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17 May 2024, 06:25 PM | #31 |
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Picked up the watches I want in a short space of time with no pre-spend, & always nice to pop in to see my AD just for a watch chat. |
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17 May 2024, 06:49 PM | #33 |
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If you could via reddit do what they did with the Gamestop stock and get everyone stop buying rolexes until it because so desperate for ADs they need to sell then you will get your watch.
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17 May 2024, 07:12 PM | #34 |
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You’re darn right there’s a problem …. The last time I picked up a watch they didn’t even offer me a diet coke
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17 May 2024, 08:25 PM | #35 |
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When a difficult to obtain Tudor became easily available I bought it. Until it went into general availability I couldn't be bothered with the inconvenience involved with waiting for it or collecting it. I guess I fall outside the notional 100%.
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17 May 2024, 08:26 PM | #36 |
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17 May 2024, 08:27 PM | #37 |
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17 May 2024, 09:47 PM | #38 |
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In the UK Tudors go on reduced rrp if you wait long enough.
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17 May 2024, 09:53 PM | #39 |
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I would say having ADs only carry Rolex would solve the problem but in my experience even the boutique stores offer similar service.
I’m old enough now to realize I’m not that important and I don’t care.
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I get it. You can not buy a watch you want from an AD at msrp when you want. Nothing wrong with wanting and nothing wrong with feeling like it is not fair. But what is.
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17 May 2024, 10:21 PM | #41 |
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17 May 2024, 10:25 PM | #42 |
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It's nice to have a watch dealer which is staffed by WISs, or a HiFi dealer who loves music, or a car dealer stuffed with petrolheads. Could be some of us are just lucky with our choices. It could also be a geographic thing. I suspect it also depends on the people on both sides of the counter.
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17 May 2024, 10:30 PM | #43 | |
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The problem isn’t with Rolex, it is with their ADs.
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People on this forum often point out the abundant amount of Rolexes on the grey market for sale. Well, it’s because they don’t sell as quickly as the new models at an AD. That’s why they’re available. But we know Rolex does not like the flippers and I’d guess they’ll continue to take steps to counter them. Plus, I don’t think the problem is as acute as people on TRF think it is. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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17 May 2024, 10:43 PM | #44 |
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I would say there is no problem at all. People can either buy at market price or not. That price can be higher or lower than MSRP. If Rolex really wanted to eliminate resellers of “new” watches, they would allow their dealers to sell new watches for what the market will bear. And a little competition among dealers would be a good thing. Go to a Porsche dealer and try to buy a GT3RS. They will certainly make one available in time but the price will be substantially more than MSRP. That’s what the word “suggested” means.
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17 May 2024, 10:59 PM | #45 |
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Not sure this could ever work. Once I buy a watch from an AD, it is mine to do whatever I want with it. Not sure your suggestion could or would hold up legally.
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17 May 2024, 11:21 PM | #46 |
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I agree there is a problem with ADs - the fact that they lie right to your face. Statements claiming they haven’t seen a Pepsi all year, etc. are absolutely maddening
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17 May 2024, 11:29 PM | #49 |
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I would be completely fine with the warranty being non-transferable and only available to the original owner. This would really limit the use of SS Daytonas as money laundering vehicles.
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17 May 2024, 11:40 PM | #50 |
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The warranty must accompany the product but there are ways of tuning it. By way of an example of something similar but less draconian, in the UK Naim Audio offer a 2 year warranty which is transferable. The first owner has the option of registering for a 3 year extension (making five years in total) which is not transferable.
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17 May 2024, 11:45 PM | #51 |
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It used to be fairly easy to walk into a store and get anything you wanted that wasn’t a steel Daytona or off catalogue. Most pieces (except for those mentioned) sold BNIB on the gray market for under MSRP.
It was even possible to buy new from an AD with a discount. Would you say there is more or less demand for their products now? I’d say there is higher demand. As much as people complain when they get a call to buy something that is literally free money then guess what they’re happy about it. |
17 May 2024, 11:58 PM | #52 |
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OPs assumption that the grey market listings are actually watches that the seller has on hand is mostly mistaken. Other than trusted sellers that carry inventory, most of the listings, particularly the most over priced, are by people who will try to source the watch to resell if they get a buyer who wants to pay the inflate price.
You will read stories onTRF an out delays in getting watches bought online. If the seller actually owned the watch that you just bought, you should have it the next business day, the next one after that at worst. It’s because once they lock in the buyer, they’re have to scramble to but the watch for less than the price obtained Don’t get me started on listings where the price is too good to be true. It is.run away |
18 May 2024, 12:18 AM | #53 |
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The 'problem' is supply versus demand.
Ferrari had / has this problem, and Mr. Enzo Ferrari was... so a guy called Lamborghini started his brand of cars. So njlam, sounds like it is time you create and sell your own brand of timepieces. What name brand will your timepieces sell under? How long until you think you can get it all up and operating? Please ensure your brand's after-sales service is top-notch too, thanks.
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18 May 2024, 12:31 AM | #54 |
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18 May 2024, 01:10 AM | #56 |
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The Problem is the "Emperor's New Cloths Syndrome" ....
Customers have, in recent years, been hankering after something that is more than the sum of its parts in their minds. The watches, after all, are just nice, mass produced common items. There is nothing "exclusive" about owning a Rolex , yet people seem to think otherwise. I once pointed out the frankly lazy finishing on the underside lugs of a 2019 Submariner Date to an owner and the response was predictable : " Ah , yes , but at the end of the day, I own a Rolex ". Rolex are nice watches. Some of them are very nice. But they are not any more exceptional in reality than the other mass produced watches in their price bracket. A lot of "shallow buyers" [ as a watch commentator recently put it ] are pulling back from Rolex buying simply because "everyone seems to have one now". Malaga Airport is evidence of this every spring when you see your corporate and chaps golfing holiday arrivals shuffling through immigration all with their Roleys earned by their last sales commission ..... I have never seen so many Rolex watches in my life to be honest. But I think the tide is turning and the Brand will slowing return to the true watch enthusiasts , those that appreciate them for what they are. I am an optimist and still a great fan of this brand. |
18 May 2024, 01:16 AM | #57 |
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I have no problems with AD's or Rolex. If the AD likes you, you get watches. If they don't, you don't. I've gotten what I've asked for with no spend history and a modest wait. My AD has been nothing but courteous and open with info.
I agree with other posters that the problem is with customers. And it's not even a problem in my mind. I think people need to have some introspection and ask themselves why they want white dial Daytonas and Pepsis right now and don't want to wait.
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