Daytona doesn't equal 40mm, what else are they exaggerating?

[SubMarine]

Originally Posted by Seaswirl

Title of the thread was a bit inflammatory, no?

I don't think the title was inflammatory. I think this is a legitimate, interesting, and thoughtful discussion. Now that the OP has brought it up, I am actually curious which other watches are not as advertised.

[KellyM3]

Good thing you don't work in "aviation" or you would get a bunch of those planes crashed...so please stay with "avition" and away from aviation!

Originally Posted by Ken B

Thanks for the support. Look at it this way, imagine your watch was supposed to beat at 36k but in reality it only beat at 34.890. but all the gearing was designed around 36,000. Then the company said..But its close enough so we'll calll it 36000. never the less you end up with a watch running slow. Is this acceptable? Of course its not, we demand accuracy in our watches, so shouldn't we demand the same for the outside as we do the inside? Its $12,000 US Dollars for a SS daytona. Do you just shrug off the inaccuracy?

If it fits.. who really cares right? Then why doesn't Rolex go ahead and advertise it at 38.5 or 39? They advirtise others at 31, 36, 40, 41, 42, 44

Nope we won't see thier drawings but that really doesn't matter.

Why didn't I measure a Patek, an AP? because I don't own them, and it realy wouldn't matter on a Rolex forum anyway.

Funny, you think I need resolution, go back and reread the original post... I was mostly just wondering what other pieces were not the size they advertised. I was looking to chat on the matter. Someone kindly posted a link to a chart that I found interesting and enlightening.

And for the record, I worked in the Avition business and a few thousandths wrong on a caliper can kill an entire plane full of people. I know how to read and use a set of calipers. I own three sets. Also my calipers are all calibrated by a PMEL company.

I figured there might be another engineer type that has a Rolex that would like to join in measuring thier time piece... Looks like I was wrong.

[jt-]

Originally Posted by Presa canary

I don't get all the hurt feelings on this thread. The op was not bashing the daytona, not sure why all the supporters need to come to the daytonas defense. This site discusses correct lume, dial, bracelet, whether or not you can wear your watch here, while eating insert here... Whether or not to polish a tiny scratch out of a bracelet or return a watch to a watch maker for a spec of dust on a dial. Not sure why the op is getting it for bringing up the fact a watch that is listed to be 40mm, that wears small, is actually 1.5mm smaller. Sounds kinda relevant to trf, no?

Amen, thank you for posting this!

[DCgator]

Same thing when people say/believe that DSSD is 44mm (as does the Rolex website). It is not now nor was it ever 44mm. But it doesn't bother me at all that it measures less than 44mm, I actually prefer it to be under 44mm. Nuff said.

[Ken B]

Originally Posted by KellyM3

Good thing you don't work in "aviation" or you would get a bunch of those planes crashed...so please stay with "avition" and away from aviation!

Yea, fortunately I don't get paid for what I type on forums or I would care more about spelling errors. Since I don't get paid for what I type here I tend to be less worried about it. I get my point across.

[belligero]

Originally Posted by Ken B

[...]I figured there might be another engineer type that has a Rolex that would like to join in measuring their time piece... Looks like I was wrong.

Hi, I'm that engineer type. I measured it at 38.65 mm across the case and bezel at the start of 2013, but it's hardly ever been a secret that the 40 mm specification is only nominal.





On the 116520, the bezel and case are identical in diameter.

I bought the Daytona in full knowledge that it's slightly under 40 mm, and I wouldn't want it to be any larger, even on my 200 mm (7 7/8") wrist. I really don't see an issue here. Is changing the nominal diameter going to make the actual watch any different?

[Mystro]

When the font of a dial is scrutinized for minute changes and attention to detail is the norm. How does a misreported size discrepancy get a free pass and is not considered worth of conversation?????

Maybe this is why the Daytona has the reputation of wearing small for a 40mm watch over the Sub.
No wonder Paris can pull off a 40mm Daytona on her skinny wrist.

Originally Posted by Presa canary

I don't get all the hurt feelings on this thread. The op was not bashing the daytona, not sure why all the supporters need to come to the daytonas defense. This site discusses correct lume, dial, bracelet, whether or not you can wear your watch here, while eating insert here... Whether or not to polish a tiny scratch out of a bracelet or return a watch to a watch maker for a spec of dust on a dial. Not sure why the op is getting it for bringing up the fact a watch that is listed to be 40mm, that wears small, is actually 1.5mm smaller. Sounds kinda relevant to trf, no?

[breitlings]

The yachtmaster is actually bigger than claimed 40mm.

[SubMarine]

I have a nagging suspicion that the SubC is over 40MM... both date and non-date versions...

