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dannyp · 14 July 2021, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by HiBoost

I walked into an AD two hours before close and was told they have nothing. Then got home and followed up with a somewhat long email talking about my history with watches, attesting that I was not a flipper, etc. The very next morning the AD called and said "they were able to get" the bluesy that I wanted. It's the only AD for hundreds of miles. Highly unlikely the thing happened to arrive from Rolex that next morning. Clearly they had it previously.

But, I have also been told that Rolex corporate is aware of when an AD actually sells a watch and therefore the AD will not get their next allocation piece until the previous one has sold. So an AD wouldn't be able to stockpile 20 LVs in their safe because Rolex would have stopped sending subsequent ones when the first one(s) didn't sell. IF this is true I would say it is a positive thing for the consumer because it does give some incentive to ADs to move product versus hoarding in hopes that a whale will walk through the door.

Also possible that it’s a multi-location AD and they got from another store? Or, again, simply hasn’t finished going down list of customers from my “list 2” and decided to sell to you instead?

Ringhio · 17 July 2021, 04:46 PM

I pulled the trigger… and I had a very interesting conversation with the associate.
Will share some details soon.
At the moment I can say that it’s an amazing piece!

Pandos · 17 July 2021, 07:26 PM

Congrats, great watch!

Benzsiam · 17 July 2021, 08:10 PM

Congrats to OP!

It's such an entertaining thread.

Giangos · 17 July 2021, 08:28 PM

Such a waste of breath this thread.
At least there is a pic at the end of all of that waffle.
Congrats OP on a nice watch.

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scooba · 17 July 2021, 11:07 PM

Well done OP

Seams the worlds expert on dealer protocol has finally got bored and left the post

Another My SA told me so it’s true and won’t be told otherwise 😂

TimepieceRPP · 17 July 2021, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by thecrownprince

People need to stop spreading these dumb stories about ADs having pieces in the safe just waiting for the right customers. My friend is a Rolex SA and I’ve been told repeatedly by other insider people as well:

Legitimate AD don’t stockpile subs, daytonas, gmt or whatever you’re dreaming of. When the watches come, they get allocated to a customer. If that customer passes they move onto the next and in today’s climate it’s usually sold within 24 hrs.

They do not get new pieces of that particular model unless they already sold their current inventory (and activate the warranty). I cannot speak for shady AD but legitimate ADs will sell any desirable pieces immediately and most of them are sold within 24 hrs of them landing at the store. If it’s in the safe for more than 24hrs it’s already sold and paid for and they’re only waiting for the customer to pick up.

So stop spreading speculation, lies, or nonsense about ADs being a gigantic vault of 5x daytona and 10x subs just waiting for the right customer

they’re in the business to sell. If you don’t know, don’t spread false information.

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Ringhio · 20 July 2021, 12:13 AM

Just to report on my experience, after an interesting chat with the SA.

1) they had the watch in the vault, on the day I inquired about it and I filled a card with my data and my interest.
2) The SA vouched for me with the boutique director that granted the allocation, this happened in less than 1 week from my request.
3) The SA clearly told me that she decided to "invest" in me and this is to keep our relation going. They trust me as a good customer and she expects that for future jewels, timepieces (not limited to Rolex) I will go back to their boutique.
4) When I picked up my Sub there was another customer close by, he was chatting with the director about different topics, and you could tell they had a very friendly relationship. He got a diamond ring for his wife, in front of me.
Then 5 minutes after one of the young SA approached him asking if he needed anything to drink, he said "actually there is something I'd like".
SA said "let me check the vault!".
While they were sizing my Sub, I took a look and a white face was on the director's desk.
5) Bottom like: They do have some inventory. Lists are real, but they don't necessarily work as you would expect, priority is given to collectors that are perceived as "good customers/good investments", being honest and direct trying to build a personal relations pays off.

This is my experience and my view. Might not work for everybody...

dannyp · 20 July 2021, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ringhio

Just to report on my experience, after an interesting chat with the SA.

1) they had the watch in the vault, on the day I inquired about it and I filled a card with my data and my interest.
2) The SA vouched for me with the boutique director that granted the allocation, this happened in less than 1 week from my request.
3) The SA clearly told me that she decided to "invest" in me and this is to keep our relation going. They trust me as a good customer and she expects that for future jewels, timepieces (not limited to Rolex) I will go back to their boutique.
4) When I picked up my Sub there was another customer close by, he was chatting with the director about different topics, and you could tell they had a very friendly relationship. He got a diamond ring for his wife, in front of me.
Then 5 minutes after one of the young SA approached him asking if he needed anything to drink, he said "actually there is something I'd like".
SA said "let me check the vault!".
While they were sizing my Sub, I took a look and a white face was on the director's desk.
5) Bottom like: They do have some inventory. Lists are real, but they don't necessarily work as you would expect, priority is given to collectors that are perceived as "good customers/good investments", being honest and direct trying to build a personal relations pays off.

