La Watchworks Vs RSC

[Defiancekofb]

Originally Posted by AgentHsu

Any reason why I would or wouldn't choose one over the other for servicing my 16808 Gold Sub? Thanks for your thoughts!

ABC Watchworks, Dalton Toledo. Enough Said, the man is an artist at restoration. I've probably sent Dalton 3-5 Rolexes over the years for a polish.

[azguy]

Originally Posted by Defiancekofb

ABC Watchworks, Dalton Toledo. Enough Said, the man is an artist at restoration. I've probably sent Dalton 3-5 Rolexes over the years for a polish.

Yeah well, he hasn't been there in over a year

[configsys]

Granted all are Rolex certified, I guess the question comes down to whether you want the parts (if any) that were replaced returned to you, then an independent watch maker such as the ones mentioned will be a better choice.

RSCs are tasked to restore your watch to as new condition as possible therefore will replace hands, dials, bezels, bracelets (to their discretion) and will keep those old parts. In addition, you'll get a nice plastic Rolex warranty card.

Some purists prefer their watches remain as original as possible and don't like anything replaced. You can tell/ask an independent watch maker what exactly you wish to replace or NOT to replace and in most cases will return the old parts to you.

Why don't you stop in and chat with the repair shop close to your house and have a feel how they are (all for gain and nothing to lose)?

[Lordofrolex]

Ive brought 5 watches to LA watchwerks. Rolex, Franck Muller, AP and they do a great job. The owners are great you can talk to them anytime. They'll even meet you on a Saturday. I trust them with all my watch needs. I recommend.

[Idonthavearolex]

No experience of LA, but ABC are superb, upfront and honest.
Zero hesitation sending any of my other pieces there in the future as and when they need work.

[Rolex addict]

It's just personal preference, but I send mine to the Dallas RSC via my local AD. I've bought three used Rolexes from reputable people, but it's nice to have the serial number checked while being serviced. Now, those watches are in the Rolex database under my name.

[ap1]

Now, if I only kept my watches long enough for a service I'd find this thread useful

[Chewbacca]

Originally Posted by ap1

Now, if I only kept my watches long enough for a service I'd find this thread useful

ftw!

[Lordofrolex]

Got confused. LA watchwerks and ABC watchwerks used to be the same but a cousin i think broke off and made LA watchwerks. Personally never been to LA watchwerks but i can say ABC watchwerks is an amazing company and they do a great job. Would recommend going there.

[Lordofrolex]

Originally Posted by Lordofrolex

Ive brought 5 watches to LA watchwerks. Rolex, Franck Muller, AP and they do a great job. The owners are great you can talk to them anytime. They'll even meet you on a Saturday. I trust them with all my watch needs. I recommend.

Edit: ABC watchwerks

[kilyung]

It's the horological equivalent of a soap opera!

[omitohud]

Originally Posted by Relyt

Edvi from ABC was hands down amazing. They gave my explorer ii a custom look and service. After hearing all the RSC horror stories, no thank you.


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Edvi is with LA watch works now


I blame it on the autoconnect.

[omitohud]

ABC = Alex
LAWW = Beau, Edvi
Dalton = coming soon to Thousand Oaks.

That's what I know at the moment.


I blame it on the autoconnect.

[pampam]

Can ABC restore a polished center links to like new condition, if the center links are full of surface scratches??

[Relyt]

Originally Posted by omitohud

Edvi is with LA watch works now


I blame it on the autoconnect.

Is he really!??????? Wow, thanks, I did not know that. When did that happen? ABC did an amazing job for me, but Edvi really made the experience a great one.


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[AgentHsu]

Originally Posted by pampam

Can ABC restore a polished center links to like new condition, if the center links are full of surface scratches??

Yes

[John Condom]

Do these places have lapping machines to correctly refurbish sports cases?

[tvad]

ABC charges $495 for complete service + $95 for polish =$590.

RSC in Beverly Hills charges $600 for the same service and polish. RSC also provides a two year warranty card.

For $10 more and a two year Rolex worldwide warranty, why wouldn't one use RSC?

