Tough decision: Daytona 116509 blue

[Swaye]

Originally Posted by Bluesy

I personally would much rather have the wg Daytona than the ss one. If I had the wg, I would not need the ss in my collection.

Agree. I haven't worn my 520 since I bought the 509. I'd still take a ceramic, because it has a different look, but I doubt I'd end up wearing it much. Outside of the 16710, which I love for reasons I cannot even fully express, I pretty much just wear the PMs now in my little collection.

[judson]

Originally Posted by ROLEXster

As someone already said it.

Only buy 509 and 500 at the same time.
Or you'll not likely to get the 500 afterwards.

Bundle them together to make sure you get the 500.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by SeikoBake

Does anybody see any upside pop on the blue dial however ? I know it’s not SS, but look at the blue dial AP royal oak, blue dial sky-dweller, nautilus, etc...

They are all SS, and even if a Mayer type hypes it up the price tends to fall back once people realise what has happened is not organic, like most pump and dumps.

Better to go grey on the SS Daytona if that is the watch you really want.

[Devildog]

You're getting the 116509 from your AD as cheap as you'll find one BNIB anywhere.

Its a far nicer watch for $36k than the SS white is for the "grey" price of $27.5k, IMHO.

[BaselWorld]

I could imagine that it gets discontinued next year. Since the blue dial is looking extremely nice, I see the price climbing.

[123Blueface]

Originally Posted by Bluesy

I personally would much rather have the wg Daytona than the ss one. If I had the wg, I would not need the ss in my collection.

Now having the SS and having recently tried in the WG, you are absolutely correct.
I don’t think I would ever wear the lightweight SS if I could feel that PM weight and stare at that incredible blue dial.

[DJTOSUB]

Originally Posted by superdog

3. You don't love the blue dial and you never get the chance to get the SS from your AD. Only way I would take this deal, as above, is to get them both at the same time. Otherwise, your AD is telling you it will get you "closer". Okay, great.... 7 years instead of 10.

Lot of possibilities. How about...

4. You love the blue dial 509 and end up getting the 500. You sell the 500 for $20.4 for quick sale. Your net cost for the 509 is only $28K.

[amilch]

Originally Posted by judson

Bundle them together to make sure you get the 500.

Excellent advice. A friend was on the fence with the DD RG olive dial and his AD told him he would be on top of the list for SS daytona. So what he offered to buy the DD in bundle together. Week later he received black dial daytona. Just an idea.

[m j b]

The blue is gorgeous, and I was tempted to buy one back when you could pick up a nicely used one for the low twenties. No way would I buy new and at (or nearly) MSRP.

And I'm not a fan of the ceramic, so there is that.

[ian.thomas]

Originally Posted by DJTOSUB

So a grey market 116500 white dial is going to cost $25K. If you buy the 116509 blue dial for $36K you can enjoy it while waiting fir your 116500 at $12,400 retail.

1. You may decide you love the white gold 116509 and live happily ever after.

2. You may get the 116500 you really wanted and sell your 116509. Assuming you sell for around $30k your total investment is around $18,400. You would save $6,600 in this scenario.

Numbers could change if the $36k from the AD does not include tax (tax here in Dallas would be ~$3k), and retail of the SS may go up by the time a one is available.

So, my vote is #1 above - get the WG and be happy with it, it's a great looking watch.

[Zippy+]

One here in the ad s window , looks nice !

[V25V]

Why would you get this and still want a stainless one?

[AK797]

Originally Posted by V25V

Why would you get this and still want a stainless one?

I think he really wants the SS and thinks the blue is the way to get one.

[GMTMasterDallas]

There could be a little upside for the blue dial, but it's unlikely. White gold, aside from extremely unique watches like the Unicorn, hasn't bee a big focus for Rolex sports watches at auction. White gold is likely used more in their sports watches nowadays as opposed to vintage models, so that could be part of the explanation, but I don't think it's enough of a factor to make one think that the price would go up that much, at least not anytime soon. The green dial YG Daytona is a unique situation, mostly because the dial colour is so striking that it makes it seem much different from the rest of the collection. The blue dial is nice, but not nearly different enough to really differentiate itself.

