16610LV - the MK VI dial - Newly discovered dial variance?

[Gaijin]

You can say that they are not rare and of course they are not vintage yet but when generally speaking Rolex prices continue to rise and NIB regular 16610s are selling here on this forum for $ 8,000 and GMT II Pepsis not NIB for $10,000 well you can call it hype but the bottom line the value is what the market will allow.

Whether we agree that they are rare or not the fact is there are people willing to pay a premium for them and someday if they want to sell them somebody else will pay them even more than they paid to get one.

[bondtoys]

Originally Posted by padi56

.Giving the choice between a LV,or a Red Sub/ SD

If I understand you correctly, the Red Sub is pretty desirable to you.

Wheren't the Red Subs also produced over several years, so in larger numbers?

And the Red Sub is different to standard 1680 in which detail? 0,0001ml of red ink on the dial?

Keeping this in mind,in comparison the 16610LV is massively different to a standard 16610:
Green bezel insert, larger lume plots and a wider minute hand.

So imo the 16610LV has all what is needed to become a very desirable watch in the future - just like the red Subs/SD are now

[Gaijin]

A NIB NOS 16610 non LV for sale here for $8,350. A NIB NOS Seadweller for $8,650. Are they rare? No. Are they discontinued. Yes. Will the prices continue to rise. For sure.

[George Spring]

i find this post very interesting and please do excuse my ignorance as im totaly clouless about rolex in general. i got all my limited knowledge here on trf and im being suck in everytime i read. anyway, in terms of rarity of LV which year is the one to get? the 2003?

[Gaijin]

Originally Posted by George Spring

i find this post very interesting and please do excuse my ignorance as im totaly clouless about rolex in general. i got all my limited knowledge here on trf and im being suck in everytime i read. anyway, in terms of rarity of LV which year is the one to get? the 2003?

Don't know if it is any more rare, just more desirable as it was the true 50th Anniversary Submariner. The Y or early Fs.

[George Spring]

Originally Posted by Gaijin

Don't know if it is any more rare, just more desirable as it was the true 50th Anniversary Submariner. The Y or early Fs.

thank you gaijin! i was in nagoya otsu kanon last month with wife and i was very excited because of how strong the dollar to a yen this year, however the price aint much difference when it comes to buying luxury goods. i thought i can get the early F serial 16610lv to a better deal, not really.

[Gaijin]

Originally Posted by George Spring

thank you gaijin! i was in nagoya otsu kanon last month with wife and i was very excited because of how strong the dollar to a yen this year, however the price aint much difference when it comes to buying luxury goods. i thought i can get the early F serial 16610lv to a better deal, not really.

You are welcome George.

Yep. 123.5 Yen to the Dollar today.

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by Gaijin

You can say that they are not rare and of course they are not vintage yet but when generally speaking Rolex prices continue to rise and NIB regular 16610s are selling here on this forum for $ 8,000 and GMT II Pepsis not NIB for $10,000 well you can call it hype but the bottom line the value is what the market will allow.

Whether we agree that they are rare or not the fact is there are people willing to pay a premium for them and someday if they want to sell them somebody else will pay them even more than they paid to get one.

Originally Posted by Gaijin

A NIB NOS 16610 non LV for sale here for $8,350. A NIB NOS Seadweller for $8,650. Are they rare? No. Are they discontinued. Yes. Will the prices continue to rise. For sure.

I agree with Gaijin here his observation

He separated nicely between rarity, desirability and market demand and hence the price..

[shou.biao.kuang]

Originally Posted by bondtoys

This time the modification was modest - by my standards

I only took a 116710LN dial, got rid of the green GMT MASTER II wording and made it in white and put it into a 16710.

No case modification, no added naughtiness

Subtle form of naughtiness??!!

Just curious, why a 116710LN dial on a 16710? The over-printing of the green GMT Master II word?

[bondtoys]

Only one reason:

Maxidial!!
Larger lume plots than the standard 16710 dial!

[Smartpup2001]

Hi guys,

After saw these 2 pics posted on the website by the owner who claimed this is original sub 50th Y9 Serie flat4 bezel. But I wonder it isn't Mark I dial as it should. Is this possible for Rolex to put this dial on Y9 Serie?

Anyone please enlighten me.

Appreciated for your answers.

[rollee1]

This looks like a true Mark I dial to me. Its possible on Y serial, perhaps the transition months; Rolex don't confirm exact year of production.

