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I would prefer a split second function if anything.
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Open mouth, shove foot in it.
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All you need do is look at Tudor to find chronos with dates. It's no biggy but it wouldn't be a Daytona. Daytonas are tradition; not so a Datetona.
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Have to agree many of these so called complications are just complications for complications sake.And in the real world after reading the thousands of posts on forum how many even use these complications, even the simple time lapse bezels on dive watches.Many seem to think it must be left within a cats whisker of the 12 marker.
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If the Daytona has a date it would be the most perfect watch for me. At the moment it’s my ym40 but Daytona date would be the best.
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A flyback cannot time two things simultaneously, it zeros the seconds and immediately begins timing again from scratch. A rattrapante can be a flyback as well. But they are two distinct features. |
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Just wondering? Why would you want to start a second time run when you haven’t even had time to look at previous result? You can’t reset a flyback as I just cross the line and read the result at the same time? Now if the watch had two independent timers...... ![]()
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but if i’m timing something it doesn’t bug me.
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There are plenty of ways they could incorporate a date feature on the Daytona. Omega even has a couple models that keep the three subdials but add a date at the six. I think it looks just fine and would make the Daytona a much more useful watch.
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I am perhaps one of the few that uses their chronos daily as part of their job. However, I got rid of my Daytona because the larger issue is that the elapsed minutes cannot be read accurately due to the lack of hashmarks, rendering the watch jewelry-which is why I gave it to my wife. In my daily use of my chronos over the past 20 years I can’t say that I would ever need the fly back function. So adding a fly back without improving readability would be useless.
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As for the lack of a date feature on the Daytona, that's one reason this dial is so iconically beautiful. A date feature would ruin it, IMHO. I've yet to see a chronograph with a date feature that I like, whether it's a $500 watch or a $50,000 watch. The placement always bugs me, especially when it's jammed between the 4 and 5 o'clock hour markers (are you listening AP?) I think that's also a reason the classic Omega Speedmaster is so beautiful. |
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Did not mean to get the date on Daytona debate going. My original question was if anyone else would like to see a flyback function on the Daytona. Appreciate everyones thoughts and suggestions. This is a great place.
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Could add a split seconds hand too.
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Well hard to read is an understatement. I was using my Daytona to time something at work and could not tell how many minutes elapsed. This is especially problematic between 9 to 12 minutes then again between 19 to 22 minutes. And I agree about the date I have a speedmaster and had the Daytona and the dials do look cleaner. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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It certainly would be a good move for the next iteration to have flyback, but but also to reinstate the 6 missing indexes to the minute sub-dial.
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In any shape or form a date window would ruin the look of the Daytona imo. Aesthetically it's most beautiful as it stand right now.
Functionality, it's up to the user. Of course an added complication is "functionally" better but to be honest I don't use my watch to look at the date. 99.99% its just for the time (and man-jewelry lol). I either remember the date already or have other handy means of finding out. I highly doubt anyone actually uses the chronograph for its function either. Majority of time it's people fidgeting and play around with the chrono buttons. Time only/no-date watches are typically my go to. I bought my Daytona for the nostalgia, history, and looks... the rest either didn't matter or came with the watch if I'm honest. |
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I wouldn't use the flyback feature, I don't think. Whenever I use a timer I like to stop it and have the elapsed time value static there so I can refer to it later.
But I would never buy a watch without a date function on it -- I use the date constantly (I can never remember what day it is!). So if I ever get a chronograph, it will probably be the (Rolex-owned) Tudor chronograph. And I guess (from a previous post) that I'm one of the few that use the complications on my watches. I use my GMT-II when traveling to keep track of home and away timezones. And I even use the rotatable bezel on the GMT-II to track elapsed minutes. Why would you get a watch and not use it's features? -Dan
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But the minutes register on the Daytona does have hashmarks as noted above so I’m not sure I follow. As for the OP, I have a fly back chrono, but it’s not a particularly useful function unless you have a photographic memory. A split second chrono should fit the bill, but they can get pricey.
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No, so look very closely at the minute subdial on the Daytona. Now, it has 30, at top, 10, then 20. Now, press the start button. After a minute is moves from the 30 to like the 0 hash mark which is actually 1 minute of elapsed time. now let it run to 8. This is the last hash mark before the 10, so figuring out 9, 10, and 11 get fuzzy. Now the next hash mark after 10 is 12 not 11. Presumably the 0 after the 10 serves as the hashmark for 11. This problem repeats itself between 18-22 again rendering telling if it is like 19/20 or telling if it’s 20/21 almost practically impossible. Check it, it’s a real design flaw, and not how the Daytona was in the 70’s and early 80’s. I mean sure good for steaks, but for watches are about function and I rely on them for my job and need them to work. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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If the minute sub-dial hand is just past the zero on 10, 20 or 30, you know it's 11, 21 or 31 (or 1). If it's on that first hashmark past a zero, you know it's 12, 22, or 32 ( or 2). Design-wise, if there was an extra hashmark in there at the 1, 11, 21, it would be too crowded, I think, and even harder to read. |
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