Can Rolex be fake if you have original warranty card

[padi56]

Originally Posted by leobul73@gmail.com

Yes seller is legit he sold a lot of Rolex and Patek watches with are perfect reviews

So you say the seller is legit and you have already bought the watch, so what is the point of this thread about a original warranty card and watch might be a fake.

[leobul73@gmail.com]

Point is when you spend a lot of money you always questioning real or not real

[GoingPlaces]

Anything is possible, take it to a AD and have their service people check it out.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by leobul73@gmail.com

Point is when you spend a lot of money you always questioning real or not real

I would have thought anyone that was going to spend a lot on money on anything would have checked first before buying,there is a old saying always buy the seller first, before buying the watch.

[Calatrava r]

You have to buy the seller. Only an expert can discern the latest generation of counterfeit watches now delivered complete. The watch is the hard part. The rest is really very easy.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by CK19

I have a card from that jeweler and it says just WEMPE JEWELERS, no address and the date in MM/DD/YYYY format from 2019. I am the second owner, so I didn't purchase it. It's been at an RSC since March due to covid.

There are known fake cards just like you describe with Wempe printed on them.
Did you purchase a watch with said card?

[shaunylw]

Originally Posted by Pongster

Is this a dig at Chrono24?



In my experience, it is a legit platform.



Bought my rolex watches from ADs. But i have bought more than 30 watches from Chrono24 sellers including some precious metal pieces costing more than 20K usd.

There are many sellers posting pictures of watches they don’t have, then sourcing the watch after it sells. The one good thing about chrono, is you can use Amex for protection.


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[GST15]

I know people will argue, but this is why I will only buy from an AD. I understand the desire to have the watch now, but not worth the risk for me.

[kwingy]

Originally Posted by padi56

So you say the seller is legit and you have already bought the watch, so what is the point of this thread about a original warranty card and watch might be a fake.

+1 - OP why have you created this thread other then to create doubt in your own mind for no reason based on what you said about the seller?!

[Peemaster]

Hi there,

Now please stop etching your cards to see the „invalid“ security mark. It will make people suspicious, who might want to buy your watch in the future. As of now there are ways to authenticate your warranty card without destroying it:

1. check that the Rolex crown on the front side of the card looks exactly like this:
https://imgur.com/a/fXTtoTc
Especially check the correct size of the lower crown hole (as marked in the picture). All fake cards (also the improved v2) have a smaller crown hole. Not sure if i am allowed to post a comparative picture of a fake card so i won’t. PM me if you’d like to see the fake crown.

2. When you look at the back side of the card, thoroughly feel the contours of the white purchase details field. If the field and rest of the card is one even plane, your card is fake. On gen warranty cards, you can feel the contours of the text field.

[AJMarcus]

Originally Posted by Dr.Brian

You’re worried that the watch you just dropped $20k on is fake, and you’re posting a photo of the plastic card? The easiest part of the whole package to fake?
I’d think you’d want to post photos of the watch?
Good luck.

[fskywalker]

Good luck!


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[RoscoPico]

personally i am getting so sick of these fake watches. wtf can't they just be sold as fakes, for a few hundred bucks. nothing wrong with that imo.
passing them off as real is a problem

[RoscoPico]

Originally Posted by padi56

So you say the seller is legit and you have already bought the watch, so what is the point of this thread about a original warranty card and watch might be a fake.

this

[77T]

Originally Posted by RoscoPico

personally i am getting so sick of these fake watches. wtf can't they just be sold as fakes, for a few hundred bucks. nothing wrong with that imo.

passing them off as real is a problem

If you’ve already lost your patience in one trimester of seeing fake Rolex on TRF, keep all the sharps locked up.

There is much wrong with selling fakes - the whole copyright/trademark/brand equity is stolen even when one admits to selling a fake. Not a rant about your post, just sharing in spirit of communication.


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[Likestheshiny]

There are many sellers posting pictures of watches they don’t have, then sourcing the watch after it sells. The one good thing about chrono, is you can use Amex for protection.

Almost any credit card will offer fraud protection. Also, many of the sales on Chrono24 have an escrow option.

[Sublovin]

Originally Posted by Dr.Brian

You’re worried that the watch you just dropped $20k on is fake, and you’re posting a photo of the plastic card? The easiest part of the whole package to fake?
I’d think you’d want to post photos of the watch?
Good luck.