[Juantxo]

Rolex at one point released a statement whereby they would not guarantee service for watches older than 25 years, or some such. Which is not exactly the case because they have perfectly serviced for me an older DJ.

In any case, it seems common sense to me to send a watch for repair or service to the factory's service facility. Especially in the case of Rolex where they are always coming up with improvements such as new oils and so on, as well as training for watchmakers.

But to each his own.

[Drjamesie]

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[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by tvad

ABC charges $495 for complete service + $95 for polish =$590.

RSC in Beverly Hills charges $600 for the same service and polish. RSC also provides a two year warranty card.

For $10 more and a two year Rolex worldwide warranty, why wouldn't one use RSC?

Because one of them is vastly more skillful than the other (at least ABC used to be).

For brand new stuff it doesn't matter that much (though I'll always choose LAWW over an RSC). For older stuff - there's no comparison.

[sutats]

I'm not sure if it is the same for international Rolex Service Centres but in London, "complimentary refurbishment of case and bracelet" is included as part of the servicing charge.

Not all of us want our watches polished so there's money to be saved if it is an added charge.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

Spoken like someone who doesn't know the difference between hand polishing and lapping machines.

I have lapping machines and hand polishing tools in my glass shop. Can you expand on why there is a significant difference in the two techniques when polishing watches?

[tvad]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

Because one of them is vastly more skillful than the other (at least ABC used to be).

Are you saying ABC Watchwerks is vastly more skillful that RSC?

Can you provide some specifics to illustrate in what ways AMC is more skillful? That would be helpful.

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

I have lapping machines and hand polishing tools in my glass shop. Can you expand on why there is a significant difference in the two techniques when polishing watches?

The proof, as they say, of the pudding is in the eating:
http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...n-page-3/page4

Let me know if you can't see those photos. If not, it's worth joining just to see them.

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by tvad

Are you saying ABC Watchwerks is vastly more skillful that RSC?

Can you provide some specifics to illustrate in what ways AMC is more skillful? That would be helpful.

I know someone who personally went from the PA training center to the Dallas RSC to train up the people. I won't go into details, because I'm not interested in getting anyone in trouble, but the case refinishers are some of the least trained people who touch your watches. IIRC his training course for the polishers was around one month.

These are people who had never touched a watch before. Then one month later, they're grinding metal off your $10,000 watch. ABC on the other hand (at least in its previous iteration) was staffed by people who have worked in the industry for years. I've seen, as in held in my hand, numerous before/after transformations that they've done and the results are never below superb.

It's actually very impressive to me that the RSCs do as well as they do, given what I know.

You simply can't compare this level of passion, knowledge, and skill to someone who applied for a polishing job at the RSC because it pays more than cleaning hotel rooms (my buddy said they get most of the case people that way). The two operations are simply incomparable. One is set up for speedy delivery of good to OK results. The other is set up to deliver top top top results every single time.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by JP Chestnut

The proof, as they say, of the pudding is in the eating:
http://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.ph...n-page-3/page4

Let me know if you can't see those photos. If not, it's worth joining just to see them.

Thanks for the link.

Those sunbursts came out very well. It's hard to beat that.

The pictures in post 256 are the stars though. I was wondering what sort of fixture he used to control the work, and those clear that up.

[JP Chestnut]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

Thanks for the link.

Those sunbursts came out very well. It's hard to beat that.

The pictures in post 256 are the stars though. I was wondering what sort of fixture he used to control the work, and those clear that up.

The amazing thing about that thread is that the guy was not trained or experienced on the lapping machine. He just picked it up and started using it.

[uansari1]

So do LAWW or ABC have lapping machines, or do they hand finish only?

[porschedude]

Originally Posted by jeffgo888

I have to know the difference between those 2.machines to know that I recommend that A Rolex service center service a rolex watch?
If you have a vested interest in recommending another shop, by all means. But don't think you can intimidate and insult and expect me to cower? Lol

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His response was very condescending, not sure why it was necessary but anyway. When it comes to modern rolex I totally agree on using a rsc.