“The Supercase was a mistake!”

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by peterpl

I Seriously wonder if most the comments are coming from guys that actually have worn the new one and the old one right next to each other? Or guys just talking out of their air hole?

Seriously can you honestly say its that much of a difference? Its pretty much identical. LMFAO.

The differences are so subtle, it is hardly different. The new Sub case still has squarish shaped lugs which appear "slightly" narrower due to a wider bracelet/endlinks. I have a 7.5 inch wrist and my 116618 fits me great and looks great. I have no reason to go 126618. Mine is a keeper. And for those who "think" the 11 series case was a mistake, tell that to the millions of Sub owners out there who don't pay attention to watch forums. I guarantee you most don't even know what case "lugs" are. They see the watch, buy it and wear it. Simple.

[Junior_]

Have to be honest. I love the 114060.

I also love the 124060.

And the 14060.

[brandog]

Rolex doesn't make mistakes

[Bigblu10]

Funny nobody here will mention that the GMT case is still basically like an 11 series Sub case. And nobody seems to think it is a mistake. Especially when they will pay almost double MSRP for a stainless steel BLRO. Oh the irony.

[JRell]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Funny nobody here will mention that the GMT case is still basically like an 11 series Sub case. And nobody seems to think it is a mistake. Especially when they will pay almost double MSRP for a stainless steel BLRO. Oh the irony.

This is true.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by Lol-x

We're talking pure aesthetics of 1-2mm on the lugs which to me is de minimis non curat lex.

I agree.

There once was a lawyer named Tex ... ... ...

[Psmith]

The most successful 'mistake' in watch history. Subtle differences, but I prefer the 11' series with its slightly more muscular look. To me, it has a surety of line which has been slightly lost now - a bit like a well-designed car which gets a mid-cycle refresh and loses something in the process. But all Subs are nice watches - some prefer particular references, others like them all. What I don't understand is this burning desire by some to 'prove' that their personal opinion is fact.

[Andad]

Originally Posted by vh2k

https://youtu.be/DnalC9GMB5g

“The Supercase was a mistake,” claims C&C.

Definitive Submariner guide from Crown & Caliber.

Great resource. Do you agree?

Based on sales at the time so was the 6241?

[David001]

I like both, I liked the bigger lugs and I like the 1680 shape as well.
The TT LN Sub worked better with bigger lugs IMO. The SS with the slimmer ones.

The 'maxicase' was more masculine and the Instagram crowd with fake tan, pouty lips and big diamond earrings (I'm talking about the men) seem to prefer the more feminine look, so the more svelte profile has been welcomed.

[thenewrick]

Originally Posted by David001

I like both, I liked the bigger lugs and I like the 1680 shape as well.
The TT LN Sub worked better with bigger lugs IMO. The SS with the slimmer ones.

The 'maxicase' was more masculine and the Instagram crowd with fake tan, pouty lips and big diamond earrings (I'm talking about the men) seem to prefer the more feminine look, so the more svelte profile has been welcomed.

I find the maxicase to look like a smaller guy wearing his dad's clothes. The dial seemed small and floaty on the oversized case and it looked a little try hard on the wrist.

These are of course always opinions.

[Kowaco]

Very good review I always thought Rolex was trying to get into that oversized look and now it’s to blocky. Just not aesthetically pleasing.


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[Oystersteel]

Originally Posted by bcat37645

i love the supercase...was unique and bold...the new submariner is lovely, but it looks a bit plain now.

+1

[Kowaco]

Originally Posted by Kowaco

Very good review I always thought Rolex was trying to get into that oversized look and now it’s too blocky. Just not aesthetically pleasing.


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[David5807]

Originally Posted by rossi46

You can like the Supercase lugs, but that don't make 'em pretty

The Oyster case was never meant to have such fat lugs. They had the design right back in the '50s and I'm glad for Rolex to see the error in their ways. They may have sold a ton but, aesthetically speaking, the Supercase was a miss.

The lugs on the 11-series get such an overexaggeratedly bad rap. This may just be my opinion, but do people really consider these to be fat and huge lugs? I just don't get it
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[David5807]

Originally Posted by Brny11

The irony on 116xxx lugs is great. People hate the fat lugs, it’s the worst, Rolex made a mistake, etc... Unless it is on the LV or gmt master, then it’s cool. Forum opinions are very inconsistent. Seems like people just follow the crowd nowadays.

[Jster]

Obviously a mistake. It’s still too chunky.

[mykii]

Really bad analysis that I can't agree with.

[ROLEXster]

Not a huge difference, but there is a difference.
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[mykii]

Originally Posted by ROLEXster

Not a huge difference, but there is a difference.
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To me the biggest difference isn't the lugs, but the bracelet and clasp. And the wider bracelet and lack of taper is definitively NOT a good thing for me. I've had many watches with 21mm bracelets, and many without taper, and it has never, ever, worked.

That said, I'd be very happy to own one still. I just wish I got a 114060 before discontinuation.

[David5807]

Originally Posted by mykii

To me the biggest difference isn't the lugs, but the bracelet and clasp. And the wider bracelet and lack of taper is definitively NOT a good thing for me. I've had many watches with 21mm bracelets, and many without taper, and it has never, ever, worked.

That said, I'd be very happy to own one still. I just wish I got a 114060 before discontinuation.

Bracelet and clasp are pretty big from what I've seen
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[Oystersteel]

Originally Posted by David5807

Bracelet and clasp are pretty big from what I've seen
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I definitely prefer the FatBoy

[Wembleyisgreen]

Originally Posted by David5807

Bracelet and clasp are pretty big from what I've seen
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Fatboy 100%

[MrJKLFoams]

Its not a mistake! Its the HYPE HYPE Hooorreeyyy! that they trying to build up since most of the people are kinda not happy with this new 40.5mm submariner I would say the sheeples following the trend. So all these YouTube hypbeast needs to fuel the seen so they can get more money.

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Bigblu10

I guarantee you most don't even know what case "lugs" are.

You're probably right.
As long as it has Rolex on the dial, they're set
In this watch market with the way it has been in recent times, Rolex could put some dodgy movement into a piece of dried cat shite, then call it a watch and sell it to people lining up around the corner to spend loads of cash just to get on "the list".

[Dirt]

Originally Posted by Andad

Based on sales at the time so was the 6241?

And all the other Subs that have been sold over the decades.

[ndrs63]

I respectfully disagree with C&C


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[Sandpit]

Originally Posted by David5807

Bracelet and clasp are pretty big from what I've seen
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The new bracelet width looks really really weird. It's almost like that photo has been messed with and stretched.

[AK797]

For me it was essential as I had a DSSD and an Omega 45 at the time and the Sub looked so small and dainty otherwise, so it helped with me transitioning to a collection of 40-45mm.

[Gerardus]

Originally Posted by Turnaround

The dance at the top of the video was an even bigger mistake.

My opinion also, it takes -partly- away the serious message this dancing clown wants to bring.
Furthermore this serious part looks like a promo for -only- the new"12" generation.

This dancer forgot to talk about all the complaints regarding the new movements and the costs it will bring after the warranty is expired.....

[MJ8]

Prefer the fat boy.