Daytona SS

[Investr]

Look at the Omega Speedmaster.... welcome to THE GAME!

[Chute]

I’d look for a 116520 instead of the 116500. I seriously doubt you’ll get a 116500 any time soon from an AD.
You can still find 116520’s for around $15k. Not long ago you could find 16520’s for under 15, now you can’t find one for under $25k.
Get on as many lists as you can but if you really want a stainless Daytona, getting a recent 116520 would be my suggestion .
What color dial would you prefer?

[masterdinh]

Dont kid yourself. Life is too short. Just buy one. Who cares where it came from.

[ArtNouveau]

My personal tip is calling around is a waste of time. Any SS Daytona AD sale is going to start with an in person visit.

[nektar]

Originally Posted by T3F

Get over the stigma of buying from a grey dealer or reseller and buy from them, as you'll waste time and money trying to move up an AD's list if all you really want is a Daytona. The "premium" doesn't really exist -- the "retail" price determined by Rolex is artificially low, and when an AD sells you on at it, their essentially selling it at a discount to the true market price.

Miracles may happen.. And members of the forum get the call!!!


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[T3F]

Originally Posted by nektar

Miracles may happen.. And members of the forum get the call!!!


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They might, but only very rarely. I feel comfortable in saying there's a less than 1% chance of getting a SS Daytona from an AD where you have no purchase history within 5 years.

If you have the money and are set on a Daytona, just buy one from the secondary market. You'll waste time, energy, and likely money (convincing yourself that you like a certain watch and buying it when you really are just trying to move up the list) trying to coax an AD into giving you one, and you likely won't succeed unless you part ways with a lot of dough. It's not like you're getting ripped off paying the so-called "premium," either -- it's unlikely you'll lose much money, if any, if you decide to sell later on.

[Skwisgaar]

Originally Posted by ArtNouveau

My personal tip is calling around is a waste of time. Any SS Daytona AD sale is going to start with an in person visit.

This.

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[oldman2005]

Just wait around...maybe the next recession

[Rolexavidfan]

Initially I like the WG Daytona. But having test wear it by an hour during a GTG dinner, I find them on the heavy side. So now I am going back to the SS Daytona C.


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[jfoord27]

Waiting lists for the SS are full. Wait for the next version and get on as many lists as you can on Day 1.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by 1234567890!

No. I would be willing to pay over MSRP to an AD - it isn't due to the money, so I wouldn't just assume.

If you are willing to pay over MSRP to an AD but not to a grey market re seller you are, my friend, simply shooting yourself in the foot.

Life is too short to be principled to that degree. If you want one and you are happy to pay the premium, just do it.

Your options, in the order of relevance:

1) Pay over MSRP to a trusted seller
2) Pay over MSRP but less than you would to a trusted seller to a private seller
3) Buy a PM Daytona from an AD for MSRP (or even slightly less)
4) Wait a good number of years to buy a SS from an AD
5) Spend your way up the list or offer to bundle with something in PM (most likely from a smaller independent AD)

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by 1234567890!

I can't even walk into an AD and try a model on. How has it not ruined interest in the brand or product?

Interest in the brand and product is at an all time high. That's hardly what I'd call "ruined"

[Quicksilver]

Originally Posted by Devildog

If you are willing to pay over MSRP to an AD but not to a grey market re seller you are, my friend, simply shooting yourself in the foot.

Life is too short to be principled to that degree. If you want one and you are happy to pay the premium, just do it.

Your options, in the order of relevance:

1) Pay over MSRP to a trusted seller
2) Pay over MSRP but less than you would to a trusted seller to a private seller
3) Buy a PM Daytona from an AD for MSRP (or even slightly less)
4) Wait a good number of years to buy a SS from an AD
5) Spend your way up the list or offer to bundle with something in PM (most likely from a smaller independent AD)

I agree. What's the difference paying over MSRP to a grey or an AD? AD's play the market as much as grey's - after all, the grey's get their stock from AD's in the first place?

It is an incontrovertible fact of life that to get a Daytona you have to pay a premium. That premium will take the form of either buying a load of other watches from an AD or a cash premium to a grey. Now, if you want those other watches from the AD then that's fine - if not, then its a no-brainer, you are better paying the relatively modest premium to a grey.

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

Options

1 - go on the 8 year wait list
2 - go on the 8 year wait list and start buying other timepieces and jewelry to move up the list
3 - start calling every single AD and “hope” you strike gold and get lucky
4- buy from Grey
5- buy pre-owned
6 - buy Omega Speedy
7 - go to another brand
8 - save your money




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Pretty much.

Originally Posted by neurotichamster8

you want a ss
but you need pm

Goodness gracious. No one can ever say that isn't a gorgeous watch.

[Robbyman]

Originally Posted by neurotichamster8

you want a ss

but you need pm

I tried one on next to my white 116500 and it blew my DaytonaC away. I was so surprised about just how gorgeous it is.

[neurotichamster8]

Originally Posted by Robbyman

I tried one on next to my white 116500 and it blew my DaytonaC away. I was so surprised about just how gorgeous it is.

