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I do agree with this, provided of course that is his intention. Many are speculating that he is dealing again (and indeed he certainly invites emails for his "professional services") and it is not surprising people would feel nervous if he is building a huge following based on his honest, ex-dealer approach only to soon become a big dealer again - when his own son is not only a convicted watch fraudster but recently went bankrupt to avoid paying back the debts he owed to those he conned.
I struggle to understand how a reputable watch dealer did not notice that his son was developing riches from selling fake watches. His son had a business located in the same area, and was living a lifestyle commensurate with his earnings. Do you not think Father and Son talked about their respective businesses - both being watch dealers? Do you think Father did not visit son's premises or visit his website and see what he was buying and selling? In my mind there is a world of difference between someone who sells replica watches for replica prices. I don't approve of it, but nonetheless if one is selling a counterfeit Rolex for £500 everyone knows what they are getting themselves in to. What Jamie Thorpe did was sell watches at genuine prices. There is a poor chap who spent £20,000 on a gold Rolex; he has since discovered it is fake and cannot sue JT because of his bankruptcy. That makes JT utter scum (for want of a better expression) and I am sure we all agree, utterly appalling. I just struggle to understand how a Father, in the same business and living and working in the same town (effectively), did not realise this was going on. If he genuinely did not, then perhaps all Paul is guilty of is teaching his son about the business, to the extent was able to go off and pursue his own fraudulent interests. But if that is the case, he would in my view do better to come out and say that, and explain that he was unaware of his son's criminality as his victims were. Given, particularly, Paul has made numerous videos complaining at how inept the police were in dealing with the criminals that targeted his business, it does feel slightly ironic that he is glossing over the criminality of his own son. Quote:
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Plenty of people are estranged.
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Agreed - but if you watch the WikiLeaks video (and reading what locals are posting online) they are very much not estranged. Which is what is slightly difficult to reconcile with Paul's statement which did try and give the impression that this was an estranged relative.
Anyway, fundamentally none of my business and my last word on it. I like his videos, but (a) I am battle scarred by two attempts to defraud me in the last few days so I am very anti-fraudsters at the moment and (b) I can simply elect to not watch his videos, unsubscribe and not do any business with him if I have an issue with it!
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Why are so many people talking about/promoting this Man?
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I note his ‘relative’ is now his son, and his son was ‘charged’ when in fact he was convicted. Damn, I said I had uttered my last word on the subject!
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I don't mind what his son did and i certainly not gonna judge him for it. I find his video's somehow interesting, but he is annoying with editing his video's and it takes some time before he gets to the point.
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It was a Twitter photo on Jamie's account of Paul holding a baby with the caption "my dad and my daughter" on it that seems to be the smoking gun. Thats why Paul changed tact and started to say "son" from then on. I actually remember Paul's videos from years ago and thought they were very good indeed. Ive watched a lot of the subsequent ones especially the ones talking about fakes, fraud and avoiding conmen. I enjoyed them and felt sorry for Paul when he released the three videos saying where he had been a victim of crime and that the police really didnt seem interested in helping out. Now I think it was disingenuous NOT to have said from the off that his own son had ripped off the public for over half a million pounds worth of fake watches. It makes all his video talking about being an honest man and a victim a bit sour especially the parts about the police not helping out when they were at that point in time investigating his family for watch crimes themselves. The link with his son was always going to come out at some point and a lot of the people that were ripped off by Jamie have been doing their own digging into things going by the comments that have appeared on Paul's YouTube videos saying that Jamie took the rap and bankruptcy hit for the pair as he had less to lose. I've never met Paul or Jamie so cant comment from a personal standpoint, just on what has unfolded as noted above. |
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I was just wondering if all the troubles (robberies) he sustained might be in retaliation for the actions of his son -- or people trying to get even or get their money back or whatever-- everyone would think they were working in unison . -- and now I wonder if it's why the police were so flip when it came to helping him.
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I do feel that hes got an agenda as he constantly reminds us hes trustworthy and does deal in watches any more....he calls him self a journalist now for some reason. He talks like hes the only honest person on the planet...all said every now and then something interesting. I must say that his weird in car rants look more like the start of an amateur dogging video...kinda creepy ![]()
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He and Roman Sharf offer some of the best advice when buying a watch. Most dealers are apprehensive about sharing the information that he happily talks about.
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If he did know his son was fraudulent what would he have done? As a father, he would want to sway his son away from that lifestyle but also protect him. Not an easy situation to handle for any decent person. I have heard of mothers turning in their sons for stealing and then later regretting it.
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i have been watching some of the latest videos, they help your learning curve, seems a bloody hard game to get into, imagine trying to buy someones rolex and then making a good profit on it when every tom dick and harry knows what they are worth and that they can sell it with a few pics and a few clicks.
i reckon you have to go to europe to the auctions and fairs, maybe buy broken stuff and get it repaired or have some sort of deal with an AD. Not for me. |
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I found i was wasting too much time. Now, when I wanna watch a video of his, i put his videos on my phone, my phone in my pocket, and do something else, like washing up or hoover :D Seriously, youtubers are rewarded for long videos (more ads, lenghty ads).. it's a very dangerous road. Will produce more quantity and less quality. |
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I wonder if by posting videos about watch fraud all the time it makes the Jamie Thorpe saga less prominent in search results. I do not trust him at all, sorry. As has already been said on here I find it extremely difficult to believe he had no idea what the son was up to. I am sure I recall reading at the time that the company was dodgy. |
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I watch his channel and generally do like the content. When the story of his son came out I was disappointed and although I continue to watch his videos I am certainly more skeptical (lack of a better word). I am always thinking "what is this guy up to?"
I did find it very ironic that the first video I watched of his was about how to spot a fake Daytona by having the print "inside" the 11 & 1 hour markers...his example was from a person whom contacted Paul to have a look at it. It was a suspected fake, redial or frankenwatch. Very informative. The ironic part...I'm fairly certain that exact Daytona (green dial/gold case if I remember correctly) was one of the models mentioned in an expose article about his son. The article mentioned other models but specifically made a big deal about this Daytona. Last edited by LemaniaChrono; 11 November 2019 at 10:45 AM.. Reason: grammar |
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He is not responsible for his sons actions, Paul is a great guy.
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I bought my 16700 pepsi from him nearly 4 years ago, it was a terrific watch and a sensible price, a very nice guy to meet and deal with .
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I have now stopped watching the Paul Thorpe channel following this thread.
You can't tell me senior never knew what junior was up to.. Loved the channel with his scandal warning videos and the hero style let's stop robbery and theft. What a shame he wasn't able to warn anyone when his own son was scamming folk with fake watches to the tune of hundreds of thousands of pounds. Son conned people out of £650.000 wow Now bankrupt https://www.westsussex.gov.uk/news/f...ing-standards/ https://www.theargus.co.uk/news/17775161.amp/ Makes you wonder.. |
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Paul has hired a spin doctor - a very cheap spin doctor
But this story is high Drama . Arthur Daley 2020 with hair products. The kid has some pretty strong legal sanctions against him but he can “stack boxes for his biologicical father” just as he is Thorpes distant relative Oh please |
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When one of his videos appeared on my YouTube timeline a couple of months ago, I thought it was a trailer for a new Guy Ritchie movie. Watched a few more and not very impressed either by him or the quality of his videos.
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