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#61 |
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Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Canada
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Update....Spoke with eBay's high value claims dept & then the highest level of supervisor (So they claim, could not go higher).
Long story short they followed protocol and will not reverse the refund....apparently they never look at a sellers feedback in a case. With all that said I was however successful in demonstrating to the supervisor the scam at hand, she acknowledged to some extent that this should be looked into and it deserves review. The bad part is she claims she has nobody to send it directly to. I was told to report the buyer and use the "Abused Buyer Protection" reason. The Supervisor informed me this will go to a dept that does not take incoming calls and will be followed up on. Unfortunately there is no guarantee of success!!! I asked her to make sure she sends the case to her manager and to the Resolution Center Department inbox or whatever (I have worked in a call center for a huge Telecom company, I have a general understanding of how it works). I got a service request number of the current case, nothing for the one I just opened yet (Time will tell how far I can get with it) and the eBay San Jose headquarters mailing address so I can send a registered letter to the Fraud/Resolution Center. I will be calling up eBay twice a week until I have taken this scum bag down. Updates to come, stay tuned. |
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#62 |
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Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Canada
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Feel free to report the buyer if you do business on eBay.
As per eBay's automated response : We'll review your report with any other information we have, including reports from other sellers. Your report is confidential and won't be shared with the buyer. However, keep in mind that we won't be able to tell you about any specific action we take. I hope to change the last portion of this and make them take action and get my refund, regardless of the long road ahead. |
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https://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...ms=positive_30 Edit: Ah OK I see that's fb the scammer is leaving for others in order to manipulate the system and acquire refunds and merchandise for free. I'm surprised this buyer is not sanctioned by Ebay. No way anyone can be THAT unlucky. |
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#64 |
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Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: United States
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No part of me would ever want to sell over the 'bay.
I would rather deal with TRF members.
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#65 |
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Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Canada
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It's a devious scam indeed, but seriously I am no detective and I was able to figure it out in a few hours of digging!!!! Shame on eBay with all it's money and policies to let this fall under the radar.
These are high dollar scams, you think they would deal with them case by case, can"t be that many happening per month. I have been provocatively contacting all the Seller that have been scammed so we can have a dialogue on how he scammed us and hopefully present a united front to eBay. Last edited by A.K.; 15 November 2018 at 03:33 AM.. Reason: Corrected the word buyers to sellers as pointed out. |
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Location: Europe bound
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#67 |
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Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Canada
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Sorry about that, I meant Sellers.
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#68 |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Real Name: Justin S.
Location: Southeastern U.S.
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Oh My! How can Ebay not read bt the lines with this guy. It seems every other item he received he claimed was a fake :(
It's just despicable that he's allowed to continue this obvious scam |
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#69 |
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Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Canton
Posts: 4
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I sell a lot of coins on eBay and have always been afraid of the “empty box”. From now on I’m going to open the boxes in front of the post office employee to have them verify it’s contents and pack high end items with them there! Good luck!
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Earth
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If it were me, the last people I would want to show a bunch of high end items to in a box and then hand the box over to would be hourly employees at a UPS/Fed Ex/USPS outlet. So many things wrong with that picture IMO. Perhaps video you putting the items in the box and then insure it? OP, really sorry this happened and hope you have success changing Ebays policy. |
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Truly amazing a guy/girl like this can keep operating. Apparently Ebay must think they are the most unlucky people in the world. ![]() |
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#72 |
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Location: Europe bound
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Looking at the fb left this person has been running the scam on eBay for over 5 years. How is this person still able to operate on Ebay? This is exactly the reason why sellers are avoiding the site to sell anything of value. Shame on them
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#73 |
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Real Name: Jonny
Location: West Coast-Denver
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Wow that really stinks ! Hope all works out for you !
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#74 |
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Real Name: Eric
Location: AZ
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#76 |
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Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Las vegas
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I think the seller Protection is great, I sold some Gucci sneakers and after the tracking said the the item was delivered the next day the guy sent me a message asking me where they are. He opened a case and froze the money. so I called PayPal and they instantly gave me the money because the tracking said delivered. As long as the seller does everything right there should not be a problem. My concern would be them returning a fake watch
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#77 |
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Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: California
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If you were smart you would cancel his bids and make sure you note that you only accept bids from people with a significant level (TBD) of positive feedback.
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Europe bound
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Anyone shipping to someone with little to no history better make sure its signed delivery and fully insured. |
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#79 | |
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Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: California
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The package never arrived at my front door and no one in my home signed for anything. I opened a claim with EBay but since the USPS tracking said the item was delivered they found for the seller immediately. USPS requires a 7 day wait to open a claim with their insurance and since their employee said it was delivered, I was going to have to prove it was not. Fortunately I looked out into the "dog run" the next day and there on the inside of the gate on the ground was the package. False delivery information can screw a buyer is the lesson I learned. I require any valuable item to be delivered by FedEx or UPS from now on. |
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#80 |
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Join Date: Jul 2018
Real Name: Mark Patton
Location: Cayucos, CA
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I don't allow PayPal when I'm selling for this exact reason. I insist on a bank wire and I wait to make sure the wire "clears" before shipping the timepiece. I use PayPal all the time when I'm BUYING stuff, but I've heard so many horror stories like this. I've also heard of them "freezing" your account so you can't get your $$$ out! I am so sorry this happened to you. I hope it all works out.
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Location: Las vegas
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#82 |
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Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: United States
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OCPaladin I hope you contacted USPS so they could deal with that postal delivery person.
I wonder how he/she would feel if THAT type of 'service' happened to them.
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#83 |
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Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Canada
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Little update on this, I got pumped one day and reported the buyer via eBay's report a buyer page.
I went crazy and reported him for every reason they have, something like 20, and copy pasted the same text explaining his modus operandi. It worked!!!!! He is no longer a "Registered User" meaning eBay has suspended his account and is currently investigating. Next step it to hassle eBay to have my Money refunded from eBay. |
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#84 |
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Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Berkeley, ÇA
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Sorry to hear but please fight it with PayPal crooks like this guy should be behind bars
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#85 |
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Real Name: Eddie
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I think things may have been settled over the past few years.
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