[shou.biao.kuang]

Neat! 😊

[shou.biao.kuang]

Hi,
Yes, Y serials 16610LV with MKII dials have been spotted on a few pieces. I've personally held one before with the MK II dial.

Though it's in the desirable Y serial range, the MKII is seen as somewhat "less" desirable compared to the MKI dial.

Just my 2-cents view ;-)

[Smartpup2001]

Hi guys,

I saw some pics of 16610LV Y Serie posted by the owner who claimed this is all original from Rolex factory. But I wonder it isn't Mark I dial as it should. Is this possible for Rolex put non Mark I dial on Y9 Serie?

Anyone please enlighten me.

Appreciated for your answers.

[Smartpup2001]

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[strafer_kid]

I passed on the opportunity to pick up a 16610lv Sub on a number of occasions through the years, as the insert just did not do it for me. Increasingly though I am being drawn more towards one......some very nice ones showing on this thread!

[shou.biao.kuang]

though this will greatly reduce the desirability of the Y-serial. I have personally seen one and on record 4 of them in all.

Hope this helps.

Sam

[DJL-73]

Interesting thread, I've owned my LV for 4 years now and until I read this I was unaware of all the different variations. After reading this and a little googling it would appear I have a MK VI dial (I think)

[yannis]

Hey all! Nice thread! Is this a MK VI dial guys?

[stylinleems]

I forget what the differences in the dials are. I read it once however, cannot find the post but my LV V-series above.

[fleabag]

Originally Posted by shou.biao.kuang

I would agree with SubKing on this. The lime green Flat 4 are the rarest of all the 16610LV's inserts, followed by the "normal (dark) green" Flat 4 insert. Find either one of these, make sure you hold on tight to it!

Heres my F serial Dec 2003 Flat 4



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[fleabag]

Originally Posted by fleabag

Heres my F serial Dec 2003 Flat 4



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Heres my F serial Dec 2003 Flat 4



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[PhilK]

Originally Posted by shou.biao.kuang

Hey folks,

A short update on this thread.

Since I last posted the MK VI dial as purportedly the last dial variant known of the 16610LV aka Submariner 50th anniversary model, I have received several photos and comments sent to my email on this dial variant. Recently, a forumer (let’s call him AJ since he specifically asked me not to mention his name) was kind enough to snap a few pictures of his precious find to lend a hand in identifying the MK VI dial found only on the “AN” series and as replacement dial thus far.

What is interesting about this piece is the ultra rare MK VI dial that is found on his “AN” series 16610LV, which IMHO as mentioned in the OP, is probably rarer than the MK I dial! What makes this piece even more interesting is the warranty card was dated December 2014, a good 3 – 4 years after production was discontinued!

Do note that the warranty card spots the new style Rolex warranty card where Rolex started issuing around one plus years ago. And this set came with it! Another rarity!!

According to AJ, he bought this piece from an AD in Singapore in December 2014 but the AD told him that they got this BNIB piece since late 2013 (!) and has been sitting in their store before he purchased it.

There you have it all…. In term of rarity, it’s a

1. “AN” series 16610LV,
2. Brand New In Box set,
3. MK VI dial variant
4. and lastly the new style Rolex warranty card !

Pictures will be uploaded in the next post. Stay tuned…

Have just found this post..... I purchased my LV brand new in the UK in Dec 2010. It still has its seals intact and has a MK VI dial on a random serial number.

[PhilK]

Originally Posted by PhilK

Have just found this post..... I purchased my LV brand new in the UK in Dec 2010. It still has its seals intact and has a MK VI dial on a random serial number.

I thought I had uploaded a photo but it failed. Photo now below.

[switi]

what dial is this on my LV

[Amex4711]

Originally Posted by switi

what dial is this on my LV

Are you really sure, that this is an original dial ?
The "300m" looks strange.

[switi]

yes it is an original. had my watch serviced at RSC. complete rolex markings at the back of the dial. maxi dial green lume.

[garyk]

Originally Posted by switi

yes it is an original. had my watch serviced at RSC. complete rolex markings at the back of the dial. maxi dial green lume.

The 300 m is definitely a little out there. Might be a one off?

[switi]

saw the same dial of a kermit being sold at ebay https://www.ebay.ph/itm/Rolex-Submar...gAAOSwR8pbv1oJ and this is definitely another variant