16610LV - the MK VI dial - Newly discovered dial variance?

[strafer_kid]

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Yep, I have been using a 116610LN dial for a 16610LV watch to get the blue lume:

Great looking watch!

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by Johny

hi sam
one of the members on here ..bondtoys..I think it is, has fitted a 116610ln dial with blue lume to his 16610lv. the pics are in the modified rolex thread. johny.

Hi Jonhy,

Thanks for that too Just saw his post.

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Yep, I have been using a 116610LN dial for a 16610LV watch to get the blue lume:

Hi bondtoys,

Thanks for sharing the pics

Just curious, why would you want to use the case of the 16610LV? Is it because of the more tapered looks of previous generation of Rolex Subs? Or you were just plain naughty?

[shou.biao.kuang]

I have just realized something was amiss....

bondtoys! Where are my crown guards on the 16610LV? Apparently you are more of being naughty than took a liking to the tapered looks huh??

[Johny]

Originally Posted by shou.biao.kuang

I have just realized something was amiss....

bondtoys! Where are my crown guards on the 16610LV? Apparently you are more of being naughty than took a liking to the tapered looks huh??

[bondtoys]

Naughty or not - please ask my wife

The modification was not done only for the blue lume, I have tried to create a contemporary James Bond Submariner - a watch which James Bond should wear today instead of the Omegas.

For those interested in the project, it's all here:

http://www.ajb007.co.uk/topic/42501/...es-bond-rolex/

[shou.biao.kuang]

You have just pissed the Rolex purists off pal!

BTW, you still have the Flat 4 insert for sales?

[bondtoys]

Sorry, mate that flat 4 insert has already been sold

[TheRealPatek]

I've owned my LV for 2 years already and never knew the flat 4 was a big deal. I still dont, but I've received more interest because of it. Is it that rare?

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Sorry, mate that flat 4 insert has already been sold

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Sorry, mate that flat 4 insert has already been sold

No worry pal. Enjoy your modded LV

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by TheRealPatek

I've owned my LV for 2 years already and never knew the flat 4 was a big deal. I still dont, but I've received more interest because of it. Is it that rare?

Hi Jeff,

Yes it is rare (in the world of the 16610LV). It was spotted only on the "Y" serial till the early "F" serial of this model together with the MK 1 dial, they are the more collectable ones of this model. And it sure commands a premium on the market due to its limited supply.

[shou.biao.kuang]

Bondtoys pal,

What's with this model? I have checked through the list of sub's history and couldn't find this model.... "16610LV Big Crown"???!!!

[Johny]

Originally Posted by shou.biao.kuang

Bondtoys pal,

What's with this model? I have checked through the list of sub's history and couldn't find this model.... "16610LV Big Crown"???!!!

Only ever issued in the German market. very rare.

[SubKing]

Originally Posted by TheRealPatek

I've owned my LV for 2 years already and never knew the flat 4 was a big deal. I still dont, but I've received more interest because of it. Is it that rare?

Flat 4's are rare. But there is a difference between flat 4's. There is a MK1 Flat 4 lime green insert and then there is a MK3 flat 4 dark green insert.

The MK1 inserts will always command a higher priemium over the mk3's and mk1's and mk3's will always be worth more than mk2's 4's 5's 6's and 7's all with pointed 4's..

Less flat fours and much more pointed fours at the end of the day.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by shou.biao.kuang

Hi Peter,

Yes, I meant the "random" serial (RS). Some of us do call it "AN" serial, with "AN" being Alpha-Numeric serial.

As has been said if they are 'random' they are not 'serial'.

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by SubKing

Flat 4's are rare. But there is a difference between flat 4's. There is a MK1 Flat 4 lime green insert and then there is a MK3 flat 4 dark green insert.

The MK1 inserts will always command a higher priemium over the mk3's and mk1's and mk3's will always be worth more than mk2's 4's 5's 6's and 7's all with pointed 4's..

Less flat fours and much more pointed fours at the end of the day.

I would agree with SubKing on this. The lime green Flat 4 are the rarest of all the 16610LV's inserts, followed by the "normal (dark) green" Flat 4 insert. Find either one of these, make sure you hold on tight to it!

