacted to the sun - along with around 1999 the Bluesy dial that had a purple hue to it for two years / Spider dials …
So yes, 100% Rolex got a ‘blueberry’ out there .. the mystique is the all the fun too ..
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That’s what I felt too but I don’t feel confident enough to judge these hands as I never took the time to deep dive into this matter.
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A T L A N T I S on a bracelet…..
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I do understand what you’re saying. You’re talking about dials that are known to have come from Rolex…odd/curious as they may be. But blueberry inserts are NOT known to have come from Rolex, there’s no literature or reference material from Rolex supporting them, and they only showed up many years after the watches they allegedly came on were made. There’s nothing suggesting they were ever sold by Rolex.
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to quote Xeramic, Rolex insert guru and vintage Rolex expert of the highest rank, from a thread over at TRF discussing the Blueberry insert:
It's not about belief or open questions - those inserts are proven fakes; proven by the wrong slug seen with so many other fakes, proven by the extra weak on-top printing which no other Rolex insert had in almost seventy years; further, as discussed here in detail, the whole thing makes zero sense: the story around did always change, funny tales about Cartier, UAE, prototypes; no traces of a blue GMT insert (except for blueish faded black - different story) before of the Millennium; no Rolex document about, no picture, no part number; no honest patina, either they are like new (because they are...) or got uniformly and artificially aged; "findings" of these "super rare" watches increase steadily parallel to the hype - and not a single piece could ever got tracked down to the 70's from when it allegedly comes. Any who still believes in these after reading this thread has my full compassion; and in 2022, no dealer can say he missed the discussions on the forums and on the social media channels. Its now 2024 and "reputable dealers" are still flogging these to the deluded, the weak of mind and the flat earth brigade for a massive premium ![]() |
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Flat Earth ? Really …
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Just curious, and respectfully: why is it important to you to believe they’re real? Academic debate aside, why do you need them to be real without any proof from Rolex whatsoever?
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Hahaha .. yeah I’m old so bold font .. my bad .. (not sure what’s wrong with bold text though), yes I’m a general poster, I don’t have a great depth of knowledge most vintage followers will, I do have the right to an opinion though .. wishful thinking, maybe ..
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Just a broad observation echoing much above. TRF and VRF are sites that buyers (and many dealers I know) use to confirm pieces.
There's really no room for hunches and/or agendas (like the dilettante collector propagated with his Texas Dial manual Exotic dial Daytonas a few years ago - 'cos he'd got lumbered with one).... as for a short time it legitimised these fake dials, and as a result other non mega-clued up types reading these old TRF posts/and his waffling nonsense etc, might have disastrously bought one! As we all know hunches, wishful thinking and theories are often off running round the world, before the facts/knowledge has got its shoes on!
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Wouldn't sending one of these into RSC settle the debate once and for all? Send to RSC, get a quote for work recommended, decline work. Get watch back. Debate settled. If watch isn't returned without the insert it's because it's not genuine? In 25 years plus no one has done this? Why not?
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There was a story that 200 blueberry inserts were "stolen from Rolex" circa 2000 and shopped to dealers. I find that story a bit to convenient as it prevents authentication.
Along these lines, best case they're stolen inserts, worst case fraudulent inserts? |
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There is no “best case” when fake parts are concerned.
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If they were stolen from Rolex, wouldn't Rolex confiscate them when they were given to service? Some AD's do that when watches are just reported stolen.
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Sounds like another concocted story regarding the blueberry. Why would anyone steal them. They had no value to anyone 25-years-ago except as a novelty.
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I bought a blue insert for the fun of it… I understand the confusion regarding the “blueberry”, I have no idea if they are real or not, but they sure do look good. It would be kinda neat if they were, but i doubt it, Regardless its a cool twist on a classic, and it okay if folks take it half hearted, and have fun with topic. It hurts nobody if taken in the pure spirit of a hobby. Cheers, Jim
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if these are in fact real, why wouldn't Rolex simply comment if they are real or not. there hasn't been any situation in where someone had the original receipt, box, papers for a blueberry? and even if they are real, it doesn't mean all versions are of course. the fact that it's such an intrigue makes counterfeiters incentivized to fake these in relatively high volume |
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