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Old 12 April 2023, 09:55 PM   #61
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I like both but the OP looks like his hand is gigantic?!
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Old 12 April 2023, 09:57 PM   #62
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Here’s the 36 next to the 39




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So cute

The most important thing is to wear watches (and clothes) that fit IMO. We are lucky the crown has given us these options.
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Old 12 April 2023, 10:24 PM   #63
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Man, the Explorer crowd is a tough crowd to please
Now there is a true statement.
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Old 12 April 2023, 10:47 PM   #64
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I did. Perhaps reread mine?

I was addressing your "insecurity" comment - which you specifically left out of your comment above.

Who said that 36mm was standard for men for 75 years in the same paragraph as saying its a ladies size?

I must have missed that example of poor critical reasoning?

Certainly not me (and certainly not Rolex)
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Old 12 April 2023, 10:51 PM   #65
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This thread is hilarious.
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Old 12 April 2023, 11:06 PM   #66
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Hold on a minte with that thought.

Is it so hard to believe that for many its just an aesthetic preference? Nothing to do with what constitutes a "man's watch". Yes there are a few who correlate size with "manliness", but there are many more who don't.

My ideal size is probably 39mm. Which is why I my BB38, 16600 and Daytona feel perfect, to me, on my wrist. Nothing to do with insecurity

I wouldn't wear the current 36mm Explorer because it looks small on me.

You also realise that "many great men have worn a 36 over the past 75+ years" becase 36 was the only or largest size available at that time?

Not becase they had a choice of sizes and thought that 40mm was too big
You conveniently ignore the many ongoing strident posts over many threads relating 36mm case size to questionable manhood. In fact there is one between our posts. If the long established standard of 36mm was indeed an objective measure of manhood as these posts imply then by that logic millions and millions of men once considered admirable were indeed pussies.

“Fashion changes, style never changes.” —Coco Chanel

Larger watches have been the fashion of recent decades. Like all fashion trends the size of watch cases will cycle back to the established standard and in fact it has already started. Like all fashion trends some people will carry on with the style that links them to a point in time through their preference. Like exaggerated shoulder pads or men in capri pants or harness boots these sartorial choices will forever link a person to a brief window in time while time marches forward and leaves them behind.
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Old 12 April 2023, 11:19 PM   #67
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Old 13 April 2023, 06:06 AM   #68
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Anyone got a caliper reading with the new 40mm yet? Really curious how different it is to the 39.
I’m also curious to see a side by side shot.
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Old 13 April 2023, 07:31 AM   #69
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I’m also curious to see a side by side shot.
I'm willing to bet that the new 40 isn't actually a 40 and pretty close to the of the old 39s measurements - if the DJ/OP 41's actual measurements have anything to say about it!
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Old 13 April 2023, 08:16 AM   #70
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Man people love to argue this. Amazing people make it about manhood based on the size of a watch...

Wear what you like. I don't give a damn what famous people have worn. If on my wrist the watch looks like I am wearing a quarter on a strap then it is too small for me. For me, maybe not you or your friend or your second cousin but for me.

Does that make the 36 a bad watch, nope. Is the 40 superior because it is larger, nope.

People here love to say that Rolex knows exactly what they are doing. Well, they must have data on the 40 being necessary in their lineup just like they have with the 36.
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Old 13 April 2023, 09:25 AM   #71
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The Explorer is an incredible watch. Whatever size you choose, 36mm, 39mm or 40mm, you're getting a fabulous storied timepiece. If I could, I’d own all three. But I own the 36mm because I like the size of this watch; IMO, it's the perfect size for this type of watch. But as the saying goes opinions are like arseholes, everyone has them and most stink :)


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Man, you have to be a major Explorer connoisseur to want all 3. I could definitely see someone wanting the 214270 and the newer 36mm. But the 39 and 40 seem way too similar.
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Old 13 April 2023, 09:26 AM   #72
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I'm willing to bet that the new 40 isn't actually a 40 and pretty close to the of the old 39s measurements - if the DJ/OP 41's actual measurements have anything to say about it!
+1. I bet it's 39.5mm
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Old 13 April 2023, 09:29 AM   #73
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I'm quite size agnostic. Own a Cartier Santos Medium, BB36, and just picked up a BB54, I like the way they all look on my wrist. I also wear and love my Explorer II. I just go by how I like it on wrist, and I've been a fan of everything from 34 to 45mm depending on the watch.

Having said that, I think I solidly prefer the look of the 40mm. Don't know why, I just do.
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Old 13 April 2023, 09:31 AM   #74
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40mm looks a good fit
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Old 13 April 2023, 10:36 AM   #75
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40 looks better proportioned than I thought it would to be honest. I had tossed around a pre owned 39 for a bit, but I think I would prefer this instead. I'd be over the moon with either this or an AK.

