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Old 27 December 2017, 02:11 AM   #31
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I do think collectable in this case means sought after, but not necessarily in a monetary sense.

The question should be posed if one was building a nice vintage collection in 30 years, which models would be sought out?
Kind of sounds like semantics to me. Sought after = increased value.

Yes, You can collect things that aren’t sought after, just ask my wife about her shoes lol. But for something to be “collectible” as stated in the title and OP, it automatically implies value, at least IMO.
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Old 27 December 2017, 02:17 AM   #32
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I don’t think any modern mass produced Rolex is going to be collectible, there are just to many in circulation.
Been saying this for a while now.
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Old 27 December 2017, 02:23 AM   #33
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The big difference between past collectobaility and future collectability / value will be those that have been kept as safe queens with stickers on etc. I doubt many pieces from even the 80s were kept from purchase or BNIB but nowadays, a fair number of collectors are stockpiling brand new. Each model listed by the OP be worth a lot in 30 years’ time but only if in unworn condition. There will be 2nd and 3rd tier pricing for worn / used pieces.
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Old 27 December 2017, 02:32 AM   #34
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I don’t think any modern mass produced Rolex is going to be collectible, there are just to many in circulation
Maybe we can ask the opening question in another manner. Which model will be most price-stable and burn at least money (is this correct english?)?
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Old 27 December 2017, 02:42 AM   #35
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I think the DJ2 should be on that list.

There seems plenty of up and coming Datejust owners who prefer the eisthetics of the watch (whilst I appreciate there are others who don’t), but now they’re discontinued, like everything in life, people want what they can’t readily find. Thrill of the chase and all that...


I would agree, I’m one of them!

I just got a DJII as my first, passed on a BLNR available at a local AD.
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Old 27 December 2017, 02:43 AM   #36
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ROLEX HOT MODELS RIGHT NOW??? Future collectibles

Mass produced models on this list? Yes.
Mass produced models being worn and eventually removed from the pool? Yes.
Models will be discontinued, some will become icons, perhaps grails, and in turn will be collectible.

The big question I think the OP is getting at is.... What in the modern day are those models that will become icons, grails, or be the most significant.
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Old 27 December 2017, 02:56 AM   #37
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Experience has shown me that items considered as collectibles when new rarely remain collectible as time passes. The most collectible items are those that were the first of their brand, overlooked when new, and/or presaged an important development.

With that in mind, I could see the recently cancelled DD2 and/or DJ2 become collectible.
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Old 27 December 2017, 03:32 AM   #38
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It is not hot. But I see it has a great future potential. The white milgauss
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Old 27 December 2017, 03:38 AM   #39
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-Rolex GMT Batman
-Rolex Hulk
-Rolex SD 50th anniversary
-Rolex Sub non ceramic 50th anniversary
-Rolex Milgauss Z Blue

The BLNR and LVc may not be collectible in terms of future value, but they're definitely a collector's requisite around these parts. Just look at the watch galleries, practically all collectors, myself included, have these two. They are just so equally gorgeous that you definitely want both.

The two 50th anniversary watches speak for themselves. Limited run, price will undoubtedly skyrocket. The fact that they are revolutionary cyclops and 43mm on the SD, and maxi dial on the Kermit, only helps their collectibility as transition pieces of sorts.

The Milgauss Z Blue is just the most beautiful stainless steel, non sports watch there is. It doesn't get much love now, but I have a feeling this will be a very sought after piece in a year or so. It's on my list of gotta haves.
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Old 27 December 2017, 03:47 AM   #40
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It is not hot. But I see it has a great future potential. The white milgauss


I’ve always thought that too


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Old 27 December 2017, 03:51 AM   #41
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it is not hot. But i see it has a great future potential. The white milgauss
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Old 27 December 2017, 03:54 AM   #42
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-Rolex GMT Batman
-Rolex Hulk
-Rolex SD 50th anniversary
-Rolex Sub non ceramic 50th anniversary
-Rolex Milgauss Z Blue

The BLNR and LVc may not be collectible in terms of future value, but they're definitely a collector's requisite around these parts. Just look at the watch galleries, practically all collectors, myself included, have these two. They are just so equally gorgeous that you definitely want both.