This is my experience and my view. Might not work for everybody...

Stop!! Stop right there!!

I know you feel incredibly lucky, practically invincible even, having gotten that Sub, and I totally understand.

But that picture worries me: No matter how lucky you feel, I guarantee, 100%, that you cannot, in fact, fly. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DO SO!!!! Please!!!!

Ringhio · 20 July 2021, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dannyp

Stop!! Stop right there!!

I know you feel incredibly lucky, practically invincible even, having gotten that Sub, and I totally understand.

But that picture worries me: No matter how lucky you feel, I guarantee, 100%, that you cannot, in fact, fly. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO DO SO!!!! Please!!!!

Too late man, I'm texting while falling

Onequik135i · 20 July 2021, 12:43 AM

Congrats on your new sub.

whiskyrolex · 20 July 2021, 12:45 AM

Looks great, congrats! No Date is the way to go.

dannyp · 20 July 2021, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ringhio

Too late man, I'm texting while falling

At least the Sub should survive.

dannyp · 20 July 2021, 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Ringhio

4) When I picked up my Sub there was another customer close by, he was chatting with the director about different topics, and you could tell they had a very friendly relationship. He got a diamond ring for his wife, in front of me.
Then 5 minutes after one of the young SA approached him asking if he needed anything to drink, he said "actually there is something I'd like".
SA said "let me check the vault!".
While they were sizing my Sub, I took a look and a white face was on the director's desk.

Also, some other key takeaways:

1. I want to have just absolute stupid amounts of money.

2. Transacting for a Daytona at an AD now sounds a lot like asking someone if they'd like to buy drugs in a nightclub...

Ringhio · 20 July 2021, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by dannyp

Also, some other key takeaways:

2. Transacting for a Daytona at an AD now sounds a lot like asking someone if they'd like to buy drugs in a nightclub...

I agree.

While I was chatting with the associate she flipped the watch facing her when few guys entered the boutique asking about news on the list...
She was like, "you can understand we don't want to disappoint them".

I mean, unfortunately this is the market. There are hard to get pieces, some are easier some are almost impossible.
I'm on "the list" for a batman, but now I know that I will have to get at least a ring or a two tone DJ to make it happen. They will not allocate it to me, even if they have it available in the vault.
The message is very clear. This is the game, at the moment.

dannyp · 20 July 2021, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Ringhio

I agree.

While I was chatting with the associate she flipped the watch facing her when few guys entered the boutique asking about news on the list...
She was like, "you can understand we don't want to disappoint them".

I mean, unfortunately this is the market. There are hard to get pieces, some are easier some are almost impossible.
I'm on "the list" for a batman, but now I know that I will have to get at least a ring or a two tone DJ to make it happen. They will not allocate it to me, even if they have it available in the vault.
The message is very clear. This is the game, at the moment.

Ever see The Sting? Pretty sure you witnessed the "setup" phase of it. Between the guy who "happened" to be there buying the ring, and the Daytona that "happened" to be in the safe, right when you "happened" to be there...

Ringhio · 20 July 2021, 03:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dannyp

Ever see The Sting? Pretty sure you witnessed the "setup" phase of it. Between the guy who "happened" to be there buying the ring, and the Daytona that "happened" to be in the safe, right when you "happened" to be there...

Totally possible! I guess they got me and started laughing when I left the boutique

Everbillz · 20 July 2021, 04:02 AM

Congrats, look forward to pictures

dannyp · 20 July 2021, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Ringhio

Totally possible! I guess they got me and started laughing when I left the boutique

Not laughing... Yet... At this point, you just won your first fake horse race

RealMadrid1988 · 20 July 2021, 06:07 AM

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Is the forum a place to call names now?

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You’re literally a child.

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Originally Posted by thecrownprince

You clearly don’t know how this works. It’s like talking to a child that doesn’t understand.

I’m gonna assume you’re naive ways will be clarified

Also...

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Since you’re new to this

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This community is becoming very toxic.

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Join Date: Apr 2021

The jokes just write themselves with this one.

