Starbucks Mk1 vs 2

[omar10213245]

Originally Posted by ColoradoTime

I have the Starbucks with MKII bezel. I love the color and much prefer it to the MKI. My buddy has a hulk and here is a pic of the 2 side by side if that helps.


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i think you might be a little past due for some moisturizing cream for those hands, brother!

[ColoradoTime]

Originally Posted by omar10213245

i think you might be a little past due for some moisturizing cream for those hands, brother!

Ha!! That’s my buddy. I’m holding the Starbucks. But it’s hysterical - I literally get that comment every time I’ve shown that pic! 😂


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[nr1416]

MK2 hands down and I've owned both MK1 and MK2.

[omar10213245]

Originally Posted by ColoradoTime

Ha!! That’s my buddy. I’m holding the Starbucks. But it’s hysterical - I literally get that comment every time I’ve shown that pic! 😂


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lol! throw your buddy a jar of CeraVe or Aquaphor or somethin'!

[enjoythemusic]

MKIII.....

[jb335]

Originally Posted by Paddydog52

Mk1 trades lower than the Mk2 so if you’re looking for the best value over time then Mk1 is better as not only does it cost a good few hundred less it will likely be worth more than the Mk2 in time if as presumed the Mk2 isn’t discontinued for a number of years meaning there will be far less of the Mk1 around as it had a relatively short production run of only 3 years so the Mk1 should turn out similar to the hulk performance wise post 2030.

Seems like you’re not too concerned about future value and more the colour therefore you should just go for whatever colour you prefer.

Best of luck to you.

Yeah, because the mk2 is newer. Within the same reference, newer gets a premium. Usually better/newer condition and more warranty.


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[Farran]

Originally Posted by Daytona king

The hulk and the mk1 Starbucks have identical colored bezels. Get the mk2. My buddy just got one and loves it.


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Mk2 is an absolute beauty IMO

[DoricSpiker]

Originally Posted by TheDon2000

Padi enjoys coming into nearly every thread and dumping his garbage, dragging down most conversations by fighting the futile fights such as the nicknames for watches. Swimming upstream, if you will. He enjoys that.

He threatened us all years ago that he was quitting TRF because the community had changed at it was too much for him. What with people calling watches investments and all; he was fed up. But I guess he chickened out on quitting cold turkey. Tens of thousands of posts later, I don't know if he's contributed much of late besides the sarcasm.

He contributes so don’t worry about that.


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[Paddydog52]

Originally Posted by jb335

Yeah, because the mk2 is newer. Within the same reference, newer gets a premium. Usually better/newer condition and more warranty.


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The Mk1 will be more valuable than the Mk2 post 2028 as the 5 year warranty issue will be redundant, presuming the 126610LV model is still in production at that point in time there will be far less Mk1 available due to the short 3 year run, basically the longer this reference stays in production the higher it is setting up the asking price of the Mk1 variant come 2028 onwards, it’s just one of these situations where currently the Mk2 seems more valuable but in 3/4/5 years time the Mk1 will trade at a premium to the Mk2, perhaps a 1-£3,000 premium. not much foresight required to understand what will likely occur in a few years time with regards to this issue.

Obviously am referring to a like for like condition wise come that point in time, arbitrary figures here but say 300,000 Mk1 out in the wild compared to perhaps 800,000 Mk2 come 2028 if it is correct that Rolex produce around 100,000 per year of this particular model and that’s not even taking into account the new Rolex factory apparently coming 2029 which could mean even more Mk1 produced.

I realise that terms like value, profit and investment are considered dirty words here but if anyone is keeping those things in mind then if there are Mk1 and Mk2 in the same condition available then for the reasons above I’d go for the Mk1

[jb335]

Originally Posted by Paddydog52

The Mk1 will be more valuable than the Mk2 post 2028 as the 5 year warranty issue will be redundant, presuming the 126610LV model is still in production at that point in time there will be far less Mk1 available due to the short 3 year run, basically the longer this reference stays in production the higher it is setting up the asking price of the Mk1 variant come 2028 onwards, it’s just one of these situations where currently the Mk2 seems more valuable but in 3/4/5 years time the Mk1 will trade at a premium to the Mk2, perhaps a 1-£3,000 premium. not much foresight required to understand what will likely occur in a few years time with regards to this issue.

