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4 December 2017, 10:12 PM | #61 |
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Citing a chart that places Hublot in the same league as AP as gospel... Could one get any more inflammatory in an AP board than that?
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It’s in the chart in black and white, I don’t know how much clearer we can be. Hublot right up there in the HH class with Lange and Patek
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I don't think I've ever seen Faberge or Boucheron mentioned on this forum before so that's something at least, the Jeweller's Association will be pleased they are infiltrating us. The Bagmen will also be pleased to be right there with Rolex and Omega too.
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5 December 2017, 01:44 AM | #64 | |
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this is about the most worked up I have ever seen you You really hate charts |
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5 December 2017, 01:55 AM | #65 |
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Bumps a one year old thread...
Pulls out a chart... What’s next? Is the world flat? Or wait... the Mayans said the world would end in 2012? Both are completely different watches other than they share a “blue” type of dial. Both works of art and worth having in the collection. |
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He had a permit issue and had to cancel, so now the issue is still unresolved i guess. |
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5 December 2017, 02:10 AM | #67 | |
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Richard Mille classed as exceptional above AP and Patek? Not sure that’s accurate at all. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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5 December 2017, 03:41 AM | #68 |
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5 December 2017, 06:11 AM | #69 | |
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If you are interested in hear more about the ranking system and how it was created check out Bill’s video. Pretty interesting watch. https://youtu.be/C5E3o74AGtw Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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5 December 2017, 06:32 AM | #70 |
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i'm looking to get the CB, to add alongside my jumbo.
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5 December 2017, 07:28 AM | #71 |
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I was torn between both the 15202 and the CB. I got the CB. No regrets. Most accurate watch I own, and the dial and case back is mesmerizing. I do have a Royal Oak I purchased new (not the 15202) and it has been a disappointment. Several problems with the 3120 caliber which I know is the the same caliber as the 15202. However, I am not sure what is going on with AP quality control.
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5 December 2017, 07:36 AM | #73 | |
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However, do note the 15202 does not have the 3120; it has the 2121 which was originally designed by JLC and used by AP, VC and also PP. |
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I’ve heard the 2121 can be a bit finicky as well. They’ve basically taken the 2120 movement and modernized it... tried to update it. It was always a finicky movement because of its incredible engineering and thinness (it is truly a JLC masterpiece and now a Audemars grail movement). It’s just expensive to service and is not super durable. BTW, the CB has been known to have a little issue with mainspring twisting on the post when fully unwound so don’t jostle it around much when it’s wound down. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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yeah i know, i was not referring to them i was referring to some of the others on the list rated fairly highly for craftsmanship and being hand made and not for technical and complicated watchmaking
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Yes I know. I intended to say "does not have the same caliber". I should proof read before posting. The fingers don't always reflect what is in the mind.. Thanks for calling it out. I am a BIG fan of JLC, it is the brand that got me interested in horology.
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AP for sure
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9 December 2017, 07:24 AM | #79 |
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15202ST for sure.
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AP for me
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Get both! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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You're not serious right? That chart is supposed to be accepted as the standard in horology?
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15202 all the way
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29 June 2023, 12:55 AM | #86 |
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I found this old thread very interesting. I wonder if some people's conclusions or the general consensus has changed over time. (I have both watches and they're among my favorites.)
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29 June 2023, 01:32 AM | #88 |
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16202, and that's coming from a Journe fan. These 2 watches are not comparable...
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29 June 2023, 04:42 AM | #89 |
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I have both , love them both, but the CB gets more time on my wrist.
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29 June 2023, 07:11 AM | #90 |
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As an only watch I'd go 15202 as I tend to get more wear out of bracelet watches.
Based on where I am though I'd go CB as it would add a lot more in terms of diversity and versatility to my small set of watches. |
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