I've never tried on a 36 explorer before, but every other 36mm I've tried on wears too small for me. My wife even tells me that my 39mm SBGM221 is too small for me, but I think it may be because she wants to wear it.
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Old 13 April 2023, 10:45 AM   #76
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I'm willing to bet that the new 40 isn't actually a 40 and pretty close to the of the old 39s measurements - if the DJ/OP 41's actual measurements have anything to say about it!
Maybe a slight variation in the lug to lug, but I have a feeling that you are right.
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Old 13 April 2023, 11:37 AM   #77
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Maybe a slight variation in the lug to lug, but I have a feeling that you are right.
I agree that it'll definitely vary in some dimensions vs the 39 but it looks better proportioned, to my eyes.
I longed for the return of the 36 and was disappointed when it really measured ~35 with such an aggressive bracelet taper. By no means am I adverse to smaller watches, in the end I chose a DJ 126200. I'm actually excited that the Explorer is now bigger again, I respect the historic 36mm size but for my collection I personally want a sporty field watch to be bigger than my 36mm dressier watch!
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Old 13 April 2023, 11:55 AM   #78
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Arguing about watch size is like arguing about shoe sizes…

Both are great…if you have under a 6.75” wrist I’d definitely suggest trying the 36 though.
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Old 13 April 2023, 12:12 PM   #79
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I prefer the 36. Photo from Worn and Wound.


Thanks for the pic!! I’ve had the 214270 I think 3 times. 2 for sure. Absolutely love love love the dial and flat bezel. Awesome watch. But as time passed I couldn’t get over the size. So if the 39 is to small for “me” the 36 IS definitely out. I’m just hoping the new 40 is enough to make a difference. I doubt it. 39 vs 40?

But I did text my S A day one. We shall see.
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Old 13 April 2023, 12:16 PM   #80
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The Explorer is an incredible watch. Whatever size you choose, 36mm, 39mm or 40mm, you're getting a fabulous storied timepiece. If I could, I’d own all three. But I own the 36mm because I like the size of this watch; IMO, it's the perfect size for this type of watch. But as the saying goes opinions are like arseholes, everyone has them and most stink :)


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Huge Explorer fan myself. But not 3 though I’ve considered it. Love my black 216570. It was my first new A D purchase over 11 years ago.
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Old 13 April 2023, 12:25 PM   #81
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The femininity of the 36 has nothing to do with the size in and of itself, there's something about the proportions to me that make it read this way. I think the same thing happens in all design. Some things look more masculine, feminine, androgynous, etc., and often its intentional and not meant to convey "only a female can buy/enjoy this" or "you are not a man's man if you buy/enjoy this".
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Old 13 April 2023, 12:53 PM   #82
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Here is some guy named Ernest Hemingway looking plenty manly with his dainty 31mm bubbleback. I have always thought it is the way people carry themselves that make them look masculine or feminine amongst many other things, more so than the size of their watch.
True. Though in situations like these I prefer to reference Eisenhower, as he demonstrated his masculinity by defeating the Nazis instead of hitting women.
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Old 13 April 2023, 12:57 PM   #83
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Anything to avoid picking up a barbell I guess
On the contrary, this is why it's hard to find jeans that aren't overly tight and legging-like . And I'll go as low as 34mm for watches...
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Old 13 April 2023, 01:23 PM   #84
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Man, the Explorer crowd is a tough crowd to please


Not for the men in the crowd. 40 all the way.






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Old 13 April 2023, 01:38 PM   #85
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I prefer the 36. Photo from Worn and Wound.

It's just wrong in 40mm. At 39mm it already wore like a plate. It's simply a 36mm watch.
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I think it's time for another view of the perfection of the 39mm version!

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Old 13 April 2023, 03:42 PM   #87
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Wish Rolex made all their watches in multiple sizes.
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Old 13 April 2023, 04:02 PM   #88
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Wish Rolex made all their watches in multiple sizes.

Yeah so we can have a thread like this about every model.
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The 36 (new model) is tiny, and the 36 and 40 both have the 32XX movement.

Based on this, I vote for the 39mm Mk II. In addition, the position of the "EXPLORER" looks more balanced and more importantly, the 39 also has a 31XX movement.
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Old 13 April 2023, 07:13 PM   #90
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Allow me to facilitate your analysis: you are misinterpreting my comments as being directed at you.
Not at all.

Its clear your comments were directed at the forum generally. But it is, by its very nature a discussion forum which facilitates a response by any member.

I'd ask again, who said that 36mm was standard for men for 75 years in the same paragraph as saying its a ladies size?
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