Obviously am referring to a like for like condition wise come that point in time, arbitrary figures here but say 300,000 Mk1 out in the wild compared to perhaps 800,000 Mk2 come 2028 if it is correct that Rolex produce around 100,000 per year of this particular model and that’s not even taking into account the new Rolex factory apparently coming 2029 which could mean even more Mk1 produced.

I realise that terms like value, profit and investment are considered dirty words here but if anyone is keeping those things in mind then if there are Mk1 and Mk2 in the same condition available then for the reasons above I’d go for the Mk1

Yes, I agree and that was my point. I just didnt make it clear. That premium the mk2 is currently getting for being newer won’t exist for much longer.


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[JRell]

Originally Posted by jb335

Yes, I agree and that was my point. I just didnt make it clear. That premium the mk2 is currently getting for being newer won’t exist for much longer.


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We don’t know how long MK2 will be around. Who knows it could be gone next year.

[jb335]

Originally Posted by JRell

We don’t know how long MK2 will be around. Who knows it could be gone next year.

My fault, I have not taken the time to better articulate myself.

I’m not saying the current premium for mk2 is due to lesser supply, I am saying it is mostly due to all the mk2s on the market are newer than an mk1 and therefore have more warranty left and also presumably in better condition being newer too, and that is why they got a bit more. More warranty and better condition.

As more mk2s age and lose warranty and condition, that premium will diminish and even go away and we will see if there is a true premium solely for the different shade of green.


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[Paddydog52]

Originally Posted by JRell

We don’t know how long MK2 will be around. Who knows it could be gone next year.

Obviously the Mk2 could be gone next year but unlikely I would say bearing in mind I can’t think of any modern SS sub that Rolex have discontinued after only 12 months, wouldn’t be complaining if they did as from a Mk1 owners point of view it will mean that the 126610LV reference will be discontinued so the value will increase of Mk1 and Mk2 but obviously if the situation arose of only a 12 month production run the Mk2 would trade at a decent premium to the Mk1 moving forward, probably forever.

I would be astonished if the Mk2 was discontinued after 12 months but never say never with Rolex!

[jb335]

I’m just so proud of TRF that we are 44 posts in and no one has disputed the existence of a difference between the bezel colors.


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[Kiddodoc]

Have owned all versions of the LV. The bezel of the hulk and MK1 looks watered down compared to the new MK2. Of all the LV's, I currently own the MK2. The hulk has an amazing dial though.

[Cassian739]

Originally Posted by jb335

I’m just so proud of TRF that we are 44 posts in and no one has disputed the existence of a difference between the bezel colors.

Bhahaha

[SLWoodster]

Have had both. It literally does not matter. The green sports watch upgrade is the green 5168g or the 5711 green dial. If you’re into vintage-ish then flat 4.

[dmash]

MK2 is superior and not even close in my opinion. It’s what I specifically bought as well

Originally Posted by Kiddodoc

Have owned all versions of the LV. The bezel of the hulk and MK1 looks watered down compared to the new MK2. Of all the LV's, I currently own the MK2. The hulk has an amazing dial though.

I found the hulk cool in pics but borderline ridiculous on wrist in person. Holy green overload. It’s not subtle at all

[SLWoodster]

Have had both. It literally does not matter. Color is too similar. Experience is the same.

The green sports watch upgrade is the green AP 41 time date or chrono, then 5168g or the 5711 green dial

Vintage is the flat 4.

If you want to go dressier and stay on brand, green sky dweller or day date would be next.

[SLWoodster]

here’s both on video

https://www.reddit.com/r/rolex/comme...t=share_button

[MplsMN]

Originally Posted by SLWoodster

here’s both on video

https://www.reddit.com/r/rolex/comme...t=share_button

Thank you! :)

[Paddydog52]

Originally Posted by Paddydog52

The Mk1 will be more valuable than the Mk2 post 2028 as the 5 year warranty issue will be redundant, presuming the 126610LV model is still in production at that point in time there will be far less Mk1 available due to the short 3 year run, basically the longer this reference stays in production the higher it is setting up the asking price of the Mk1 variant come 2028 onwards, it’s just one of these situations where currently the Mk2 seems more valuable but in 3/4/5 years time the Mk1 will trade at a premium to the Mk2, perhaps a 1-£3,000 premium. not much foresight required to understand what will likely occur in a few years time with regards to this issue.

