know your enemy,1680 fakes are running rampant!

[onkyo]

Thanks Steve for posting this valuable information.

Goes to the point... only buy vintage from reliable sellers who stand behind their product 100% (even if you have to pay a few dollars extra).

[snow_rocks]

Steve, no way to tell how long this particular watch had been floating around?

[DRAWTOOL]

Originally Posted by CorruptedSanity

Its people like you who add value to communities like these.

Thanks Steve.

I can attest to that!

[bayerische]

Thanks for this!
I didn't know about the "E", but now I do!

[stevemulholland3]

my pleasure guys!
I know that awful feeling you get when you pay some god awful price for something and it turns out to be a fake..you get a lump that starts in your throat and works its way down to the pit of your stomach!
I have to send back about 30 to 35% of everything that comes in these days because its fake..it pisses a lot of dealers off sometimes and some wont even sell to me because they are afraid of what I will find when they send me their watch or parts..lol
but hey,I have taken a hit on stuff before I learned what was right and whats not right and thats the most powerful way to learn!when it affects you where it counts.
I am just glad that I can use the knowledge I have worked hard to learn to help out my fellow collectors so hopefully many of them will never have to go thru that terrible experience of finding out something you cherish isnt what you thought it was!
if anyone has anything they need an opinion on feel free to email me some pics,I am sometimes swamped with requests but I will get to it as soon as I can.
cheers!

[1000ftSub]

Originally Posted by stevemulholland3

it had an authentic Rolex movement..and authentic dial/hands and bezel..
so with a cursory inspection it would appear 100% genuine..
someone was saying about even AD's selling fakes.
I went into an authorized dealer last week and he had a few Rolex bracelets in his case (used) and among them priced just as all the rest was a fake band..and not a good fake at that!..lol
so your 100% correct,these authorized dealers know nothing when it comes
to vintage or even classic watches!

You know them watches Steve! Keep us posted.

[ibsober]

I got two 16800's for a legitimate seller and both had real movements, real dials, and real bracelets, but both had fake cases. The Viet's have got CNC lathes down to a science...

[leebingate]

Originally Posted by ParisDakarBmw

Good work Steve! I learned allot from this thread! Thanks!

Good to know - thanks for the post Steve.

PS. I hope the TRF member who posted yesterday about possibly buying a 1680 off the Net reads this...

[springer]

Looks like another case from the "forbidden" web site. Not only are they doing Submariner 1680's, but they are "popping" GMT's, Daytonas and Explorer II's.

Be careful out there!!!!

[4000 feet]

Great thread Steve. Thanks for the info.

[roach7]

Does anyone have a scan of a real 1680 caseback? thanks.

[4000 feet]

Thanks for the tip. I will be very careful if and when I buy a 1680 Sub.