The two 50th anniversary watches speak for themselves. Limited run, price will undoubtedly skyrocket. The fact that they are revolutionary cyclops and 43mm on the SD, and maxi dial on the Kermit, only helps their collectibility as transition pieces of sorts.

The Milgauss Z Blue is just the most beautiful stainless steel, non sports watch there is. It doesn't get much love now, but I have a feeling this will be a very sought after piece in a year or so. It's on my list of gotta haves.
But they are not limited runs

The 16610LV was produced for approx 7 years. The SD43 could be around 4,8,12 years etc. No one knows. Where did you get limited run from?.

The 16610LV currently is the most collectible sports model in the past 20 years.

Most limited production run in Rolex modern history is the recently discontinued SD4k. Approx 30 months. This model might very well surpass the 16610LV at some point value wise.
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Old 27 December 2017, 04:01 AM   #43
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I don’t think any modern mass produced Rolex is going to be collectible, there are just to many in circulation.
I'm in the same boat as you, however this got me thinking...

I wonder if anyone has done a chart using the assumed Rolex production in 1960 compared to the 1960's world-wide population and then tracked the Rolex increase in production to the increase in population to current day. I'm curious if the ratio of production to population has changed much.

Granted, there are a ton in circulation currently, but as the population grows over the next 10-20 years, will the current day productions seem more scarce then because there are many more people around to want them?
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Old 27 December 2017, 04:02 AM   #44
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You might consider adding the Sky D Blue or what ever color you prefer. I also agree with the DJII as a potential win.
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Old 27 December 2017, 04:09 AM   #45
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1) SD4k has unique case no other Rolex has. It has the shortest production run.
2) submariner 16610LV kermit is the only watch that can be consider 50th anniversary not hulk.
3) steel zenith daytona 16520. Rolex & Zenith u get two big brands. It is the first automatic chronograph Rolex ever made. The first daytona that started the craze.
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Old 27 December 2017, 04:45 AM   #46
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I don’t think any modern mass produced Rolex is going to be collectible, there are just to many in circulation.
Production qty is pretty much irrelevant to Rolex collectability in a downward sense...

What I mean by that is that Rolex are very sought after if they were produced in limited qtys....

Some models are also highly sought after if they were made in enormous qtys.

Take the 5 digit subs and gmt. There were bazillions of them made over the years...and they continue to rise up up up and away in value...

There are plenty of them out there...but it doesn't matter.
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Old 27 December 2017, 04:46 AM   #47
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The 50th An. Sub is the only one on that list that I think will be considered a collectible 20+ years from now. IMHO
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Old 27 December 2017, 05:40 AM   #48
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Firsts, lasts, sticker safe queens, short runs, and not all of those by any means, and some only in that combination. Not even all limited editions/retailer named will be collectible to the general market.

Get yer dough out of your LV/BLNR now, if all you care about is investment return, imo.
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Old 27 December 2017, 07:02 AM   #49
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Think I’ll keep the Flat 4, 2003 in the safe for a while longer


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Old 27 December 2017, 07:57 AM   #50
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No one mentioned the new ss skydweller
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Old 27 December 2017, 08:02 AM   #51
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I Wanted to gather a list and get everyone's opinion on which rolexes are hot and which will probably becomes collectors items in the not to distant future:



-Rolex SD 4000 (discontinued)

-Rolex GMT Batman

-Rolex Hulk

-Daytona Ceramic

-Rolex SD 50th anniversary

-Rolex DSSD James Cameron edition.....

-Rolex Sub non ceramic 50th anniversary

-Rolex Non ceramic Daytona



Also does anyone see these new models coming down to reality or will there always be a premium for them?