Obviously am referring to a like for like condition wise come that point in time, arbitrary figures here but say 300,000 Mk1 out in the wild compared to perhaps 800,000 Mk2 come 2028 if it is correct that Rolex produce around 100,000 per year of this particular model and that’s not even taking into account the new Rolex factory apparently coming 2029 which could mean even more Mk1 produced.

I realise that terms like value, profit and investment are considered dirty words here but if anyone is keeping those things in mind then if there are Mk1 and Mk2 in the same condition available then for the reasons above I’d go for the Mk1

Correction on the amount of Mk1 produced, I believe there were around 75,000 per year produced so a total of 225,000 out there max. Apparently the exact production figures for each submariner model from 1954-present is shown in that new submariner book that Rolex have recently released so I’m sure someone who has that book can confirm the exact figure. Pretty sure it’s round 75,000 per year for Mk1 while it was in production.

[RoRoRo]

Originally Posted by TheDon2000

Padi enjoys coming into nearly every thread and dumping his garbage, dragging down most conversations by fighting the futile fights such as the nicknames for watches. Swimming upstream, if you will. He enjoys that.

He threatened us all years ago that he was quitting TRF because the community had changed at it was too much for him. What with people calling watches investments and all; he was fed up. But I guess he chickened out on quitting cold turkey. Tens of thousands of posts later, I don't know if he's contributed much of late besides the sarcasm.

Agree. Real spoiler for people

[rockysw]

I cant really compare the two (i had only tried MK1 once before it was replaced) but I can speak for MK2 on its own merit. The bezel color is awesome. The more I wear it the more I like it; it plays very well with light and changes from dark green to olive green and everything in between. The vibe is very different in low light vs bright light.

It is perhaps one of the only watch that is growing on me the more i wear it.

[Philadelphialawyer1]

Ashy Larry plus 1 for MK I

[drrd]

Originally Posted by TheDon2000

Padi enjoys coming into nearly every thread and dumping his garbage, dragging down most conversations by fighting the futile fights such as the nicknames for watches. Swimming upstream, if you will. He enjoys that.

He threatened us all years ago that he was quitting TRF because the community had changed at it was too much for him. What with people calling watches investments and all; he was fed up. But I guess he chickened out on quitting cold turkey. Tens of thousands of posts later, I don't know if he's contributed much of late besides the sarcasm.

It’s a forum. People share opinions.

If someone’s an outlier, as you say, acknowledge it or just move on.

No need to take an aggressive tone, make it personal or insinuate another member has less right to post here than anyone else.

[MplsMN]

Originally Posted by rockysw

I cant really compare the two (i had only tried MK1 once before it was replaced) but I can speak for MK2 on its own merit. The bezel color is awesome. The more I wear it the more I like it; it plays very well with light and changes from dark green to olive green and everything in between. The vibe is very different in low light vs bright light.

It is perhaps one of the only watch that is growing on me the more i wear it.

Thank you! :)

[Hollie_Rollie]

Originally Posted by MplsMN

Hi gang,

I have the Hulk, however, I want a Starbucks, too. Probably stupid I know, but I like the new 41mm case, movement etc. However, I want to get the version of green that is most dissimilar to my Hulk. It is very difficult to tell from the pictures if the Mark one Dial or the Mark two Dial is closest to the Hulk. Has anyone seen both in person and is able to verify? Thank you so much!

MK2


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[phonefool]

Another vote here for the MK2. My first Rolex was an OG Kermit and the MK2 shade of green satisfies the nostalgic aspect for me personally.

IMHO the MK1 (still a beautiful watch) is by no means rare enough or different enough (ie Hulk) to garner a premium in the foreseeable future.

[sinkholeninja]

MKII owner here…in Borat’s voice; ”I liiiiiike”