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View Poll Results: Does your 32xx movement seem to be 100% ok? | |||
Yes, no issues |
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1,045 | 69.90% |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) but timekeeping is still fine |
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62 | 4.15% |
No, amplitude is low (below 200) and timekeeping is off (>5 s/d) |
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388 | 25.95% |
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That's exactly what I've been thinking... in reality you'd have to think the posting of damage pictures and discussing of internal problems would be strictly forbidden by a company as secretive as Rolex. I sure hope if this did happen it was just a talking, and not a dismissal.
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My 32XX movement watch just took 77 winding turns with 2 fingers to be fully wound from zero reserve. So no longer can you say 30 turns will give you a fully wound watch.
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32xx movement problem poll and data thread
I thought it could be interesting to compare winding of the 32xx movements with my Sea-Dweller Ref. 1665 (caliber 1570) from the mid 1970's.
After a complete stop (for some weeks) and shaking the watch only a tiny bit, it started running immediately, without any movement winding. I kept in on my wrist for 1 hour and measured the 1570 caliber rates and amplitudes every 15 min. in dial up position. The results are as follows: After a tiny shake, no winding: - 0 min: 137 degr. Wearing on my wrist (w/o winding) for: - 15 min: + 9 s/d, 210 degr. - 30 min: + 9 s/d, 225 degr. - 45 min: + 9 s/d, 246 degr. - 60 min: + 11 s/d, 264 degr. After full winding: + 12 s/d, 292 degr. After 10 hours at rest: + 9 s/d, 278 degr. The beat error value was 0.3 ms (max). The power reserve is about 49 hours. |
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I had seen other report 40ish winds used to do it, and now it's in the 70s by a few accounts. So they've almost got it 1 wind per hour of power reserve which is kind of neat. On mine I have not been able to determine when it is fully wound. There is no difference in feel and even holding it up to my ear I don't hear a different sound at any point. I've gone past 80 winds and it just stays the same... was yours pretty obvious or was it a really subtle difference beyond 77?
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The difference in feel is quite obvious when the watch is fully wound.
At the point when it becomes fully wound the feel between the fingers goes from a totally smooth but solid resistance to a slightly scratchy resistance. You can feel it if you wind slowly.
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I checked my DJ41 using visual 360 degree revolutions of the crown and it required 40 from zero PR until could feel the spring slip.
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One could mark the crown with a pen (removable), count the 360 winding turns, and measure e.g. every 5 or 10 turns the amplitude, not difficult. Would anyone like me to do this for you?
PS: the answer how many turns from 0 to full PR is already given in #612, for a DJ41 it's 40 turns. |
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I have been asked by one of the participants in this thread which posts delivered data for various movement positions; here are the post numbers:
#11 saxo3 #153,154 Michael #197 saxo3 #276 Michael #347 Andad #466 saxo3 One comparison between 53 and 55 degrees lift angle is here: #474 saxo3 |
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So now all we have to do is to differentiate the results by the brand of testing device, cross referenced to how big your thumbs are, multiplied by the length of time since the last service over year of manufacture
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I get this mental image of Rolex technicians giggling at this thread while they eat their sandwiches. A bit of light entertainment.
‘Hey, you’ll never guess what those guys on TRF have come up with now’. |
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Are we really still doing this?
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I'm with you here.
A watch that noticeably loses enough time every month that's barely caught at a potential calendar change is no timepiece at all. 100% agreed about missed flight times especially in these days of super stacked connecting hustles. A $15 Timex would allow us to grab that last boarding lounge pint with less stress. ![]() Quote:
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All the watches are running within +-2 sec/day. No complaints.
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2/23 from complete stop wind @63 times until I felt a little resistant the watch was not touched until it stopped. Start 3:15 P.M. 2/24 9:43 A.M. -2 2/25 9:40 A.M. -2, 9:40 P.M. -1 2/26 9:20 A.M. -3 2/26 2:10 P.M. watch stopped. So I figure PR was @ 69 hours. Might have been more but I didn't want to wind it more than 63 times even though I know you can't over wind it. Just being careful. I was impressed that it stayed within specs without moving the watch. So, for now my 3235 is running good.. ![]() ![]()
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You understand correctly.
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