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by Johny

Only ever issued in the German market. very rare.

What other "rare" models do we have up there in Germany?
Show us what you've got pals...

[switi]

what is this dial i have?

[SubKing]

Originally Posted by switi

what is this dial i have?

a fake one?

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by SubKing

a fake one?

Doesn't look good to me too...

If the dial checked out right, it would have been the MKVI dial.

[GEORGE505]

Sorry it's not looking to good!!

[padi56]

Originally Posted by Johny

Only ever issued in the German market. very rare.

Got to laugh at all these LV rare dials or any other so called rare modern day Rolex.

[SubKing]

Originally Posted by padi56

Got to laugh at all these LV rare dials or any other so called rare modern day Rolex.

The Mk1 LVs seem to be selling for a premium and people are buying. Some collectors have an interest in the first year addition anniversary sub only.

As for the rest that are not considered mk1, they sell at the going rate as far as anniversary subs go but still hold their value better than any modern sub. It's an important model and in the years to come, I see the prices only going up. May take years, but I see the LV being like a red sub collectible one day.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by SubKing

The Mk1 LVs seem to be selling for a premium and people are buying. Some collectors have an interest in the first year addition anniversary sub only.

As for the rest that are not considered mk1, they sell at the going rate as far as anniversary subs go but still hold their value better than any modern sub. It's an important model and in the years to come, I see the prices only going up. May take years, but I see the LV being like a red sub collectible one day.

Dream on IMHO but myself will not be around in that time frame, yes they are selling but only to those willing to pay these premium prices.Giving the choice between a LV,or a Red Sub/ SD in my collection whether its got flat 4, round, oblong, fonts,or Mk1,2.3.4.5 dials I know what my choice would be and it would not be a LV.

[Johny]

Originally Posted by padi56

Got to laugh at all these LV rare dials or any other so called rare modern day Rolex.

produced by the bucket load peter.

[SubKing]

Originally Posted by padi56

Dream on IMHO but myself will not be around in that time frame, yes they are selling but only to those willing to pay these premium prices.Giving the choice between a LV,or a Red Sub/ SD in my collection whether its got flat 4, round, oblong, fonts,or Mk1,2.3.4.5 dials I know what my choice would be and it would not be a LV.

padi!! :

I still feel just like MK dials and inserts matter on anything vintage, i.e. 1680, 5508 etc.. font styles and first generation early examples will always be relevant in the collector world. Maybe Not by all, but by some that are purists at heart. It's definitely early to consider the LV vintage, early by 15 years at least, but currently, I am shocked to see Y and early F serials selling at the premiums that they are selling for. Seems like the trend has already been set on the early ones if we like it or not.

[sirduncs]

anything discontinued will become vintage eventually. as for rarity, well, if people are prepared to pay a premium, then that will dictate things.

i am looking forward to my LV becoming vintage in a few decades when i myself also begin turning vintage lol

duncs

[bondtoys]

Originally Posted by shou.biao.kuang

What other "rare" models do we have up there in Germany?
Show us what you've got pals...

Sam may call me naughty again , but 116710 dials fit into 16710 watches as well

Here is my latest:

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by SubKing

padi!! :

I still feel just like MK dials and inserts matter on anything vintage, i.e. 1680, 5508 etc.. font styles and first generation early examples will always be relevant in the collector world. Maybe Not by all, but by some that are purists at heart. It's definitely early to consider the LV vintage, early by 15 years at least, but currently, I am shocked to see Y and early F serials selling at the premiums that they are selling for. Seems like the trend has already been set on the early ones if we like it or not.

Prices wise, they've been climbing steadily over the years. Whether this is just a hype or not, only God knows I guess... But yes, SubKing observed rightly that the Ys and Early Fs are commanding a premium over the last 2-3 years.

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by bondtoys

Sam may call me naughty again , but 116710 dials fit into 16710 watches as well

Here is my latest:

Haha... What did you this time pal?? Mixing up the dial, modding the case again?!!

[bondtoys]

This time the modification was modest - by my standards

I only took a 116710LN dial, got rid of the green GMT MASTER II wording and made it in white and put it into a 16710.

No case modification, no added naughtiness