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#61 |
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Exactly many buy hype to wear it,and also true today many wear the brand name not the watch.
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The difference is that feeling of superiority you get when wearing a Rolex. It doesn’t come with the Seiko.
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Superiority to others, lol?
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Well speaking for myself did not feel any superiority wearing my Rolex 16600 SD or my Citizen Aqualand 11.Both just then working tools underwater what they were designed for.But the Citizen watch gave far more dive information than the simple time lapse bezel on my SD.
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And the irony is these watches were meant to not even be serviced but just replaced if they died, except they don't seem to die. |
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Seiko 7S and 4R are absolute dogsh!t movements. I love Seiko for what is but it’s in a totally different world than Rolex
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But I had to do some work on it (remove movement to re-attach the date frame). Also, it runs about 5 mins fast per day. Will never part with it, of course. |
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We have a Rolex shop in the mall, and the salesman was gushing about the Grand Seiko.
I just took a look, and they don't really do anything for me. But then again, I wouldn't wear most Rolex watches either. I know the Rolex "sports" models are very popular, but to me they look ridiculous - I would never wear something like that. Give me a Day/Date, Datejust, Zephyr, Oyster perpetual ANY day!! Those are the Rolex I love. I also have a speedking which I love. |
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Rolex typically excels in terms of craftsmanship, materials, movement technology, and brand prestige. Seiko offers excellent value, reliability, and innovation at its respective price points, making it a popular choice.
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Swiss watches are basically jewelry that tell the time fairly accurately, this is a work of art that tells time precisely.
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The short version is that in general Rolex is twice as good at 15 times the price.l |
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Rolex quality transcend the quality of its parts. It’s the perfect synonym to Aristotle’s “the whole is greater than the sum of its parts” quote. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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The spring drive is very cool, but it is a hybrid solution. I have a hybrid watch - a Tag Heuer calibre S. Very cool chrono with a 99 year perpetual calendar. Would be a stunning achievement except… it relies on a quartz. |
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![]() Yes, it is somewhat of a hybrid, I have no issue with that, no 32xx problems to deal with. If Rolex had invented the Spring Drive the fanboys would be singing it’s praises.
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You can read all about it on Seikos webpage, it is clear and well written, I recommend it! https://www.grand-seiko.com/us-en/co...nt/springdrive |
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Still a great movement but not mechanically regulated. Mechanical vs mechanical, Rolex movements are superior. |
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![]() Maybe 3 times better put together in ways that are not necessarily obvious until one looks very closely at, then winds them, also set the time and really asses the bracelets and clasps. Perhaps there's an element of the classic case of diminishing returns at play here as the modern Rolex is turned out extrememly well throughout that earns a price premium. But the hype is a major factor in the modern era which contributes to the price ![]() Material specification is arguably better on the Rolex even if it's not appreciated right down to the Ceramic inset bushes hidden in there where the links are screwed together. Then there's the Rolex dealership/boutique experience at point of sale and most importantly the aftersales care through a world wide service network that Seiko probably can't ever come close to even with Grand Seiko. As mentioned by others. A Seiko is more along the lines of a good honest value proposition that has a certain element of planed obsolesence about it, but good value for money. Where as a Rolex is justifyably expected to be much more than a mere timepiece for the lifetime of the entire depth and breadth of the ownership experience. A faithful life companion that's very well supported by the mothership and there's a premium admission price to gain access to that type of club. Value for money is hard to gauge. |
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![]() A Spring drive is Quartz regulated regardless of the power source whether it be mechanical or a battery. A true mechanical watch has a mechanical escapement where the escape wheel is subjected to a locking and unlocking action. |
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But i wonder where Seiko are headed in terms of price ![]() Maybe i'm losing touch with regard to inflation but the price of Seiko and Grand Seiko are pushing the envelope a bit and it's not unlike all the other brands. Maybe i'm nearing my absolute fill of watches in my collection and starting to look at them through different eyes ![]() |
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Both of my Superlative Rolex watches run the worst out of any that came before them except my 5513 which was my gateway Rolex from way back in the day. My current watches are still within the Superlative tolerance, but the others that were COSC were much much better. But i'm still very happy with them. |
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Modern Rolex bracelets are awsome from the Oyster through to the President. |
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GS can be had for about $3,500 shipped from Japan
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don't mention brands............rather have Swiss made watch than Japanese made....reputation is well earned
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Didn’t they rig the whole COSC thing so that no non-Swiss watch maker could qualify?
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