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Its an AD who sells various brands including FPj
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Hi sorry to hear that, Ive been several times to the NY boutique a had a great experience, but they've had personnel changes in the last few years, If you dont mind me asking which model did you bought?
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I am hoping to get on the list. Reading all this is not encouraging.
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I think it really depends on the pieces and the effort. I know someone who has only been on FP journe's waitlist 14 months ago, and he had received two allocations call.
This is just a non celebrity or social media influencer. Just a normal guy. Definitely possible but obviously this is the exception Sent from my SM-S918U using Tapatalk |
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I don't think he stopped by every month, but he definitely showed enthusiasm. I think it was fair to say a lot of effort was put in.
I think it's definitely possible to receive allocation for Journe from the boutique. Just need to be patient and persistent. You want to help your associate to make a case for you to Geneva. Sent from my SM-S918U using Tapatalk |
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In the US you need to impress Pierre or Laurent to get anything of substance. End of story. It can be done but it requires your most valuable commodity, your time.
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I plan on impressing them with feats of strength. Was going to visit the boutique today but horrific traffic stopped me.
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![]() Out of curiosity. What is the realistic expected time for an optimum? Has anyone received the optimum they requested in the last 2-3 years? Sent from my SM-S918U using Tapatalk |
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I used to be into journe before the hype. I had owned a few different models before they skyrocketed. I found that they needed service too quickly and now have been turned off by the need to jump through hoops for someone to take my money.
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Unless you are someone special I would imagine it could take up to 5 years or more at this point. Everyone’s scenario is different. If you live near the boutique, make nice, get a good connection with someone there and attend all the events you can make things happen sooner. If you’re a working stiff who’s going to put in the effort that got you a couple Pateks expect the wait. It goes without saying the optimum is unlikely to be your first Journe at this point. I don’t have any sort of insight so take everything I say with a grain of salt. I don’t have strong connections. My last Journe I bought secondhand because I don’t like to grovel.
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This is not an easy answer. And that's Journe. Understanding Journe makes you appreciate and respect how they do things.
I am on my second rep. I got passed over once Julian left the Miami boutique. Julian would send me tons of pictures of stock all the time via text. I’d be walking around with Journe Wood all day. All the most insane pieces. He kept me locked in on all the hottest Journe pieces. Some are highly excellent pieces like these; ![]() My transition rep moved to NYC. This is a boutique I have traditionally tried to avoid. I’m telling you, I don’t hate this boutique, but man, NYC can be a bit brutal. I have not been out to reconnect since moving to Seattle, but I’m hoping to hit the new London Boutique Apéritif while I’m in business next month and then hit NYC in early spring. This is kind of the way this works. Political, but be a fantastic person and let them get to know you. I’m supposed to get an allocation call out soon, but I am not holding my breath. It’s been three years on the CO waitlist. In anticipation of the possibility, I've written an essay. Not because I was asked but because I am serious and invested in Francois-Paul’s vision. I respect what they are trying to accomplish. Full vertical manufacturing integration. Genuine passion for the history of watchmaking. Innovative movement. Exceptionally high-quality finishing. An iconoclastic spirit. My CB took about two years in 2017. I spent 3-4 boutique visits and spent time with Pierre. I had juice then because I was making plenty of visits. Without cred, you really must hustle. This isn’t Patek, kids. They want patience. Engagement. Community. Real conversation. It’s old school—a real club of sorts. That's my story. One in. More to come. The sky is the limit. ![]() Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro |
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There is no way I would play any of these games for a watch. Especially 6 figures for something finished by a toddler with a nail file.
FPJ makes some interesting watches but they aren’t as good as what Gauthier or Kari V do. And neither of those two play games. Kari might have a long wait list but he isn’t going to fuck you around. You just pay a deposit and wait your turn. |
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I too am becoming tired of these boring, tedious games. 4 years ago I didn't mind them, when I initially requested the CO. I just thought that all watch brands operated this way since I was fairly new to the world of high horology.
I've recently shifted my attention towards more accessible indie brands like Greubel Forsey, Romain Gauthier, Urwerk and to some extent De Bethune. I never wanted to be part of a "family" or a "club", I just wanted to buy a watch I liked without overpaying on the secondary market. After being told that 2024 would be impossible and 2025 highly unlikely, I've kind of given up on FPJ. There is absolutely no way I'm sacrificing 8-10h to commute to my nearest boutique 4 times a year for 10 years just to be able to spend 200k (which will probably be the CO list price in 2030 if they keep up their ridiculous price increases). |
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If you were new to Patek, how come those watches did come easily?
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