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8 April 2022, 06:34 AM | #61 |
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Didn’t have time for a shorter one lol
Love it and agree with many of your points See short and sweet ! |
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But see, when I got 'really serious' the 5035 was announced. Innovation, an annual calendar at 'reasonable' pricing at the time. Got one. Then soon-ish after came out the 5110, first of it's kind for PP in many years. Yup, added. To me, these were exciting times and Patek was on-point. Eventually, thanks to personal hard work and more hard work... someone at PP can look up my name and piecesssssssss, as I'd rather simply say there's no doubt their timepieces inspired me. Heck, I even had the gold-colored 5110 dealer wall clock! Yes it's metal, yes it weighs a lot, and yes it works. Changed the batteries myself at some point as we had it for years. Anywho, look, imho, and just maybe it's just me. I feel there's something more that could be done from PP, but isn't. Like stagnation as the world passes PP by. imho It 'doesn't help' that independents are truly 'killing it' (imho). Look, PP will never be MB&F. Nor FPJ. But when I look at Grand Seiko, why would I consider a Calatrava judging by what my eyes see???????? Hope my plea does not fall on deaf ears, but in the end there are so many great watchmakers today... even great guys like Torsti Laine is keeping busy. In fact, go look at what he's doing, the hours he invests, the craft, custom options he offers (yes, custom)... then see what he's asking for them. Sorry PP, maybe at some point we shall meet again. jmho as I see it. As always, am just a guy on the internet. In a weird way am glad PP is doing well, takes the 'customer stress' off of watchmakers that inspire me and are already booked for years ahead. All that extra currency has to go somewhere... until the next cycle begins. We've been there through two or three financial cycles. Enjoy the good times.
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The reality now is Patek sells every watch it manufactured without discount, whether it is Calatrava, Complications, GC, ladies or sports (I wish it is easier to get the green 5270P that I am requesting for). Their strategy is clearly working and they are never in a better position. Sure, some of us may prefer a handmade Patek and if there is a justifiable demand, there is no reason why they won't do it (Patek produces 50 rare handcrafts every year and these are all sold at W&W amongst thousands of applicants). Who knows, maybe Patek will produce low quantity/limited edition Duffour/Voutilainen type of watches with extensive manual guilloche and with 10 inward angles with the widest anglage in the future when the market asks for it.
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It's tiring hearing the words, "what's the point, not like anyone can get one". well, people do get them, and they used to sit in windows for long periods of time. The most expensive models are often available. If you ask for a grand complication that's north of $200k, chances of getting a watch within a year is very possible. But few are lining up to do this because they think it's not as good of an investment proposition and that there's no hurry to snatch it up before the next person. |
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The only way to buy Patek is via multiple Franck Muller, UN, Breguet, Blancpain, Hublot etc or jewellery (Emperor is good in that regard). |
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This was also the case with the salmon dial, but the demand evaporated over 18 months until they were available in AD's windows before the hype kicked in again with news it was being discontinued and the prices and demand firmed up. Timing is everything - best of luck.
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ALS, AP, FPJ, etc. In Geneva, Bucherer has been losing many brands during the last years. So when we love several brands, we need to waste a lot more time and money to build trust and history. And let not speak about our (my) self-estime when we need to demean (prostitu..?) to cave in to all the sell guys' demands for each brand... Jean-Claude Biver famously said that "Brands need to keep the customers frustrated." But we are now over that. Angry, pissed, furious, betrayed? Sad times for the real horology geeks like us... :( |
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I will never own another chrono again, totally useless complication in my eyes these days. Impressive engineering but no way I would spend money on one, let alone that much for one!
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Not too sure to be honest. I doubt the RRCC2 is sold out yet but AD might know their allocation already. Hope to work something out with my AD.
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They delivered a lot in such a short time (https://youtu.be/1OcTV4ZfHsM?t=465) The Micro studio hired Philippe Dufour to learn/use his technics and adapted the tools/wood to approach his finish quality. I wonder what they will be able to produce in the future. As a challenger, with the Japanese mentality and with all the traditional know-how in art (Ceramic, metal, wood, etc), they could surprise us in the future. NB: As a Swiss, I am only allowed to admire them anonymously on this forum. My friends would place me under forced guardianship for saying that. |
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Nice 5236P you got. |
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Not a big fan of this release. To me it is looks sort of whimsical for a 400K watch.
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RRCC2 is fully sold out and heavily oversubscribed. But as the price is likely going up from CHF90k to CHF120k, maybe some will be canceled…but I doubt it.
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Precisely why I hope to get one! Patek's sports watches have become a ridiculous status symbol, I love being able to wear their dress watches without anyone noticing or caring.
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Holy moly, may I ask about the rest of your collection if you are considering this piece? Any enamel / rare handcrafts / minute repeaters I can drool over ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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My AD is checking on this (Akrivia has not officially announced now many they are making)... Will update again.
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I asked for this watch... (already waiting on an application piece).
Best case - apply next year. Approved at end of 2023. Wait 18 months after that to get it. Its a full-on Geneva application piece unfortunately. |
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