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Old 27 August 2018, 10:00 PM   #31
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You're correct.
We have tested a sub in the Rolex fathometre at 300m with the crown open, it was completely fine.

Is this thread going to continue after this from an expert who actually works on them.

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It rained 2 miles away from me whilst wearing my GMT now should I take it in to RSC for a check up.
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Old 27 August 2018, 10:06 PM   #32
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You're correct.
We have tested a sub in the Rolex fathometre at 300m with the crown open, it was completely fine.
And we have the answer.
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Old 27 August 2018, 10:07 PM   #33
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A few years ago on the Rolex website they stated that the Triplock was rated to 500 Bar unscrewed and in this thread we are discussing water resistance in a shower?
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Old 27 August 2018, 10:24 PM   #34
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How hard would it be to take it to an AD with a certified technician and have it checked out?
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Old 27 August 2018, 10:29 PM   #35
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How hard would it be to take it to an AD with a certified technician and have it checked out?
My AD said it would take him anywhere btw 2-4 weeks. I have read that screw or unscrew doesn’t do a difference when it is little pressure I am trying to understand,
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Old 27 August 2018, 10:30 PM   #36
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You should be ok. That is assuming the crown was in the winding position.

You can always do a quick and dirty check for moisture in the watch by placing an ice cube on the crystal to see if there's an excessive amount of condensation forming on the underside.
I will try this, what is considered little or a lot condensation?
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Old 27 August 2018, 10:31 PM   #37
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You're correct.
We have tested a sub in the Rolex fathometre at 300m with the crown open, it was completely fine.
Fingers cross my friend, i hope I am okay, it was a few minutes. Water? was not extremely hot just warm
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Old 27 August 2018, 10:40 PM   #38
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Fingers cross my friend, i hope I am okay, it was a few minutes. Water? was not extremely hot just warm
Afraid today you guys worry to much about your watches,I would doubt if you have anything to worry about in such a short and shallow immersion in water and no condensation on crystal. Myself once on a dive in the Red Sea noticed my crown was fully unscrewed on my SD while at 25m plus.But I did not panic as I was in charge of a group of divers I was guiding over the reef they were far more important than any watch.On return to surface watch was fine and watch is still fine today that was quite a few years ago.
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Old 27 August 2018, 10:44 PM   #39
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Afraid today you guys worry to much about your watches,I would doubt if you have anything to worry about in such a short and shallow immersion in water and no condensation on crystal. Myself once on a dive in the Red Sea noticed my crown was fully unscrewed on my SD while at 25m plus.But I did not panic as I was in charge of a group of divers I was guiding over the reef they were far more important than any watch.On return to surface watch was fine and watch is still fine today that was quite a few years ago.
Thank you! I will let you know what happens in the next few days. I only hope for the best! Thanks for your reply
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Old 27 August 2018, 11:10 PM   #40
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It’s a submariner.
According to Rolex it is pressure resistant to its rated depth with the crown unscrewed.
It wouldn’t even know it was in a shower.
I do not believe this is accurate.

Unscrewed (in any position) only the two O-rings inside the crown tube seal on the OD of the crown stem. That is a 50m seal. (so safe for the shower, if in good shape and properly lubricated)

In order to get the significant depth rating, the seal at the end of the tube needs to be compressed by the crown when it is screwed down.

The o-ring on the outside of the tube (the one you see when you unscrew the crown) simply keeps garbage from getting into the crown threads, which would prevent it form screwing down fully.

Hope this helps!
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Old 27 August 2018, 11:20 PM   #41
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Shower with crown unscrewed

Bas answered that a Sub should be good to it’s rated depth even with the crown unscrewed.

What he may have not said is, “with perfectly good o-rings”.

So OP - how long ago did you have this watch serviced?

If a long time ago, how recently was it pressure tested with the crown unscrewed?

If more than 5 years old and no service or testing then have it pressure tested now - and with the crown unscrewed. That is not a waste of money or time as you should do such every year or so.

If the watch passes the test, then no water could have passed the o-rings.


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Old 27 August 2018, 11:49 PM   #42
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I always shower with my crown unscrewed how else would I wash away all that dirt behind the crown? So don't worry, be happy




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Old 28 August 2018, 12:01 AM   #43
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I cannot understand why some feel the need to shower with their watch on wrist. You can easily clean the watch in the bathroom sink with some Dawn and a brush or a wash cloth. Just the fact my watch would be sliding up and down my wrist from the soap and water in the shower would be more annoying than worth it.
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Old 28 August 2018, 12:06 AM   #44
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Put the watch in a bag of rice. It will take the moisture out of it (if there was any). Just like phones if you accidentally drop it in a pool of water.
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Old 28 August 2018, 12:18 AM   #45
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Put the watch in a bag of rice. It will take the moisture out of it (if there was any). Just like phones if you accidentally drop it in a pool of water.
Newer Samsungs are waterproof. Pool drop, no worries.
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Old 28 August 2018, 12:29 AM   #46
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I cannot understand why some feel the need to shower with their watch on wrist. You can easily clean the watch in the bathroom sink with some Dawn and a brush or a wash cloth. Just the fact my watch would be sliding up and down my wrist from the soap and water in the shower would be more annoying than worth it.
At home doesnt make sense, but i can see times were it is applicable. For example my companies yearly summer summit. We hang out on the beach all day and then usually shower in a semi public locker room before dinner. I rather keep my watch on than leaving it somewhere unattended (even though I don't think a colleague would steel it), but still...
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Old 28 August 2018, 12:36 AM   #47
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You should be totally fine if your seals are good.

