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Well that's a terrible looking bracelet conditions wise for a SS.
Assuming it's real and assuming it hasn't exposed to any harmful substances, it's probably a bad batch of steel. |
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Patek Philippe 1579 chronograph circa 1954
Sooo miss the days of Patek true quality. ![]()
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On the older version, the screw holes appear to go almost to the edge of each link. Is it possible that it was proving difficult to construct with such tight margins, or there was concern that wear over time would potentially damage the links, given how thin the area around the tube was? Or perhaps I'm just looking for a justification that my speculation about bracelet thickness was the reason since I suggested that prior to knowing it previously had screws ![]() Quote:
I certainly wouldn't expect PP to scrap such a piece either, and always wondered how such things were handled. |
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I just checked the watch again and since I cleaned it the rust has not come back yet, but it’s only been a few days. I can confirm the marks are not food, drink or from storage. I am still self-conscious wearing the watch and when I’m not it’s in the case. I do not want the watch replaced or the bracelet re-polished/finished so soon after getting it. I may consider a replacement bracelet (if offered) provided it doesn’t show as someone on here pointed out. The main worry is should a new 5711 start rusting so soon, and will it come back in the future. The AD has asked to see the watch but there is nothing to see now, so not sure what they can do. |
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No, your new watch should not have rusted so soon... Once the rust reappears, ask for a replacement.
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I'm at a loss to understand threads like these... "please help me etc"
Jeez - you've bought a new PP from an AD right? Take it back to them and get the part/watch repaired/replaced. Easy. More generally, I'm fascinated by how precious people are about their 5711s. This isn't a dress watch - it's meant to be a daily beater. Mine is scuffed, scratched and worn in the pool, the sea, wherever. That's the point.... |
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On the second, remember: For some veteran PP collectors, a 5711 is the most rugged, least expensive, watch in the rotation, while for others, newer to the brand, it's the absolute nicest watch they'll ever own. |
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Don't think anyone should be needing to wipe 5711 with WD40 to prevent it from rusting. |
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Mine has even braved the jacuzzi after plenty of drink ![]() Nice dint on the bezel to remind me of that fun. ![]() |
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Really would like to hear what the selling dealer has to say
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Wow, that is the first time I have heard that happening.
I had both a blue and white 5711. The white I kept the longest and never even had the "thought" this could be an issue. I am also very interested in what the dealer has to say about this. |
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I don’t recall asking the forum if I should return the watch or ask for a refund. As for precious, I’m surprised you never used the same old “it’s just a watch” line from the Rolex forum. ![]() This is not a “please help me etc” thread. I started the thread as I thought other members would genuinely be interested to see and discuss the current build quality of modern steel PP, and to exchange thoughts on rust prevention on steel watches in general.This forum used to be a place where members shared experiences, idea’s and had discussions. Oh, I miss the pre-2017 days before the SS shortage. I would have liked to provide an update to the forum once I had a reply from Patek Philippe and the AD, but as other members feel the same it would be best if the mods close this thread instead. ![]() |
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looks like you've been eating too much spaghettios while wearing the watch
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I think it d be a shame to close it before we hear the suggested resolution from PP, I m very much interested personally and technically. TY
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As for using pins versus proper screws, that's soooo un-Patek-like and proves it's time to go F.P Journe, ALS, etc guys.
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What was it resting on or in while it was off your wrist? This doesn’t just happen.
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Agreed. I think just about everyone on here would like to see how Patek handles this. That just should not be happening to your watch.
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I suppose in this case PP should replace the bracelet and the OP (and PP) should have documentation of the issue in case it comes back later on, especially on the watch head.
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If this is legit rust, this is absolutely insane. I would be taking this back to my AD ASAP and would be pissed.
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I can also see some have an interest in the outcome, I don't epect a reply though after all my £23,000 purchase is probably not important to them. I will update the thread good or bad if or when I hear from them. I also mentioned my 5167A which broke the wrong side of the 2 year warranty period, hopefully that may help to get the rust looked at. I'm reluctant to get it fixed as I read they just strip it down, clean it and put it back together so it will probably just stop winding again. Sometime's I wish I just stuck with Rolex and Omega they have always been no trouble. ![]() |
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When you say you don’t want to get a 5167A repaired, can you explain as I don’t understand. Update: I see you posted back in August, piece was 4 years old not 2 years. Why did you not get it fixed last year? https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=621556 |
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In my experience, Patek has resolved several issues I have brought to them better than expected. I would give them the time they need to review (things can move slowly with Patek.) Rolex on the other hand could not have a worse track record if they tried, RSC has fixed one issue and created another ireperable problem; has charged me for a repair they did NOT complete; has not stood by their product and for the most part has been careless and carefree.
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Yes the warranty was for 2-years, it had very very light use for less than 3 years, then it was cafefully stored undisturbedand and broke soon after I started wearing it in around year 4. So it broke itself somtime between 3 and 4ish years in storage Strange thing is I looked at it again on Saturday wound it and it seems to be running fine now. Before it would stop after about 10 mins with 40+ turns of the crown. its been running fine for 4 days and keeping good time on anf off the wrist, very strange and unexplained. |
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Perhaps it is a location variance. In nyc the Patek service center consistently does the right thing. Rolex consistently has failed.
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