Have to agree. The reliance people have on plastic cards, receipts and boxes blows the mind.
“The watch can’t be fake, it came with this plastic card that says it’s real”!

[RoscoPico]

Originally Posted by 77T

If you’ve already lost your patience in one trimester of seeing fake Rolex on TRF, keep all the sharps locked up.

There is much wrong with selling fakes - the whole copyright/trademark/brand equity is stolen even when one admits to selling a fake. Not a rant about your post, just sharing in spirit of communication.


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fair. and yeah, guess it is the way things are. just a real shame we got to deal with it.
rather focus on what watch i want next

[CK19]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

There are known fake cards just like you describe with Wempe printed on them.
Did you purchase a watch with said card?

Yes, I meant didn't purchase directly from the AD, but via third party. Have the bill of sale as well from Wempe. No matter what, will find out soon if it's legit or not bc it's been at the rsc since 3/1. Any pics of these fake cards?

[kodak]

I'm not sure a card guarantees the authenticity of a piece..

[Daveclock]

Scary thread!
Not sure if this was already posted - but it scared me!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upAJE_XhT2Y

These fakes can and only will get better, and sadly the fakers will be looking for hints and tips here to work out what needs to be improved. I know thread was about card issue - but it makes you worry about the watch also.
As for RSC and AD - I have heard they too have been fooled in the past - it certainly makes it a minefield.
Good luck OP and please keep us updated.

[Rori]

Originally Posted by Daveclock

Scary thread!
Not sure if this was already posted - but it scared me!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upAJE_XhT2Y

These fakes can and only will get better, and sadly the fakers will be looking for hints and tips here to work out what needs to be improved. I know thread was about card issue - but it makes you worry about the watch also.
As for RSC and AD - I have heard they too have been fooled in the past - it certainly makes it a minefield.
Good luck OP and please keep us updated.

Yes, and these replicas are getting better and better with time.
I’ve seen another video of a famous French Rolex expert “Olivine Prestige” touching this subject too.
He states that the number of fake Rolex victims has been increasing due to almost perfect card-papers-box and watch sets.


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[Tangier11]

Originally Posted by padi56

And far easier to fake than the watch.

I thought any mention of FAKE was no allowed on here?

[Simon_jrees]

Originally Posted by leobul73@gmail.com

Hi I have questions I just got Daytona black with ceramic from chrono 24 I little worry if the watch can be fake with original warranty card serial number on the card Match with serial on the watch and also I did check with Uv light abs Everything looks perfect

Send it for a service, you'll soon know.

[Jari from Finland]

On the basis of pics and card we cannot say here if the watch that you bought is fake or real. I would suggest you to take the watch at a Rolex AD for authentication. There is no fake that cannot be authenticated when it is done properly. There are lots of fake Rolex paperwork on fake Rolex watches with the matching serial number from Rolex database. Fakers have spotted them while people sending pics of their watches on forums without having covered the serial numbers. That is one reason not to show the serial number when posting pics. As I already wrote I suggest you to take the watch for authentication at a Rolex AD to be sure.

[Overwound]

Maybe you can call Wempe and ask them if it's possible to confirm your watch was indeed sold by them. If they say it was sold there and they can confirm the name on the card you should be all set without sending to RSC.

Good luck!

[michaelodonnell123]

Originally Posted by kieselguhr

Any crook could sell you a fake watch and a legit card.

Buy from a reputable seller.

I define a reputable seller as someone who has a solid track record of satisfactory sales, a reputation to uphold, and will resolve any issues post sale.

Reputable sellers have also unintentionally sold fakes. Even they can't tell them apart from real.

[77T]

This thread started with a simple question if the watch can be fake with an original warranty card where the serial number on the card matches with serial on the watch.

Yet it has slipped into who makes the better fake Rolex. I think it’s served its original purpose and now is well over the line.






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[kieselguhr]

Originally Posted by michaelodonnell123

Reputable sellers have also unintentionally sold fakes. Even they can't tell them apart from real.

Correct. The difference being reputable sellers have a return policy

[Solo118]

Anything is possible. You need to be super careful buying anything online. Even the TD's can be fake! I have gotten fake emails/PM's in the past but luckily knew better.