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Old 31 May 2024, 06:22 AM   #31
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I'd probably go with a KV (preowned) or Gronefeld (just the Principia)...time only. I'd not feel the need to meet the full $100K budget.

Of the Journes, The Chrono Optimum would be my choice.

The Journe CB is just not worth it at the after-market price IMO.
Which KV can one get at $100K? Even Vingt-8 goes for $120k the way i see it..
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Old 31 May 2024, 06:40 AM   #32
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Which KV can one get at $100K? Even Vingt-8 goes for $120k the way i see it..
Don't know, but I thought they are at or below $100K. If not, then obviously have to remove it from the list, and that's unfortunate.
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Old 31 May 2024, 07:50 AM   #33
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Don't know, but I thought they are at or below $100K. If not, then obviously have to remove it from the list, and that's unfortunate.
Pretty sure all are over 100k second hand and new has a huge wait.
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Old 31 May 2024, 08:05 AM   #34
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Thanks all for the ideas, though some of you didn’t quite understand the budget part of the brief .

My top choice is a Vingt-8, but Voutilainen’s stuff is just way too much above $100k to stretch for it. I’m still considering the LM101 and LM Split Escapement Evo as MB&F checks a lot of the boxes with their reputation/stature, manufacture movements (hello KV and Stephen McDonnell respectively), and overall style.

I’ve come across Armin Strom’s work before, but I’m going to look much more in depth about the Mirrored Force Resonance now. The Grönefeld
1941 Remontoire is cool as well, but is right at the border of the price limit. Will try to see that one in the metal as well.
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Old 31 May 2024, 08:56 AM   #35
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The Armin Strom 1 week is really cool!
I just don't know if Id love the blue over the long haul.
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Old 31 May 2024, 08:57 AM   #36
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The Armin Strom 1 week is really cool!
I just don't know if Id love the blue over the long haul.
You can probably customize the color. Just email them.
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Old 31 May 2024, 12:33 PM   #37
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Thanks all for the ideas, though some of you didn’t quite understand the budget part of the brief .

My top choice is a Vingt-8, but Voutilainen’s stuff is just way too much above $100k to stretch for it. I’m still considering the LM101 and LM Split Escapement Evo as MB&F checks a lot of the boxes with their reputation/stature, manufacture movements (hello KV and Stephen McDonnell respectively), and overall style.

I’ve come across Armin Strom’s work before, but I’m going to look much more in depth about the Mirrored Force Resonance now. The Grönefeld
1941 Remontoire is cool as well, but is right at the border of the price limit. Will try to see that one in the metal as well.
As a recent Principia owner if you can get a pre-owned Remontoire at the right price point and condition you should go for it. I’m very happy with my Principia but man do I wish I was able to get the Remontoire.

Still, a ton of great options out there. I think you have a fun but difficult choice to make. Whatever you choose please keep us updated.
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Old 31 May 2024, 05:47 PM   #38
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As a recent Principia owner if you can get a pre-owned Remontoire at the right price point and condition you should go for it. I’m very happy with my Principia but man do I wish I was able to get the Remontoire.

Still, a ton of great options out there. I think you have a fun but difficult choice to make. Whatever you choose please keep us updated.
I think the remontoire trades for more than 100
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