The main o ring seals on the trip lock crown are around the stem., as below.


wow, great post. I didn't realize that this was sealed even with the crown unscrewed.
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Old 28 August 2018, 12:44 AM   #48
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It is fine. Happened to me with my previous sub..
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Old 28 August 2018, 12:45 AM   #49
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wow, great post. I didn't realize that this was sealed even with the crown unscrewed.
The main seal is inside the case the ones outside are secondary.

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Old 28 August 2018, 02:20 AM   #50
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I think you'll be fine. Just leave the crown unscrewed to dry out so that you don't seal any moisture in. If you see any condensation inside the crystal, you have a problem.
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Old 28 August 2018, 03:24 AM   #51
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This thread is hilarious. We have experts state not to worry, that the watch is engineered for this. Then suddenly it still turns into throwing that out and judging why people shower with watches, whether the experts are wrong and to put it in rice like a 1990s cell phone.
Is this the real world or a YouTube comment board, goodness....
It was shower, equivalent to washing your hands for a long time, I've jumped in and out of the pool on one occasion and realized my crown was unscrewed, no problem. I'm so confident that even with crappy seals, a six digit Sub will be fine.

If he had said it was a vintage Submariner from the 70s then maybe.
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Old 28 August 2018, 03:47 AM   #52
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I heard the story from friend of my that his uncle recently went swimming with he's Rolex unscrewed. The result is nothing happens to the watch.
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I cannot understand why some feel the need to shower with their watch on wrist. You can easily clean the watch in the bathroom sink with some Dawn and a brush or a wash cloth. Just the fact my watch would be sliding up and down my wrist from the soap and water in the shower would be more annoying than worth it.
I shower with my watch every day, gives it a nice clean too. I use my watch 24/7, the safest place for a watch is on the wrist in my opinion and I am having no problems with it sliding up and down from soap either. Maybe you are having your watch a little too loose on your wrist if it slides up and down from the soap?
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Thank you! I will let you know what happens in the next few days. I only hope for the best! Thanks for your reply
Don't worry about it; listen to the experts here.

If the inner seals are sound, and they should be on any relatively new watch, water cannot get inside your watch - it is a sealed chamber.

Further, the air pocket above the seals would need to be overcome - just like holding a bottle under water with the opening down - water will not just flow in.

Be cautious, but be practical too..
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I think you should be okay if you actually do leave the crown unscreewed
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Old 28 August 2018, 05:45 AM   #56
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Its fine...watch for any moisture in the case... a shower isnt going to do anything
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Old 28 August 2018, 06:07 AM   #57
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Now here is an actual question, say you showered/pooled/dove and you realized your crown was unscrewed, what is the proper response? Screw in immediately(while still wet)? Towel dry and then screw in? Leave in rice/desiccant for a few and then screw in?

Way it seems is if the crown is screwed in while there is water/moisture on the underside, when the threads engage the crown it'd be in contact with exterior most seal, would cause water/moisture to be squished into stem seal's(at least past the first one and water would sit in that little gap between first and second stem seal). Could be way off.
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I shower with my watch every day, gives it a nice clean too. I use my watch 24/7, the safest place for a watch is on the wrist in my opinion and I am having no problems with it sliding up and down from soap either. Maybe you are having your watch a little too loose on your wrist if it slides up and down from the soap?
Nope. I wear it "tight" and it normally doesn't move unless I start sweating. It is a YG Sub, so 220g, if you have a wet wrist with the weight of PM, it will move around.

If you wear that SS DJ in your avatar, then that's a totally different story.

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Now here is an actual question, say you showered/pooled/dove and you realized your crown was unscrewed, what is the proper response? Screw in immediately(while still wet)? Towel dry and then screw in? Leave in rice/desiccant for a few and then screw in?

Way it seems is if the crown is screwed in while there is water/moisture on the underside, when the threads engage the crown it'd be in contact with exterior most seal, would cause water/moisture to be squished into stem seal's(at least pasted the first one and water would sit in that little gap between first and second stem seal). Could be way off.
It's not entirely implausible.
As someone alluded to this possibility earlier in this thread, the water may be pushed past the internal O-rings on the stem by hydraulic pressure.
It's a phenomenon that's never been fully explored, let alone reached a conclusive outcome.
It's all just speculation within and around a healthy discussion

IMO, the proper response would be to simply blow the thread around the Winding crown and screw it down as intended.
It should be all good in theory.
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