Rori · 20 July 2021, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ringhio

I pulled the trigger… and I had a very interesting conversation with the associate.
Will share some details soon.
At the moment I can say that it’s an amazing piece!

Congrats on this stunning watch.
In support your theory about AD inventory and I assure you you’ll get your gmt “if you asked for one@ sooner than you expect.

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liberalclown · 20 July 2021, 08:04 AM

Congrats!

I personally believe you were lucky, especially in NYC. I worked with 2 of the biggest ADs here in the city and they showed me their inventory systems when I requested some watches, they had absolute no inventory, yet they have some in their Florida chain. These are businesses to make money and Rolex send them new inventory once they sold the previous shipment. I saw with my own eyes that they only have TTs in the vault, so maybe somebody decided to pickup your sub and then skipped due to a reason, or maybe it was the shipment day for that AD, but it is very unlikely for the Sub to stay in the safe for more than 24hrs.

liberalclown · 20 July 2021, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by RealMadrid1988

Also...

The jokes just write themselves with this one.

rmlovett1 · 20 July 2021, 08:11 AM

Congrats on the Sub!

Ringhio · 20 July 2021, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by liberalclown

Congrats!

I personally believe you were lucky, especially in NYC. I worked with 2 of the biggest ADs here in the city and they showed me their inventory systems when I requested some watches, they had absolute no inventory, yet they have some in their Florida chain. These are businesses to make money and Rolex send them new inventory once they sold the previous shipment. I saw with my own eyes that they only have TTs in the vault, so maybe somebody decided to pickup your sub and then skipped due to a reason, or maybe it was the shipment day for that AD, but it is very unlikely for the Sub to stay in the safe for more than 24hrs.

I totally agree NY is a different beast, that’s why I didn’t get the sub here!
I got it while traveling abroad ;)

Boaters · 20 July 2021, 08:32 AM

Congratulations in advance..

Ringhio · 20 July 2021, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Rori

Congrats on this stunning watch.
In support your theory about AD inventory and I assure you you’ll get your gmt “if you asked for one@ sooner than you expect.

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Thanks! I hope they will surprise me, again. But I’m a bit skeptical… I think it’s my turn to show some love and get something “not that hot” from them.
Anyway, if they allocate the Batman, I’ll take it!

ks58 · 20 July 2021, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ringhio

Thanks! I hope they will surprise me, again. But I’m a bit skeptical… I think it’s my turn to show some love and get something “not that hot” from them.
Anyway, if they allocate the Batman, I’ll take it!

So what's the plan? Will you be buying something else from the boutique to get the Batman? or Are you just gonna hope to get another allocation?

Ringhio · 20 July 2021, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ks58

So what's the plan? Will you be buying something else from the boutique to get the Batman? or Are you just gonna hope to get another allocation?

My wife is thinking about a DJ, so we will get it from them when the time comes.
Also, I might need to get some jewelry during the holiday season, and the boutique will be my first choice.
Of course I will not buy anything I don’t want or I don’t like, as that would be insane.

Cigars&Watches · 20 July 2021, 01:13 PM

Congrats OP and thanks for the update. I also would agree with you on AD inventory from my own experience and experience of friends… let’s use some common sense...an AD has millions and millions of $$ tied up in inventory at any given time.. having several SS pieces in a safe at any given time is absolutely inconsequential to them… a good business would keep some pieces for the big spenders when they come in (more often than we think).. this would be the way I would run things..

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liberalclown "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Real Name: Jan Location: Earth Posts: 381	Congrats! I personally believe you were lucky, especially in NYC. I worked with 2 of the biggest ADs here in the city and they showed me their inventory systems when I requested some watches, they had absolute no inventory, yet they have some in their Florida chain. These are businesses to make money and Rolex send them new inventory once they sold the previous shipment. I saw with my own eyes that they only have TTs in the vault, so maybe somebody decided to pickup your sub and then skipped due to a reason, or maybe it was the shipment day for that AD, but it is very unlikely for the Sub to stay in the safe for more than 24hrs.

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Cigars&Watches "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Canada Watch: DSSD, CHNR, SUB Posts: 1,681	Congrats OP and thanks for the update. I also would agree with you on AD inventory from my own experience and experience of friends… let’s use some common sense...an AD has millions and millions of $$ tied up in inventory at any given time.. having several SS pieces in a safe at any given time is absolutely inconsequential to them… a good business would keep some pieces for the big spenders when they come in (more often than we think).. this would be the way I would run things..

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