[ratty]

Originally Posted by BigAppleBill

Love mine! Wear it more than any other watch I own. Purchased well before I knew of the John Mayer vid. It doesn’t draw a lot of notice, which is what I prefer. It’s only blingy if you’re up close and paying attention. I love the weight of the PM and I get to look at that gorgeous dial many times a day.

I really like this watch.

I think it’s far nicer than models with ceramic bezels.

[Swaye]

Originally Posted by GMTMasterDallas

There could be a little upside for the blue dial, but it's unlikely. White gold, aside from extremely unique watches like the Unicorn, hasn't bee a big focus for Rolex sports watches at auction. White gold is likely used more in their sports watches nowadays as opposed to vintage models, so that could be part of the explanation, but I don't think it's enough of a factor to make one think that the price would go up that much, at least not anytime soon. The green dial YG Daytona is a unique situation, mostly because the dial colour is so striking that it makes it seem much different from the rest of the collection. The blue dial is nice, but not nearly different enough to really differentiate itself.

I think the blue dial will age really well, and always be a little sought after. But yeah, WG never really blows it away.

[Sublovin]

I have no idea if it will be collectible, but I really like it. I don’t think it would be my first choice for that amount of money.

[superdog]

Originally Posted by DJTOSUB

Lot of possibilities. How about...

4. You love the blue dial 509 and end up getting the 500. You sell the 500 for $20.4 for quick sale. Your net cost for the 509 is only $28K.

Based on his post and the current market conditions, which appears most likely to you?

[SeikoBake]

Originally Posted by superdog

Based on his post and the current market conditions, which appears most likely to you?

Today I have phoned the AD and stated that another AD who has an 509 in stock would sell it to me now for $35k and guarantee a SS 500 to go with it once I pick it up (a little embellishment here........). I called original AD and told them the deal, but said I’d pay 36 because that’s what we agreed, IF they could get me a 500 before Christmas. They took the bait and said they’d have both in November or earlier. I’m now satisfied. Thank you all for your help making decision.

[BigAppleBill]

Originally Posted by SeikoBake

Today I have phoned the AD and stated that another AD who has an 509 in stock would sell it to me now for $35k and guarantee a SS 500 to go with it once I pick it up (a little embellishment here........). I called original AD and told them the deal, but said I’d pay 36 because that’s what we agreed, IF they could get me a 500 before Christmas. They took the bait and said they’d have both in November or earlier. I’m now satisfied. Thank you all for your help making decision.

Look at you! Makin’ it rain up in the AD!! Congrats!!

[DJTOSUB]

Originally Posted by SeikoBake

Today I have phoned the AD and stated that another AD who has an 509 in stock would sell it to me now for $35k and guarantee a SS 500 to go with it once I pick it up (a little embellishment here........). I called original AD and told them the deal, but said I’d pay 36 because that’s what we agreed, IF they could get me a 500 before Christmas. They took the bait and said they’d have both in November or earlier. I’m now satisfied. Thank you all for your help making decision.

Awesome! Looking forward to your incoming post and to see what reference you end up keeping.

[SeikoBake]

Originally Posted by BigAppleBill

Look at you! Makin’ it rain up in the AD!! Congrats!!

Hahahahaha. Making it rain all day.

[superdog]

Ha. Nice.

Exciting times. Can’t wait for the double incoming.

[calh22a]

Make sure you're picking up both at the same time. Dont want the AD to string you along

[SeikoBake]

Originally Posted by calh22a

Make sure you're picking up both at the same time. Dont want the AD to string you along

You mean to tell me there is no honor amongst thieves ?? Preposterous!!!

[LoveTheCrown]

Purchased today from AD


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[StackLexus17]

OP - which one do you like better?

[Zach69SS]

The 116509 isn't that discontinued? Is this a new old stock piece?
I agree with the others make them bundle both of them?
Based on my dealings with ADs they just don’t care and there is no guarantee that you will get the SS Daytona later.

[NAUI1982]

Originally Posted by LoveTheCrown

Purchased today from AD


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Love this watch! You bought it in 2019 and here we are in 2024 still posting to this thread.

[Bazil]

I personally love the watch and would buy retail if offered, only you can decide financially best thing for you, if you’re worried it will tank then wait for a SS model …