[Locust]

Originally Posted by neurotichamster8

you want a ss
but you need pm

This. I would just get that one on oyster flex. Or start calling everywhere, be really nice on the phone and find an AD in a smaller market.

[josephvman]

I love my Daytona C and was lucky enough to get it at MSRP, but frankly at the current market price there are more interesting options. I’d buy a Royal Oak chrono personally, and wait for things to settle down on the Daytona front. At least the AP indicates you are truly a watch lover and not just a trophy hunter.

[ArtNouveau]

The Vacheron Constantin Overseas chrono is also a heavyweight option if you’re willing to spend $20K+.

[loobster09]

You should consider the new ceramic Pepsi

[FirstF80InSpace]

My strategy is to pick up the 116519 at some point. I’m on two wait lists for the past two years and I don’t feel I’m any closer to the 116500.

After seeing many 116500 vs 116519 comparisons, I want the 116519 even more. I like how the case is slightly larger than the 116500. And the dial is pure ❤️❤️❤️.

[2nastie]

Welcome to the world of the Daytona SS. If you want it that badly, buy it from a grey/re-seller.

If not, maybe a spend 100k at certain ADs to change their minds.


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Other than that, welcome to the forums, please feel free to take a number and line-up with the rest of us. Almost everyone here is wanting to solve the mystery of convincing an AD to sell us a Daytona C at MSRP in a reasonable amount of time with zero BS attached.

[R!$]

get on the list with your AD and wait patiently

[Dilemma]

Four-Five years ago I was lusting for a SS Daytona in the worst way and was considering selling my three pieces to obtain it - A Sub two-liner, a Pepsi GMT-Master II and finally my Polar Explorer II. Back then you could walk into an AD and walk out with a Daytona for approximately $11K.

I did what I typically do when considering a purchase of this nature. I agonized, looked for just the right deal, agonized some more, slept on it, agonized a little more for good measure and finally decided maybe losing three watches and replacing it was one was, well, foolish.

Flash forward to today and I'm glad I didn't follow through with my plan. I LIKE the three I have for different reasons. The Sub because a two-liner is a bit of a throwback to the original Sub. Non-cluttered. It just looks 'right' to me. The Pepsi is probably the most popular of the three although it's the outer limit for flash for me. Still, I really didn't care to part with it. It had and has good memories attached to it. The Polar is a model that you don't typically see a lot of. Furthermore it was a gift from my wife. She was OK with the potential trade but in the end? I couldn't let a watch go she purchased for me.

Carry on Rolmaniacs!

--T

[nektar]

Originally Posted by T3F

They might, but only very rarely. I feel comfortable in saying there's a less than 1% chance of getting a SS Daytona from an AD where you have no purchase history within 5 years.



If you have the money and are set on a Daytona, just buy one from the secondary market. You'll waste time, energy, and likely money (convincing yourself that you like a certain watch and buying it when you really are just trying to move up the list) trying to coax an AD into giving you one, and you likely won't succeed unless you part ways with a lot of dough. It's not like you're getting ripped off paying the so-called "premium," either -- it's unlikely you'll lose much money, if any, if you decide to sell later on.

I believe you will lose money if you pay a premium and you decide to sell later on.


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[simbal]

Originally Posted by 1234567890!

I can't even walk into an AD and try a model on. How has it not ruined interest in the brand or product?

products like this typically scarce = precious = interest = high demand
you see this in cars, bags...etc

[zengineer]

Originally Posted by 1234567890!

I can't even walk into an AD and try a model on. How has it not ruined interest in the brand or product?

First of all, despite the pervasive talk about them on forums, grey market dealers are a tiny sliver of the overall market. Most ADs probably have very little or even no participation in the grey market. The cases are empty because the demand is high. The SS models sell fast at retail price. It doesn't matter of it is sold direct to a customer or passes thru a grey reseller.... its still not there in the case for you.

A customer who spends a ton on high markup jewelry or pays up for less popular watches to get a SS watch is the same as a grey dealer. ADs are businesses.

[emtee]

Originally Posted by 1234567890!

I can't even walk into an AD and try a model on. How has it not ruined interest in the brand or product?

Because people want what they can’t have. Or what other people can’t have :)

It’s the kid in all of us, when someone tells you “no” it just makes you wanna do it even more

[emtee]

Originally Posted by nektar

I believe you will lose money if you pay a premium and you decide to sell later on.


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Depends who you buy it from and who you sell it to and when. I remember I passed on the previous Daytona a good few years ago for 8K. I’d be quids in right now

[Spoonage]

My opinion... SS DaytonaC at MSRP is a good buy, grey prices not so much. I got mine at MSRP, no down payment, in 3 months. I simply walked in talked to the sales manager asked about a white dial, and I was promised the next one in. But you have to build a relationship with an AD and that doesnt only mean buying watches/jewelry. Face time with the sales reps (even better the sales manager), appearance at events, etc. Talking about other things other than the hottest watch that everyone wants helps as well. Many of the AD want to know you're not going to flip these pieces. They want a longterm client and not a one and done thanks for the hottest piece.