Define “collectors model”

Are you implying extremely appreciated value / selling price or???
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Old 27 December 2017, 09:08 AM   #52
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Interesting take on the subject from Ariel Adams

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The real reason you should buy a luxury watch

While the world of watches is unapologetically aware of value, money, and prestige, almost everyone in the industry—and everyone interview by Money—agreed on one thing: Buying one should be about your enjoyment of the watch itself, not the possibility of getting a return on your investment. Above all, it’s piece of jewelry you wear, something emotional and personal, not something soulless like an index fund or cache of bullion.

“I always tell people to buy something they like, not something for an investment,” says Altieri. “It’s not a bar of gold, you get to enjoy and wear it.”

“People should buy watches they want to wear,” agrees Adams. “Don’t ever get a watch that’s just going to sit somewhere.”
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Old 27 December 2017, 11:21 AM   #53
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Interesting take on the subject from Ariel Adams

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The real reason you should buy a luxury watch

While the world of watches is unapologetically aware of value, money, and prestige, almost everyone in the industry—and everyone interview by Money—agreed on one thing: Buying one should be about your enjoyment of the watch itself, not the possibility of getting a return on your investment. Above all, it’s piece of jewelry you wear, something emotional and personal, not something soulless like an index fund or cache of bullion.

“I always tell people to buy something they like, not something for an investment,” says Altieri. “It’s not a bar of gold, you get to enjoy and wear it.”

“People should buy watches they want to wear,” agrees Adams. “Don’t ever get a watch that’s just going to sit somewhere.”
This was pre 2018, from now on financial motivation and quick flips for easy money will be a huge factor, we've already seen money talk dominate even this forum in the last three months and this will continue in earnest next year as supply will remain low and prices keep rising. I hope Rolex are taking note.
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Old 27 December 2017, 11:25 AM   #54
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This was pre 2018, from now on financial motivation and quick flips for easy money will be a huge factor, we've already seen money talk dominate even this forum in the last three months and this will continue in earnest next year as supply will remain low and prices keep rising. I hope Rolex are taking note.
Agree. I just thought the article was interesting. The OP was coming from a 2017/18 angle of course.

Top 3:

1) Rolex 16610LV
2) RolexSD4k
3) Rolex DSSD JC


The rest is debateable
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Old 27 December 2017, 11:31 AM   #55
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This was pre 2018, from now on financial motivation and quick flips for easy money will be a huge factor, we've already seen money talk dominate even this forum in the last three months and this will continue in earnest next year as supply will remain low and prices keep rising. I hope Rolex are taking note.
Flashbacks of this from back in 2011 in the sneaker world. Its now happening with Rolex.
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Old 27 December 2017, 12:33 PM   #56
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Only time will tell. Basleworld 2018 is right around the corner. What if Rolex releases a 42mm Hulk with the 3235 movement? The price/collectible of the current Hulk would drop like a rock.
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Old 27 December 2017, 12:45 PM   #57
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When I bought my first Rolex the words, "Investment" and "watch" were never used in the same sentence...
But then again I am old...
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Old 27 December 2017, 01:01 PM   #58
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Only time will tell. Basleworld 2018 is right around the corner. What if Rolex releases a 42mm Hulk with the 3235 movement? The price/collectible of the current Hulk would drop like a rock.
No. That would be a new model produced for the next 7-10 years.

A 40mm Ceramic green LV would command a premium because it was discontinued and replaced with a 42mm model.

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No. That would be a new model produced for the next 7-10 years.

A 40mm Ceramic green LV would command a premium because it was discontinued and replaced with a 42mm model.

I see your point and understand where you are coming from, but I also disagree. At least in the early days, it would be all about having the newest, greatest thing.
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Old 27 December 2017, 04:56 PM   #60
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Honestly, I don’t see the logic backing the collectibility of the BLNR... changing the color of half of the bezel and the color of the gmt hand...? Is that it? But again, you can’t use logic to reason with collectors i.e. meters first, two lines, font variations.. etc
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