[Ken B]

For the record
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[Ken B]

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[Mystro]

This is good and a real world evaluation tool for upcoming owners.
I would like this for all brand and models of watches.

As it is said...... "Figures never lie and liars always figure."

Originally Posted by Ken B

For the record
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[SWISSAHOLICS]

Here is my feeling....and I may be wrong. Rolex timepieces like SubC and GMTs and have coin edge bezels....and coin edge bezels seems to protrude out than the Daytona flat bezels. You think the coin edge protrude makes a difference of 1.5mm making those models 40mm and causing the Daytona to look and wear smaller? The actual case size may be same but the bezels are causing the size difference?

[tkerrmd]

Im good with the size

[Ken B]

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

Im good with the size

Yes we know you are. But what is your wrist circumference?

[breitlings]

Originally Posted by Ken B

Yes we know you are. But what is your wrist circumference?

Hey Ken, The chronomat GMT you listed should be 43.7mm. 44mm is sort of a "class size".

[psv]

Originally Posted by Ken B

For the record
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Watches are measured by the case from 4 o'clock to 10 o'clock, but by the bezel. Not tat I think it will make any difference in this case (< yeah, a pun! :-)) but please try for all of us.

[The Joker]

Originally Posted by locutus49

This is like measuring your private parts. Some times you don't want to know specifics, and just go with a rough estimate, rounding up of course

Hope you're not gonna post a pic with a caliper, John.

[Ken B]

Originally Posted by psv

Watches are measured by the case from 4 o'clock to 10 o'clock, but by the bezel. Not tat I think it will make any difference in this case (< yeah, a pun! :-)) but please try for all of us.

I tried to but couldn't get it to stay for a quick photo and forcing it could scratch the case. Not going to do that. FWIW the measurement points are 4:30 - 10:30 since the pushers are in the way.

[psv]

Was it the same 38.5mm size though, Ken?

[tkerrmd]

Originally Posted by Ken B

Yes we know you are. But what is your wrist circumference?

6.5 inches, but I am also good with my DSSD and YMII

All fit and wear well and all very different. A lot has to do with bracelet sizing, but
I appreciate your attention to detail

[sturgeon123456]

Alright how about this.....the companies behind every canned, prepackaged or boxed food item we eat are allowed to misrepresent the items in said food for the purposes of protecting their secret recipe.......meaning that when you read the ingredients there is a very strong chance that you aren't eating what you think. I don't hear people complaining about this but 3% differential on a watch has turned into a huge debate.

Honestly if you have a problem with it don't buy it!

Plus this has been exhausted before........http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=275504 on here....so OP if you had questions a simple search would have sufficed.

Beating dead horses is fun though i guess.

Also this has been stated As said many times, SS, TT, YG on bracelet are 38.6mm - RG, WG, Pt, all leather models are 39.66mm"

I happen to have a yellow gold daytona so I guess I am lucky that mine is bigger than yours ;)

[fmc000]

Originally Posted by psv

Watches are measured by the case from 4 o'clock to 10 o'clock, but by the bezel. Not tat I think it will make any difference in this case (< yeah, a pun! :-)) but please try for all of us.

I did it. About 38.65mm.

[Ken B]

Originally Posted by psv

Was it the same 38.5mm size though, Ken?

I did measure it and it was 38.63. There is a little variable as its tough to get a perfect measurment of the outer case.

[donq]

Watch sizes for the most part seem to be rounded off by twos. (36mm,38mm,40mm,42mm) for whatever reason. I suspect it's like a shoe size. It gives you an approximate idea of the size of the thing. I'm sure Rolex knows the exact size of their watches, and suggesting that they are trying to engage in some sort of deception or dishonesty is a bit of a stretch. It's not like it's a measurement of a gallon of gas or an ounce of gold. The price is not related to this measurement.

[pacific17]

May 40mm with the crown? Some factor that in. But I am not surprised with this.

[Singslinger]

Originally Posted by locutus49

This is like measuring your private parts. Some times you don't want to know specifics, and just go with a rough estimate, rounding up of course

[Andad]

Originally Posted by tkerrmd

6.5 inches, but I am also good with my DSSD and YMII

All fit and wear well and all very different. A lot has to do with bracelet sizing, but
I appreciate your attention to detail

Hmmm.....6.5 inches.....that explains why your times are so slow Tommy.

BTW I have sellotape over the jaws on my digital calipers. It doesn't affect the zero and won't scratch the watch case.

[Old Expat Beast]

I wonder if the new Explorer is actually 40mm....and Rolex was hoping to appeal to the 36mm and 40mm crowds. Just a thought.

[Singslinger]

Although the size discrepancy isn't an issue for me - I buy based on how the watch looks on my wrist, irrespective of size - but I appreciate that to some buyers, having a watch that exactly matches its specs is important.